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Why Liberals STILL Don't Get It
CNSNews.com ^ | NOVEMBER 22, 2004 | RON MARR

Posted on 11/23/2004 6:08:23 PM PST by CHARLITE

In the chic salons of Manhattan and the trendy bistros of Los Angeles they are saying they same thing. "How could Bush have won?" ponder the elitist vanguard of the left-wing status quo. "I don't know a single person who voted for him."

On the networks -- 12 hours after the rest of us realized that John Kerry had fallen -- Dan Rather scribbles permutations on colored Post-It notes in an attempt to prove to himself that his chosen man could still take the day.

Surfing about, I noted talking heads all agog over how they missed it. In the aftermath of the election, they behave with professorial demeanor, wondering how their certainty of a Democratic victory went up in flames.

"What we don't realize is that there's a huge segment of the country that doesn't think like us," states one well-coifed anchor, his voice dripping with derision and condescension. "We can never understand the people who like their guns and their pick-up trucks and their NASCAR."

That comment, as much as anything else, explains why George Bush was re-elected with the largest percentage of the popular vote since 1968.

The pretty TV man was stating that those such as he - the elites, the sophisticates -- can never comprehend the lowly mental horsepower of folk who shop at Wal-Mart, belong to a bowling league, sometimes attend church and still believe that the United States is far superior to the socialist enclaves of Europe.

To the TV anchor, working stiffs and Joe Six-Packs are the "great unwashed." They don't read the New York Times, utter sly chuckles at the cartoons in the New Yorker or spend $400 bucks on a pair of shoes. They like a beer and a steak, read the funny pages on Sunday morning and think a day of chips and NFL is a dandy ol' time.

Such being the case, they are not worthy of respect.

The election of 2004 was not just a case of Bush versus Kerry. It was a contest of city versus country, blue collar versus white collar, arrogant elitist versus good ol' boy.

It was class warfare in the deepest of trenches, but even after being whipped, dipped and hung out to dry, the high and mighty of the left STILL don't get it. They cannot comprehend how and why they were whomped by a bunch of hicks.

Thus, allow me to enlighten. You see, the people whom America's Brahmins view as yokels and slack-jaws didn't just vote against Kerry the man. They voted against what Kerry stood for.

They voted against arrogant, pseudo-intellectuals who try and mandate how the imbecilic members of the middle-class caste should live, act and think. They voted against pompous, urban know-it-alls who feel they have carte blanche to halt farming, ranching, logging and mining in an attempt to save an endangered species of toad.

They voted against those who want to take their guns...and not just the ones they hunt with. They voted against the snobs, the egocentric, the self-righteous.

They voted against the jerks...and they did it brilliantly.

The "average" citizen of American voted against those whom John Kerry labeled the "heart and soul" of America. They voted against the traitorous pig Michael Moore and that Whoopity Goldberg woman. They voted against Bill Maher, Barbra Streisand, Alec Baldwin, Cameron Diaz, Robin Williams, Cher, Rosie O'Donnell and the whole damn cast of "Friends."

They voted against "celebrities" who were rude and crude, those who profaned George Bush and his family with the most foul of commentary at each and every opportunity.

The election wasn't just Bush versus Kerry. It was "Us versus Them."

Oh...there were issues aplenty. And on each one the families from Flyover Country took a stance diametrically opposed to the upper crust.

The latter view Europe as a Socialist utopia which all should strive to emulate. The former view it as a place with bad plumbing and body odor. The latter are enamored with, and a desire to appease, anyone who claims a lineage harboring at least one duke, baron or Third World, French-speaking exporter of bat guano. The former couldn't give a damn what Europe thinks, wouldn't trust Kofi Annan to wash their truck.

Hell, they want to resign from the U.N., boot out the tenants and convert the real estate into a Bass Pro Shop.

When it comes to war, the "normal" American believes in big bombs, not big words. They want country music and armor piercing bullets, whereas the intelligentsia wants to practice diplomacy, hum Kumbaya and surrender.

The NASCAR crowd intrinsically realizes Saddam was a terrorist, understands Iraq is part of the bigger war on terror. In case you forgot (and judging by the voting totals, many in the Northeast did just that) they'll remind you the radical Muslims attacked us...not vice versa.

