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Obesity surgery can cure diabetes, study finds
MSNBC News ^ | October 12, 2004

Posted on 11/20/2004 3:02:18 PM PST by The Loan Arranger

High blood pressure and other ills also improved by operation. Obesity surgery helps patients do more than shed weight — it often cures their diabetes, high blood pressure and high cholesterol, researchers say.

The research — an analysis of 136 studies — found that such operations are more than cosmetic. They appear to alter the patient’s body chemistry itself and eliminate or relieve conditions that can lead to heart attacks, strokes and kidney failure.

The analysis was funded by a Johnson & Johnson Co. subsidiary that develops and markets surgical instruments, including staplers for obesity surgery. But the results echo what many doctors have reported seeing.

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KEYWORDS: cholesterol; diabetes; heartattack; hypertension; kidneyfailure; obesity; sleepapnea; stroke
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These are significant health problems in our country. If this study is to be believed, this surgery will be a God-send for many people.
1 posted on 11/20/2004 3:02:18 PM PST by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger

Isn't "obesity surgery" a procedure that creates a smaller stomach? If so, that would create a lesser intake of food, hence the weight loss.

If that is the case, the lesser intake of food would also mean less intake of the food that contribute to diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.

Sorry, I'm skeptical of this.


2 posted on 11/20/2004 3:04:59 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: The Loan Arranger

My 12 year old daughter is being tested for Early Onset Obesity MC4R. She has been obese since two weeks of age. No real turnoff valve...always hungry. I had been her turnoff valve for most of her life. When I had to leave for work and could not monitor she gained over 100 pounds. It is tragic to see such an active and beautiful child incapacitated by obesity.

BTW we have no tv, no snacks, whole foods, we were vegans but now eat meat, and lead active lives. she cannot join in anymore.

If it is the MC4R she may join an experimental drug grouop or have surgery.


3 posted on 11/20/2004 3:13:05 PM PST by mlmr (Rubbing it in Leftist faces since 1994)
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To: EggsAckley
Oh, the surgery works. But it is major surgery, and can also have a laundry list of unintended consequences. Heaven forbid folks discipline themselves to eat right and exercise. Sigh.
4 posted on 11/20/2004 3:16:19 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: EggsAckley
This week "Science News" reported that vitamin D has an impact on Type II diabetes. Seems that as we age we actually need more Vitamin D, and with all the ultraviolet scare news promulgated by the government and Algore ("blind sheep in Patagonia") folks aren't spending enough time in the sun to get those higher levels.

They are also avoiding milk to avoid difficulties with milk sugar. Frightening lectures about mercury in fish scare people away from that source of Vitamin D.

The researchers estimated that getting the right level of Vitamin D into older people, their ability to both produce and metabolize insulin could be increased 60%, which is a higher level possible with the use of the new diabetes medications.

All I have to do to improve my insulin levels and metabolize that insulin is do a series of gut-bending exercises for 15 minutes or so. This article focuses on precisely that part of the body. There's probably something to it.

5 posted on 11/20/2004 3:19:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: The Loan Arranger

You are aware that some of the people who do these study consider anyone who is thicker than skin and bones to be obese.


6 posted on 11/20/2004 3:20:18 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: muawiyah
All I have to do to improve my insulin levels and metabolize that insulin is do a series of gut-bending exercises for 15 minutes or so. This article focuses on precisely that part of the body. There's probably something to it.

Wonder if that's related to why pear-shaped folks do better than the apple-shaped? Less weight around the gut.

7 posted on 11/20/2004 3:21:27 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: EggsAckley
According to the article:

"That may be because such operations alter the intestinal hormones"

Not because a person eats less.

8 posted on 11/20/2004 3:26:32 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: EggsAckley
Isn't "obesity surgery" a procedure that creates a smaller stomach? If so, that would create a lesser intake of food, hence the weight loss.

If that is the case, the lesser intake of food would also mean less intake of the food that contribute to diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.


IOW, I'll stick to working out and watching what I eat.
9 posted on 11/20/2004 3:28:42 PM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: The Loan Arranger

It's probably more likely that the dietary restraints that are required post-surgery restrict the level of carbs and sugars that can be taken in. The effect is the same as a diabetic going on a reasonably low-carb diet, blood sugar can be maintained at normal or near-normal levels. (I know, because that is how I regulate my blood sugar)


10 posted on 11/20/2004 3:30:26 PM PST by RJS1950 (The rats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: mlmr
My 12 year old daughter is being tested for Early Onset Obesity MC4R. She has been obese since two weeks of age. No real turnoff valve...always hungry. I had been her turnoff valve for most of her life. When I had to leave for work and could not monitor she gained over 100 pounds. It is tragic to see such an active and beautiful child incapacitated by obesity.

