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Fight Breaks Out Between South Carolina and Clemson Football Players

Posted on 11/20/2004 12:11:04 PM PST by Big Steve

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To: conservativeinferno

Why is that so hard for many freepers to understand?


101 posted on 11/20/2004 7:44:07 PM PST by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: Law is not justice but process
I graduated Clemson in 1987 and went on to Duke for grad school. I remembered Clemson as a place where education was the primary goal of the university and Duke as a place where political correctness was the primary goal of the university. Sadly, the stories I hear from today's Clemson students sound more like Duke 1988 than like the Clemson I knew and loved. I fear the PC cancer is spreading (I dread to think what Duke must be like now).

I agree with you - PC is everywhere, but it is not as bad in some places as in others. Clemson has more PC influence than it did when I was there in the mid - 70's of course, but there are schools where it is much worse. I did not particularly like the book my son was required to read along with the rest of the freshman class, but he was able to see it for what it was....we homeschool with a very strong emphasis on worldviews and the previaling mindset of the world compared with a Biblical worldview. He also dual-enrolled at the local community college where he had to endure a tremendous amount of PC, which is why he was so pleasantly surprised at Clemson. I suppose if he were in a liberal arts major, he might have a different opinion.

As for Duke, we visited there in 2000. My two oldest kids found the posters, signs, advertisements on the boards in the halls both entertaining and appalling. Very liberal PC.

102 posted on 11/20/2004 8:13:47 PM PST by aberaussie
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To: Big Steve

I just got back from the game. It was unreal. Thats the first bench clearing brawl Ive seen at a football game. While both teams are certainly guilty of fighting with each other, I only saw Carolina players fighting with police. I saw one USC player hit and throw down a cop in the east endzone.

I am amazed there were no ejections, or arrests for that matter. This is always been a very big rivalry, but this was crazy.


103 posted on 11/20/2004 9:06:12 PM PST by Tatze (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
Thanks for the ping, SC Swamp Fox, but let's get real. Who really cares about the brawl at Clemson today except the PC crowd? Probably 20 of the 22 players on the field at the time the brawl occurred would have been either (a) unemployed, (b) working at Wendy's, or (c) in Iraq fighting and killing "evil" with the potential of getting his head blown off/cut off, if he didn't have an athletic scholorship. Yes, I know the benches emptied and there were more than 22 players on the field.

Don't I like football? I love football, and am a rabid Tiger fan with 2 Clemson grads in my household!

104 posted on 11/20/2004 9:15:12 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
A lot of people do care about the brawl (or any brawl) as each time it happens society inches one step closer to a scenario where we solve all issues with violence. As for the game, I watched most of it and at the beginning the announcers were praisingn the SEC officials crew as "letting them play" but you could see they needed to take control. One of these days I would like to see these refs do what the soccer refs sometimes do, stop play, pull both teams to the middle of the field, and lay the law down. From that point on, you toss every single mouthoff.
Several years ago, two SC high school teams had a brawl in Rock Hill, SC. Several players were banned for the year and both teams were ineligible for post season. With the money at stake, that won't happen with the NCAA. But then again, these are two 6-5 teams so missing out on the Humanitarian bowl would not be a big sacrifice.
105 posted on 11/21/2004 4:39:31 AM PST by doosee (Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.)
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To: Big Steve
Anybody in the state of SOuth Carolina see the fight between South Carolina and Clemson football players?

Don't just leave us sitting here in our jammies, tell us who won!

Was Don King there?

106 posted on 11/21/2004 4:47:12 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Michigan's last flock of penguins left for the west coast in 1823 never to be heard from again.)
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To: Sandylapper
two SC high school teams had a brawl in Rock Hill, SC

The QB of the suspended Marlboro Cty High School team, Syvelle Newton.

107 posted on 11/21/2004 5:05:27 AM PST by doosee (Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.)
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To: aberaussie

"My husband graduated there with an engineering degree 26 years ago and has done very well. Our son started there this fall in engineering. He was pleasantly surprised at how conservative the campus is."

I also have a son at Clemson, an engineering student as well. He is from the midwest and loves most of what he has encountered.



108 posted on 11/21/2004 5:16:48 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
What kind of engineering? My son is in computer engineering last I heard...he also is interested in electrical.

Does your son live in the honors dorm?

109 posted on 11/21/2004 9:06:09 AM PST by aberaussie
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To: aberaussie

"What kind of engineering?"

electrical

"My son is in computer engineering last I heard...he also is interested in electrical.
Does your son live in the honors dorm?"


Yes.


110 posted on 11/21/2004 12:31:01 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: tazman3
Yep. Starting it was bad, Why did the Carolina players come to block the run down the hill that Clemson has done as a tradition for 50 years.

And why were all of the cops being beat up by USC players. Yep. Bunch of thugs, and Lou has no control of them. They just came to run their mouths, taunt, and forgot to play football.

Again!

111 posted on 11/21/2004 5:03:17 PM PST by mumbo (Rules are for people who don't like to make decisions)
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To: doosee

Are you one of those PC soccer moms? I doubt seriously if Seville Newton or many of the other players had soccer moms who teach "good sportsmanship". They probably come from parents who teach "don't take no crap off nobody even if you just think it's crap", which apparently is what our current administration believes. One doesn't care whether one is playing "nice" in a war, does one? I always heard that "all's fair in love and war". The Carolina/Clemson game is an on-going "war", IMO.


112 posted on 11/21/2004 5:08:20 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: mumbo

Yep. Starting it was bad, Why did the Carolina players come to block the run down the hill that Clemson has done as a tradition for 50 years.
And why were all of the cops being beat up by USC players. Yep. Bunch of thugs, and Lou has no control of them. They just came to run their mouths, taunt, and forgot to play football.

Again!


Not that it matters at this point, but at the start of the brawl, 2 clemson players had the USC quarterback down and beating on him, the rest is history, so I wouldn't limit the "thugs" to only one team.


113 posted on 11/22/2004 5:07:57 PM PST by Ethyl (when)
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To: Ethyl
Let me give you a little history lesson on Mr. Newton, the student-athlete. On National signing day, Syvelle Newton came to the podium to announce his choice between SC and Clemson. He put on a Clemson ball cap, and then took it off, stomped on it, and put on a USC hat.

He has a few more ass-whippings in store for him, especially since he likes to start fights. See post #107. It is a pattern with him. And you can hit the QB on every play! Newton and Summers have both been promised the moon by Holtz, and spoiled rotten. Combine that with a less-than-stellar attitude to begin with (Summers was a daddy in high school), and you get guys who want to act like tough guys until it bites them.

I'd like to grab a couple of Tigers and teach them some manners myself.

114 posted on 11/23/2004 12:11:30 PM PST by mumbo (Rules are for people who don't like to make decisions)
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