The residents of our two distinct Americas reside within the confines of different economies and social strata. It's not that Flyover Folk disagree with the values of the hoity-toity, it's more that they believe the pampered and feckless are bereft of values, their ethical compass spinning like a narcissistic top.

They see the elites as merely paying lip service to that which is convenient and faddish, proving to the neighbors they sup heartily on the ideological flavor of the week, feeling nothing but a need to impress.

The commoners? They are more traditional. Quite a lot are religious, but many are content to make a living, watch the tube and catch a long nap on Saturday. The "God, guns and guts" contingent is often poor but happy. The cocktail, Commies and Cadillac club is often rich and in therapy.

And the Limousine Liberals STILL don't get it. They think the Bush victory is an anomaly, even though they've been humiliated twice in four years.

They will lose again and again, firm in the resolve that good breeding always wins the day. The clay-eaters, rubes and mouth-breathers of "Flyover Country" will never surpass them, they think, for they lack class, culture and social contacts.

As for the aforementioned po' white trash...they are laughing. They don't have much cash. They don't have health insurance. They don't take cruises. They don't have designer labels.

All they've got is the Senate, the House, the Oval Office and a grin that spreads from ear to ear.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beerdrinkers; elections04; elites; house; kerrydefeat; liberals; losers; nascar; senate; whitetrash

1 posted on 11/23/2004 6:08:23 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

As much as I agree with the "they still don't get it" rant... I'm a little tired myself of everybody - including people who are supposedly defending the red states - lumping us all together as good ol' unsophisticated folk. Yes, many of us are. But I wear a white collar. I have an MBA. I'm not a big fan of NASCAR. I do go to church, but could care less if anyone else does or not. Just as the "NASCAR Nation" stereotype misses 95% of "Red Staters", I believe the "Elitist Liberal" stereotype misses most "Blue Staters." We just get to see much, much more of their more vocal, obnoxious idiots. Much of this is getting a bit tiresome already.


2 posted on 11/23/2004 6:15:08 PM PST by SugarLandTexas (I demand a recount... only because the first count was so much fun.)
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To: CHARLITE
That comment, as much as anything else, explains why George Bush was re-elected with the largest percentage of the popular vote since 1968.

An outright majority is always nice, but the writer must mean 1988, when Bush the Elder pounded Mike "Snoopy" Dukakis by 54-46 with a huge electoral win. Reagan over Mondale was something like 59-41 in 1984.
3 posted on 11/23/2004 6:19:30 PM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: CHARLITE
"What we don't realize is that there's a huge segment of the country that doesn't think like us," states one well-coifed anchor, his voice dripping with derision and condescension

But that's DIVERSITY!! Isn't it great? Aren't you glad there's DIFFERENCES OF OPINION and aren't you TOLERANT of those DIFFERENCES?

I guess not, you freakin' liberal hypocrite.

4 posted on 11/23/2004 6:19:31 PM PST by Lizavetta (Modern liberalism: Where everyone must look different but think the same.)
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To: CHARLITE

They can't get the NASCAR, guns and pickups? Well, I can't understand people who enjoy $30 hamburgers, $200 haircuts, maniacal cabdrivers and living stacked on top of each other in 700-foot piles;)


5 posted on 11/23/2004 6:21:12 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: CHARLITE

LOL cute. No they don't get it, but hey lets not let them in on all of it! We don't want them to get it, the more they don't the longer we have control. And let's face it, they aren't fit to be in control!

Some of make a decent wage, and aren't the rubes they think we are, heck some of us even live in blue states (though we have nothing in common with elites) Wherever we live, whatever kind of money we have, manners, character, morals, yes, even values, basic knowing right from wrong separates us.


7 posted on 11/23/2004 6:26:19 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: SugarLandTexas
You sound alot like me, I got an MBA (interestly enough, one of my teachers was also Bush's former professor). I'm not a Nascar fan, and I'm growing annoyed with this red state sterotype.

The Blue State sterotype is also overplayed, since there is a wide variety of lunatics who make up the left from conspiracy minded idiots who think secret societies are in charge to people who have inferiority complexes and owerwhelming envy at everyone who has a nickle more then them, to elitists at universities.

