Darwin doubted Darwin
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html
"Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution"
Irreducible Complexity, the enigma that only creation explains.
That is my biggest complaint. In any discussion on evolutionary theory, I am painted as a "Creationist", when in reality I tend to believe evolutionary theory as well as God's hand.
The absolute, scientific proof is simply not there for evolutionists, no matter what they say.
Here we go...
Existence and that which makes it possible is far to perfect, complex, and the same, to have randomly evolved. The theory of evolution will ultimetely take its proper place alongside the theory of the flat earth.
Ping for later reading.
Moral Absolutes ping - Absolutely the last ping of the day. I probably wouldn't be able to understand the book in question, I find it hard to read very scientific tomes without getting narcolepsy.
But I am always glad such books are there! Maybe I will give it a try anyway. This article confirms something that is very significant - liberals/atheists/secularists [including the subset here of "Darwinists"] always hate to debate fact. They are reduced to name calling, sloganeering, ridicule, straw man arguments, and attempting to define terms and stand on agreed upon foundation which only they believe in. IOW, if a person disagrees with their premise in the beginning (say evolution), then the disagreer is condemned at the outset as a Neanderthal (no pun intended!), knuckledragger, etc.
Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.
(Another interesting book about the lack of real evidence for evolution, and how the Darwinists lie and cheat, is "Forbidden Archeology - the Hidden History of the Human Race" by Michael Cremo.)
The problem with evolution theory is that it doesn't take into consideration what happened pre-Earth. I believe the 4 billion year fossil record is accurate. I believe that evolution occured. I just think that the Creator planned/designed (whatever it is they do) it all. To me, it's not one or the other, it's both. Geez, what a peacemaker I am.
ID'ers are cowardly creationists.
....simple-minded religious zealots....
Excellant summation that pretty well describes the dissent
Any anti-Darwin book is bound to have a large audience, and if an author has any claim of authority, well, why not?
Maybe I should write one. I need a retirement stake. [/sarcasm]
Darwin said that if no proof was found that macro-evolution (evolving from one species to another) was wrong.
These guys are agreeing with Darwin when they "doubt" him.
As you will be told, there is no such thing.
No intellectual doubts Darwin.
Anyone who doubts Darwin is not an intellectual.
(Rinse, repeat.)
Dan
Creationism is not even a scientific argument, and therefore discardable ipso facto. Even if it really happened exactly like that, only an irrational person would assert its relevance to scientific endeavor (null priors and all that).
Intelligent Design is dominated by pseudo-mathematical asshats like Dembski, who invent new math that can be trivially demonstrated to be inconsistent with the mathematics that everyone else uses by any decent mathematician in the field. If ID wants people to listen, they need credible authorities. As for the people who trot out Dembski and Behe as authorities, it brings to mind the old saw "Who is the bigger fool? The fool or the fool who follows him?"
Strict Darwinian speciation is probably incorrect as a system model in practice, even though there is nothing theoretically wrong with the idea in the abstract -- it is mathematically sound. System models such as genomic automata would work on sufficiently faster time scales that it would dominate the speciation process.
And then there are the idiots who think that there can only be either Evolution or Creationism/ID -- a false dichotomy that ignores an astronomical palette of other possibilities. Proving evolution to be incorrect does not even remotely prove Creationism/ID to have validity.
Most people have such a ridiculously narrow conception of the space that their opinions on the matter are worthless. Which isn't unusual, look at the global warming issue...
I thought we we placed here by aliens?
read later
Pray for W and Our Troops
What cracks me up is that "evolutionists" have resorted to redefining "species" to make their case.
Thus, any adaptation WITHIN a species, becomes an evoluition to a new species.