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JFK and the corset that helped to kill a president
Houston Chronicle ^
| 11-23-2004
| By JAMES RESTON JR.
Posted on 11/24/2004 12:03:50 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
The corset did not kill Kennedy and neither did Oswald. I am conviced he was set up as a patsy and although in the Texas Book Depository that day, he was not on the sixth floor.
I still believe the fatal headshot came from the front not the rear. I am not so sure the first shot that penetrated his throat back to front would also not have been fatal. It pierced his trachea and larynx and it is possible he could have drown in his own blood before he got to Parkland.
Again, all this is still conjecture on my part, no one will ever really know for sure. It happened 41 years ago, all the players are either very old or dead and a lot of vital evidence was either lost or buried by the conspirators.
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posted on
11/24/2004 12:49:13 PM PST
by
SSG USA
To: Grendel9
I'm guessing you've never worn a corset. Lucky.
A properly constructed bodice covers from just under the breasts to where the hipbones start (perhaps a bit closer to the nipples on a man, and if a "shelf" model a bit closer to those on the woman too). You can move your head and shoulders and arms; it's the belly-dancer torso shimmy-type movements that are difficult. Bending side-to-side is also tricky. Your torso itself won't be flexible.
A REALLY good corset will support your back muscles so well that after a day of wearing it, your back aches when you take it off.
Note: if your corset restricts head, shoulder, or arm movement, GET RE-FITTED STAT.
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posted on
11/24/2004 12:49:36 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
To: weegee
IF my aunt had a Penis , she would have been my Uncle.
To: Yo-Yo
How do you think he screwed his back Up? In a PT boat or sumpn'?
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posted on
11/24/2004 12:51:17 PM PST
by
Safetgiver
(Mud slung is ground lost.)
To: weegee
It really doesn't matter anymore. The fact is he is dead. If he had not been murdered in office he would have been a disastrous President. It's his death that people romanticize. He was more conservative than liberals today BUT he did nothing impressive while he was in office. The Bay of Pigs was another mess. His messing around on his wife was another embarrassment typically of Demoncrats.
I simply not impressed with the Kennedy's or ANYTHING they have done.
45
posted on
11/24/2004 12:52:14 PM PST
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: SSG USA
Lee Harvey Oswald was a violent leftist wacko who was in an unfortunate position to murder President Kennedy.
He thought the whole thing up on a moment's notice, and did it all by himself with no outside help whatsoever.
It was also not Oswald's first assassination attempt on a notable public figure.
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posted on
11/24/2004 12:52:32 PM PST
by
The KG9 Kid
(Semper Fi!)
To: Ditto
It would have been an easy shot, even for someone who wasn't a Marine Corps marksman.I have stood on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository also, and my first reaction looking out the window was the same as yours. What an easy shot it would have been for Oswald.
To: sgtbono2002
Yeah, and if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass when he hops.
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posted on
11/24/2004 12:55:40 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
To: AmericanInTokyo
Without the corset, the force of the first bullet, traveling at a speed of 2,000 feet a second, would surely have driven the president's body forward Bunk. These people watch too many Scwarzenegger movies. A high velocity metal jacketed bullet is designed to penetrate and pass through the victim. When it hit Connally it was no longer high velocity, it was tumbling and it hit bone. 3 conditions which would cause it to impart momentum rather than penetrate cleanly.
With no bones struck and the spinal cord intact, the president almost certainly would have survived the wound from the first bullet. Bunk. The President's arm drawn up with the elbows to the side is neurologic reflex to a devastating spinal cord injury. It was described in the medical literature about 100 years ago. Survive? Perhaps. Recover? No. He would have been quadriplegic. The cord injury resulted form the compression wave as the bullet passed within inches of the spinal cord.
most experts agree with the Warren Commission that Oswald's first bullet passed cleanly through Kennedy's lower neck Bunk. Neither remark is true. The Warren Commission doesn't conclude what happened to the first bullet, and most experts certainly don't agree the first bullet hit Kennedy. For us nonconspiracy people, the second and third shots hit Kennedy.
To: IndyTiger
I have always thought people who don't think Oswald could have done it should take a trip to Dallas and look out that window.
It would change their minds.
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posted on
11/24/2004 12:57:56 PM PST
by
Ditto
( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
To: Ditto
Ah, but what if there were two shooters on the 6th floor?
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posted on
11/24/2004 12:59:08 PM PST
by
savedbygrace
("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
To: The KG9 Kid
I bought a Mannlicher Caranco 91/38, and neither I or any other trained marksmen have been able to duplicate Oswald's feat, shooting at a fixed target. Of course none of them were left handed, using a rifle designed for right handed people, so the test may be invalid. BTW, Western is still about the sole supplier of the 6.5 mm Italian cartridge. They are getting just about a $1 a bullet, according to Shotgun News.
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posted on
11/24/2004 12:59:39 PM PST
by
investigateworld
(( "Bob, I bled from every wound", Sen. J. Kerry to Sen. R. Dole ...Target HQ is in a blue state! ))
To: savedbygrace
Ah, but what if there were two shooters on the 6th floor? That's a new one. What if there were a whole battalion of Marine snipers on the 6th floor?
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posted on
11/24/2004 1:02:03 PM PST
by
Ditto
( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
To: Yo-Yo; weegee
.
...The week before JFK'S head was blow off in Dallas...
...JFK had re-injured his back while "Playing" around with the "Ladies" in friend BING CROSBY's Palm Springs home Pool =
A very timely JFK Historical Corset period..?
.
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posted on
11/24/2004 1:03:30 PM PST
by
ALOHA RONNIE
("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
To: investigateworld
When did Oswald become left handed and what source of info. does this come from please?
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posted on
11/24/2004 1:04:12 PM PST
by
MAWG
(Arafat, Kerry and now Rather..... I'll drink to that!)
To: sgtbono2002
If your Aunt had testacles, she would be your 'Nutty Aunt'
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posted on
11/24/2004 1:05:05 PM PST
by
SCALEMAN
(Super Cards Fan)
To: Ditto
Boy thats the truth, when you're actually there and you see the real distance, (it looks like a long shot in all the pictures), you can see how easy a shot it would have been.
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posted on
11/24/2004 1:06:06 PM PST
by
Shellback Chuck
(Hey John, whose your daddy?)
To: weegee
I don't know the name but yes indeed there is a second film of the shooting. It is from the other side of the street and a little farther away. It is also color. It was Oliver Stone.
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posted on
11/24/2004 1:08:42 PM PST
by
expatpat
To: ClearCase_guy
Perhaps the force of the bullet sent JFK's body forward: JFK's rso banged forward against the corset, then jerked back from the force of banging against the corset that didn't "give".
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posted on
11/24/2004 1:10:11 PM PST
by
utahagen
To: Yo-Yo
Little known fact regarding the eerie similarities between the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations: 12 days before he was shot Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland.
12 days before he was shot, Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe.
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posted on
11/24/2004 1:12:45 PM PST
by
Michael.SF.
(Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith: living proof that one need not be poor to be white trash.)
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