A warning for conservatives, let the left become a carnicture of itself and show its true colors so that it repulses America more and more, but lets not follow there example, as Napolean once said...

"When your enemy is making a mistake, do not be impolite and interrupt them".

8 posted on 11/23/2004 6:29:18 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Lizavetta

It's only diversity if the left says it's diversity. If you don't think the same way they do, you are a redneck hick living in Jesus Land, and a minority person is only a good kind of minority person when they follow the party line and are NOT conservative and DON'T support Republicans.

Hypocrisy indeed! Large font, triple bold, flashing red hypocrisy.


9 posted on 11/23/2004 6:31:37 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Tagline go away, where tagline? He-e-e-e-e-e-re tagline.......)
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To: Sonny M

Well said. I don't have an MBA but a decent education and a rewarding job. I live in a bluest of the blue state. It's not easy, and it does emphasize the differnces big time. I don't think there is any danger of the elites getting it, they don't want to get it. It's easier to say they don't than to admit that what they are selling, so many aren't buying.


10 posted on 11/23/2004 6:33:49 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: Baynative
They'll keep voting for it, and keep trying their darndest to desensitize all of us and our kids, until (so they think) WE get it. From their point of view!
11 posted on 11/23/2004 6:39:16 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: SugarLandTexas
As much as I agree with the "they still don't get it" rant... I'm a little tired myself of everybody - including people who are supposedly defending the red states - lumping us all together as good ol' unsophisticated folk. Yes, many of us are. But I wear a white collar. I have an MBA. I'm not a big fan of NASCAR. I do go to church, but could care less if anyone else does or not. Just as the "NASCAR Nation" stereotype misses 95% of "Red Staters", I believe the "Elitist Liberal" stereotype misses most "Blue Staters." We just get to see much, much more of their more vocal, obnoxious idiots. Much of this is getting a bit tiresome already.

Agreed! I'm highly edumacated myself and I'm also wondering where the simple conservative educated/intelligent movers and shakers are that simply understand reality, politics, and have values, ethics, and a solid moral background. It's as if they/we don't exist.

12 posted on 11/23/2004 6:39:42 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: CHARLITE

This guy really gets it.


13 posted on 11/23/2004 6:41:10 PM PST by Ditter
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To: CHARLITE

They see the elites as merely paying lip service to that which is convenient and faddish, proving to the neighbors they sup heartily on the ideological flavor of the week, feeling nothing but a need to impress.

Isn't this the definition of John Kerry?


14 posted on 11/23/2004 6:41:25 PM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: CHARLITE
"...even though they've been humiliated twice in four years."

If you count the 2002 midterm congressional election (I do), they've been humiliated thrice. That was the year we took back the Senate and consigned Jim Jeffords, the opportunist weasel, to the back bench where he belongs.

15 posted on 11/23/2004 6:42:07 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: CHARLITE
Although the writer is, himself, indulging stereotyping, the sentiment ring true.

The important fact is not that we are all NASCAR fans or particularly religious (a lot of us aren't) but that we reject the elitist agenda of the liberals.

We are the people who don't expect the government to subsidize our vices. We are the people who don't need a warning label on a kitchen knife. We are the people who are very tired of being told we are "ignorant" or that we don't "understand" the issues.

We get it - and we told you. Quit trying to frame our beliefs in YOUR paradigm. Either get fluent or get used to hauling around your Liberal/Fly-Over Country Dictionary.

(I never thought I'd ever use "paradigm" in a sentence without laughing!)

16 posted on 11/23/2004 6:43:18 PM PST by Gingersnap
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To: gidget7
"No they don't get it, but hey lets not let them in on all of it!"

They wouldn't be listening anyway. Besides, I love hearing know-it-alls admit they're clueless over and over for weeks on end.

17 posted on 11/23/2004 6:46:22 PM PST by Bonaparte (...the rest of the shipment, standard equipment...)
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To: SugarLandTexas

I agree. Let the left-wing continue to "not get it" on their own time, thank you very much.


18 posted on 11/23/2004 6:50:25 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: Frank_2001

I agree with the poster on above you. This is getting out of hand. Sometimes I get a haircut that may cost me $200 and sometimes I go to an overpriced trendy restaurant. These labels are truly getting out of hand.