Was she ever involved in any athletic activity?
11 posted on 11/20/2004 3:33:32 PM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: EggsAckley

While gastric bypass does make the patients smaller, the real benefit of the surgery is the bypass of the small intestine from the stomach - known as malabsorbtion.

This bypass of the small intestine has two effects. One, it limits the amount of calories (and unfortunately nutrients) the body can absorb, it also prevents the patient from eating very high sugar/high carb foods in large quantities at all.

Btw, in most procedures, the stomach does stretch over time until the person can eat a small/normal size meal. Think the actual size of a serving per package directions.


12 posted on 11/20/2004 3:34:49 PM PST by Brytani ("Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work - Edison)
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To: Freepdonia

I agree. I was considering this operation, and when I looked into it and decided it was not for me. It did kick my butt though to lose the weight the old fashioned way. I lost 120 pounds and believe me, it's going to stay off!!

I know there are people who medically need this surgery, but I think it's being abused. I meet lots of diabetics at the place where I work (where I also lost my weight) who are trying to have a healthier life style. It's so rewarding to eventually hear some of them say, "My doctor said I'm not a diabetic anymore!"


13 posted on 11/20/2004 3:35:00 PM PST by Mrs.O'Strategery
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To: The Loan Arranger
Sounds right. Insulin is the fat-storage hormone. It takes a molecule of glucose to the cell for use as energy. In the presence of too much insulin, the cells shut down their receptors, sort of like changing or removing the lock. The insulin (the "key") has no way to open the receptor and deposit its load of glucose/glycogen. When this happens, it is sent to a fat storage area, usually the abdomen, buttocks, or arms, and is stored, along with the "sugar," for further use. Obese body fat is a tremendous user of insulin. The pancreas often fails when required to supply more and more insulin to overcome the resistant cell receptors. This is the cause of Type II or "Adult Onset" diabetes.

This being the case, I can see where removing large amounts of body fat would be a giant step in the right direction. Removing as much sugar and insulin as possible, along with the resultant fat, would be a great boon to individuals with sugar-metabolism problems.

14 posted on 11/20/2004 3:38:49 PM PST by redhead ("Gee, Ricky. I'm sorry your mom blew up...")
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To: Freepdonia

Was she ever involved in any athletic activity?

Formally in Track,Field (she holds the shotput record in our state for nine year olds) , ballet, soccer, basketball, plus the usual sledding bikeing swinging and hiking that all other kids do.

She had to stop becasue her growing legs could not handle the weight.


15 posted on 11/20/2004 3:39:33 PM PST by mlmr (Rubbing it in Leftist faces since 1994)
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To: The Loan Arranger
I can't believe I'm doing this:

GetFlatBack

16 posted on 11/20/2004 3:45:32 PM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: The Loan Arranger
I once supervised a small crew whose duties included testing emergency power generators at the hospital where we worked.

The person who performed these inspections typically came in around 4:00 A.M. to do the testing before the day's real business started.

One morning I came to work at 8:00A.M. and found the duty mechanic in my office waiting on me; he told me that one of the smaller units wouldn't shut down after the test and throwing the proper switches.

I jumped in the station Jeep with him and went to the site to find this 4 cylinder diesel engine idling away with all of the controls in the "Off" position; I switched it back to run and it came back up to speed and registered voltage output.

I then cycled it back to "Standby" and watched while the voltmeter dropped, the engine came down to low idle and just chugged along.

I finally concluded that the fuel-injection pump wasn't shutting off and ran back to the shop and grabbed a tire repair "boot" (a 10" diameter piece of rubber) carried it back to the engine room and placed it directly over the throat of the air intake.

The engine, now deprived of oxygen, dutifully died.

I called the electricians back out to repair the control wiring and went about my regular day.

17 posted on 11/20/2004 3:49:51 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: mlmr
Formally in Track,Field (she holds the shotput record in our state for nine year olds) , ballet, soccer, basketball, plus the usual sledding bikeing swinging and hiking that all other kids do.

She was very active at one time. Is her metabolism way off, besides eating too much when you're not there? If she was obese as a baby and you were monitoring her, it sounds like she might be a good candidate for the stomach surgery. Putting a padlock on the refrigerator doesn't sound like it's going to be the answer for your daughter.
18 posted on 11/20/2004 3:54:58 PM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: mewzilla

I work with a woman who's sister almost died after the surgery...another woman had it, lost weight, but had bizarre TIAs that kept her off work for 6 weeks.


19 posted on 11/20/2004 3:58:44 PM PST by CAPTAIN PHOTON
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To: Freepdonia

We will see the results of the MC4R testing and if it is the culprit, then the clinical trials of the new meds...if appropriate. If surgery is the better option we will do it.


20 posted on 11/20/2004 3:59:46 PM PST by mlmr (Rubbing it in Leftist faces since 1994)
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