19 posted on 11/23/2004 6:50:57 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: SugarLandTexas

Hi Sugarland, Memorial here. I will never get tired of hearing the elites say that President Bush was elected by mouth breathing, booger picking morons in flyover country because as long as they are saying that, it means they haven't figured it out yet. That's great!


20 posted on 11/23/2004 6:55:19 PM PST by Ditter
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To: CHARLITE
Hell, they want to resign from the U.N., boot out the tenants and convert the real estate into a Bass Pro Shop.

Can I get a, "Hell, yeah!"

(From a university prof/stay-at-home during the day mommy!)

21 posted on 11/23/2004 7:03:08 PM PST by Malacoda
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To: CHARLITE

As a Libertarian, I frequently find myself voting for a mix of "blue" and "red", and am often invited to circles of friends on both sides.. I've found during this election that the author's description of my liberal "comerades" is pretty spot on. There is a feeling of "how could this have happened?? I've never even SEEN a conservative before, how could there be so many of them??"

When pressed for how they plan on winning next time, they invariably decide it's best to go even more extremely liberal, in an attempt to reach out to that 0 to 1% who still went for Nader. It's beyond them to try to re-capture the center by dropping a few extreme views (which I argue to them would be a better plan).

I think it's good to have a balance, and while I don't agree 100% (or even 50%) with either side, I'm afraid of what is going to happen during the next four years with basically no cohesive organized voice on the blue side.

Just my opinion. Cheers!


22 posted on 11/23/2004 7:23:45 PM PST by Stiletto
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To: CHARLITE
"What we don't realize is that there's a huge segment of the country that doesn't think like us." ;)
23 posted on 11/23/2004 7:28:57 PM PST by Libertina (We praise You Lord, You have granted America a Christian leader!)
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To: CHARLITE

24 posted on 11/23/2004 7:31:05 PM PST by pke
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To: SugarLandTexas

No matter your degrees or the color of your collar a great segment of the effete elite consider you a rube just by the fact that you are from Sugarland, Texas. Just as a certain segment of society considers anyone from New York City a hopeless, hapless, unrepentant yankee.

I lived a number of years in the North. Born and raised in the south and now am smack in central Illinois and it is the same everywhere I've been. A great number of people have an image in their mind of what "others" are and nothing changes ever.


25 posted on 11/23/2004 7:31:52 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Ignoranus: A person who's both stupid and an a**hole)
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To: CHARLITE
Hell, they want to resign from the U.N., boot out the tenants and convert the real estate into a Bass Pro Shop.

Oh, I'd rather see a Home Depot, but... okay.

26 posted on 11/23/2004 7:51:00 PM PST by wizardoz (Arafat's funeral was the Wellstone memorial, with guns.)
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To: Gingersnap
"We get it - and we told you."

We did more than that. We told them that welfare would destroy the family unit and breed crime; we told them the sexual revolution would result in bitterness and disease. We told them that abortion would cheapen life and that easily-available birth control would promote sexual license. And we were right.

We were right about every bright idea these morons have come up with for the last forty years, and they still have the ass to claim we're stupid, uneducated boobs.

No. We're hardly the "stupid" ones. And we're tired of being talked down to when we understand the very real consequences of their brainless ideas better than they ever will.

27 posted on 11/23/2004 8:00:09 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: CHARLITE
I am not one who believes these blue folks do not get it. They are too educated and worldly to be so stupid as their comments sugggests. They are simply mad at a culture they have been attacking for years and which finally struck back. It is sort of like a schoolyard bully who has just been knocked to the ground by a playmate who is backed by his friends. About all the bully can do is blubber nonsense in his shocked surprise. No, I don't think these folks are beyond understanding what has happened. They are just surprised they are not truly invincible.

Muleteam1

28 posted on 11/23/2004 8:06:11 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: CHARLITE
I am not one who believes these blue folks do not get it. They are too educated and worldly to be so stupid as their comments sugggests. They are simply mad at a culture they have been attacking for years and which finally struck back. It is sort of like a schoolyard bully who has just been knocked to the ground by a playmate who is backed by his friends. About all the bully can do is blubber nonsense in his shocked surprise. No, I don't think these folks are beyond understanding what has happened. They are just surprised they are not truly invincible.

Muleteam1

29 posted on 11/23/2004 8:07:23 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Fruitbat
Agreed! I'm highly edumacated myself and I'm also wondering where the simple conservative educated/intelligent movers and shakers are that simply understand reality, politics, and have values, ethics, and a solid moral background. It's as if they/we don't exist

Count me in your group too.

As a "party" they have no willingness or ability to doubt their philosophy. To acknowledge that they have a "worthy" adversary would obligate them to make coherent arguments for their positions that are realistic, based on some values, have some ethical basis and a moral code.

Several factors contribute to their inability and/or unwillingness to engage in a true "battle of ideas".

- Most of their "political philosophy" is grounded in intellectually clever, but fatally flawed premises. Their Leftist emphasis on psuedo-diversity, egalitarianism, moral relativism, various forms of collectivism, post-modernism, deconstructionism, rule by the cultural and intellectual elite, et al are derivatives of Kantian philosophy, which have failed (or are failing) in every case where they have been tried.

-These base philosophies are (like their party) an incoherent collection of narrow interests, some of which are in conflict (e.g. who is the most important, worthy minority group) Their only cohesion is the strength of their collective numbers, and there is little synergy.

-The Democratic party itself has shifted left, since the New Left went underground in the early 70's, and captured the party (e.g. McGovern). There is no "visible" left wing. They genuinely believe (or wish to appear) that the party is slightly Left-Center or Centrist. The 1960's Liberals (e.g. Humphrey) are "their" extremists, but they don't consider them extreme, but instead, "the mainstream".

Consequently, everyone to the "right" of their center position is right-wing or extreme right-wing, and "out-of-the mainstream". A classic centerist Democrat (e.g. Scoop Jackson) looks to them to be a right-winger. -They have grown intellectually lazy and feel no need to "make the case" intellectually. Instead, they have had power (by default) for so long that they consider that to be the norm. The Republican control must be an abberration, since it is not "mainstream".

-Being intellectually lazy they resort to imagery and propaganda, assuming (incorrectly) that their philosophies are "self-evident" and need no explanation, but just better advertising. Since they believe they have the best "product", and consider that to be self-evident, it becomes simply a marketing problem.

-Their assortment of minority groups has one thing in common. They are all victims of "the majority", They are all approaching government for redress of their grievances from a position of helplessness. However, the solutions they seek aren't limited to "fainess", they want retribution and punitive damages (e.g. affirmative action, speech codes, et al).

-The cumulative effect of these things encourages them to create caricatures of their adversaries, cast themselves in the best light, and adversaries in their worst light. Hence, the racist, homophobic, uneducated, redneck, religious zealot caricature of their adversaries, overshadows any deficiencies they may have. Relativism allows them to recast even their shortcomings as morally superior (e.g. Clinton lied, but not about anything important). Their certainty of the superiority of their "morals" and positions on the issues, creates a delusional, artificial world. When it collided with reality in 2000, they could still rationalize their fantasy, by assuming it was an error; they were cheated.

As the reality therapy of 2004 continued, the delusion became harder to maintain, and they went into shock. I believe what we are witnessing, is the collapse of their delusion.

At this point, they can either continue the reality therapy, or retreat deeper into their delusion.

They seem to be at the tipping point; "living on the edge of chaos"

Time will tell which choice they make. It could be quite a show

30 posted on 11/23/2004 8:11:55 PM PST by Socrates1
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To: CHARLITE

Kerry Miracle - Too Little, Too Late

Al Beril - Liberal Times, Greenwich Village

Lines were around the corner at the Mac Dougal Diner in Greenwich Village yesterday to witness what has been labeled a “Democrat Miracle”. To the amazement of Mick Thwaite, who ordered a grilled cheese sandwich, he got much more than he bargained for. “At first I thought it was like a mirage or something. You know, like when you’ve been going without something for so long, and then you think you finally see it – which is how I felt since Kerry lost. That’s why when I saw the face of Kerry there looking back up at me from the plate – I just couldn’t believe my eyes! I had to ask the guy next to me if I was really seeing what I was seeing.”

The waitress on duty at the time was less impressed: “Listen, Elvis eats here every third Wednesday at 3 O’clock. This doesn’t surprise me in the least.”

Others who have seen the miraculous apparition have also expressed disbelief citing that the republican chef may have just etched Kerry’s image into the sandwich with a butter knife.

“I don’t care what people say,” remarked Thwaite, “I bought this sandwich and am a believer. This is a clear message from a higher power that Kerry should have won the election. I voted for Kerry – and I think this is just his way or reassuring me that there’s still hope.”

Initially, Thwaite had planned on selling the item on E-bay, sure that he would get at least five figures. However, after dropping the sandwich on the floor, the image more resembled Al Gore, at which the sandwich was promptly discarded.

Qui Mundis

31 posted on 11/23/2004 8:18:01 PM PST by QuiMundus (Learn, Act, Educate, Repeat)
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To: SugarLandTexas

The writer certainly isn't describing the base of the Democrat party. The problem with the Democrats is the plantation mentality of their leaders and their previous success in keeping the downtrodden on the plantation. P.S. I'm sure it's killing my liberal Austin family to be labeled red-staters :)


32 posted on 11/23/2004 8:55:40 PM PST by des
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To: Ditter

Feeling misunderestimated? :)


33 posted on 11/23/2004 8:58:37 PM PST by des
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To: Frank_2001

They can't get the NASCAR, guns and pickups? Well, I can't understand people who enjoy $30 hamburgers, $200 haircuts, maniacal cabdrivers and living stacked on top of each other in 700-foot piles




We understand when you look at this clown: !!!

"For a guy who's been known derisively to the Bush crowd as the Breck girl," observes Shearer, vice presidential candidate John Edwards seems "way too interested in his hair." He tries to straighten it with his fingers. A makeup technician approaches with a comb, but the senator likes it just so and does the combing himself. He signals he's ready for hair spray by closing his eyes expectantly, like a child. Then Edwards and the technician straighten a little more with their fingers. Please don't tell me that thing in his hand is a compact. Oh, dear. It is.

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34 posted on 11/23/2004 9:58:52 PM PST by danamco
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To: QuiMundus
"This is a clear message from a higher power that Kerry should have won the election."

He is wrong about that; it simply means Kerry is toast

35 posted on 11/24/2004 6:07:59 AM PST by Designer (Sysiphus Sr. to Junior; "It was uphill, all the way, both ways!")
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To: SugarLandTexas

Boy, isn't that the fact.
We must have went to different schools together. :)

But I don't see the media ever changing until and unless they literally go bankrupt.


36 posted on 11/24/2004 6:14:58 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Sonny M
I know a few folks who fit the "NASCAR, NFL and pickup truck" mold. They are good folks. At times I wish I could be more like them and less of a computer geek; it would be nice to have the skills to build and / or finish your own house and fix your own car. I share a lot of their values (like God and guns...), but there at not enough of these people to win national elections. Kerry did best among HS drop-outs, over-educated twits and, if I'm not mistaken, millionaires and billionaires. Bush won college grads and folks making over $100K.
The stereotype disturbs me, 'cause if the RNC folks rely on it, they might lose next time around.
37 posted on 11/24/2004 6:21:03 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: SugarLandTexas
I believe the "Elitist Liberal" stereotype misses most "Blue Staters."

I agree. NASCAR bores me (except the crashes and I can catch them on the 11:00 news). This idea that somehow the "intellectuals" have staked out the blue states is just wrong.

If you want to see erudite, just look at FreeRepublic. Want to find out if something is true or not? Post it here. Your facts, argumentation, spelling, punctuation and supporting materials will be subject to scrutiny that a Doctoral Thesis could not survive.

FreeRepublic represents true intellectualism in the USA (and beyond). Because our system of government was established by geniuses, it takes very intelligent people to comprehend it well enough to support it. I think more people in the US are intelligent than not. This is not about a small cadre of self-appointed intellegencia who wish to act as caretakers. This is about the USA as a whole being much, much smarter than the anti-American, pro-Socialist Left will admit to themselves. For if they admit to themselves that most people are as intelligent as them, they have no reason to live (thus the suicide talk we have heard about).

You have but to hear the average Leftist "intellectual" pout about "that's not democratic" to realize they don't even understand the first thing about our representative system and the checks and balances therein.

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38 posted on 11/24/2004 6:27:57 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Democrat credo: If we win, we win: if we lose it is theft!)
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