Posted on 11/25/2004 4:52:30 AM PST by Ginifer
What price will we pay in future terrorist attacks because of our continued failure to protect our borders? How many terrorists are slipping into the U.S. along with the millions of illegal aliens? No one knows, and federal officials are trying to keep this explosive scandal under wraps. In June, the Tombstone Tumbleweed, a local newspaper in Tombstone, Arizona, reported that on June 13, 2004, Border Patrol agents had encountered a group of approximately 158 illegal border crossers near the foothills of the Chiricahua Mountains. Only 71 members of the group were apprehended. According to the Tumbleweed, among them were 53 males of middle-eastern descent. An unnamed Border Patrol agent told the newspaper: [W]e discovered they spoke poor English with a middle-eastern accent; then we caught them speaking to each other in Arabic.... This is ridiculous that we dont take this more seriously, and were told not to say a thing to the media, but I have to.
Border Patrol spokesman Andy Adame responded to the story with a categorical denial. There were no middle-easterners in the group, said Mr. Adame. Every single one of them was Mexican.
Shortly thereafter, as if to prove Mr. Adame wrong, another incident occurred. The Tumbleweed reported: On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Willcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic-speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.
A retired Border Patrol agent, who has been a longtime reliable source, informed The New American that a local law enforcement officer confirmed that arrests of Middle Eastern men in Cochise County had indeed taken place. The retired Border Patrol agent, who is still active in law enforcement, said that he recently learned of similar occurrences in New Mexico. It appears that the smugglers, known as coyotes, have developed a system of using Mexican aliens for cover. According to the retired agent, the Border Patrol has been losing the Arabs because they were lagging behind the Mexican groups that were being led in by the coyotes. It seems that the Border Patrol grabs the Mexican group, loads them up and leaves while the Arabs lag behind and get away. However, when Middle-Eastern aliens are arrested, they are immediately taken by the Department of Homeland Security and Border Patrol agents. Local law enforcement are told to be quiet about it for national security reasons. The Bush administration, ever anxious to put a happy face on our deteriorating border situation, does not reveal the national origin of those arrested.
However, the Border Patrols Andy Adame did release a very alarming footnote. Adame reported that from October 2003 through June 2004, Border Patrol agents in the Tucson sector alone had apprehended 5,510 illegals from countries other than Mexico or other Central or South American countries. Adame described them as people from all over the world.
Catch and release program.
Welcome to the United States of Islam.
Very disturbing.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith,
but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America,
and Islam the only accepted religion on earth"
--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations),
San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998
I wonder how many thousands of MEs the klintoon admin graciously welcomed with open arms, voter registration forms(demo-commie) and public assistance? I am not buying into this leftist propaganda. The 9/11 terrorists, did they cross the border illegally? Freepers beware of the subterfuge of the DNC/Klintoon commie supporters. I wonder about this so called former border patrol agent. Why would he put intell/procedures out for others to know? Cover-Up? maybe he was thinking of OKC, Waco, and TWA 800 as starters. Those were ther real cover-ups in America under commie klintoon&reno. I wonder how many times this (BPA) voiced his opinion openly during the klintoon admin?
Read and you might understand why the invasion is so successful, we call it a Stealth Invasion. This is not about National Security; it is about the lack of a protective force on our borders, turf wars, the red tape to send these aliens back. The AZ border is the funnel because of Janet Reno and no one has corrected it. McCain and Kolbe should be screaming and they are not - they are part of the problem...WHY?
I'll tell you one thing. McCain should be screaming "bloddy murder" about the porous border with Mexico because this is going to be a major issue in 2008 and if McCain hopes to be President he needs to get involved in this issue pronto; the most porous border is in Arizona, McCain's home state. Hillary Clinton has already recognized this problem and is moving very quickly to make it the centerpiece of he campaign...in fact, she is moving to the right of the GOP, if you can believe that!
As I've said before - we're giving 80 year old Iowa farm wives the full body search at the airports, meanwhile this islamic terror pours across the border. I can't seem to get it through my head why we allow this. Islam kills everywhere it grows! and it's coming to a community near you.
McCain? The Manchurian Senator? Does anyone out there know what this guy's motivation is?
As far as border security is concerned, this Bush administration will go down in history as eight completely wasted years.
The insatiable greed for power.

The problem has been well defined now, and I'm not hearing anything from this current administration of any effort to remedy the problem of the southern border. We best not be on our way to another 4 years of silence, or we cannot boast that Bush did anything better than Klintoon about the issue.
They know about the problem. How they chose to (or not to) enforce our border protection is another issue. It quite possibly will take even more deaths of our US citizens on our soil for them to even act like they are interested in protecting our borders.
I'm not even hopeful at that.
Very good. But we all know she's lying like hell about it, just to attract the votes. She'd never follow through with it, lol.
Do you truly believe that Republican politicians can do no wrong?
Slap yourself back into reality as fast as you can!
WHY? WHY? WHY?
Is the President waiting for another terrorist attack so that he can get our idiotic legislators to approve Patriot Act II in a blind rush?

>I think of this guy:
I wonder how much sense it makes to blame the Clintoons for the illegals that are now crossing. I wonder if it makes sense to be in denial about the failings of the Bush administration to do anything about it for the first term. The truth be known, neither administration has accepted the responsibility to protect the American people from foreign agents who want to come into the United States. Political affiliation will not protect you when the terrorist strikes. Bush backers will die just as readily as the oppositon. They don't care if you are a Republican or Democrat, you're supposed to be an American.
BTTT
This isn't new, in the 80s I was waiting to pick up a passanger at Brown Field, San Diego, and was having a cup of coffee at the airport bar where there were half a dozen border patrol guys and at that time they said that about 20% of the illegals coming across the border were asian and middle eastern.
In 1987 I was approached and offered $1000/head to fly chinese from a private airstrip near Guadalahara to a private airstrip just south of the US border because they couldn't get them past the Mexican road check points which I turned down but it sure demonstrates how big a problem it has been for a long time.
If they were going to pay me $1000/head how much was the total price to move them from China into the US and who was paying the bill? I would guess that it was the Communist Chinese Government!
Sense? Well one must look first at the cause and affect. 19992-20000 8 years of do nothing, but enhance the flow of illegals for more voter fraud.Terrorist attacks; Kobe Towers, WTC, TWA 800, OKC bombing, USS Cole bombing, Embassies bombed= 0 action. Klintoon enters office drug interdiction cut back 80%. The guard was dropped and now we must recover. 9/11 was on the hands of klintoon and crowd, though vehemently denied by the demo-commies. President Bush has accepted responsiblity and that's why we are pro-active against terrorism today. Yes, there is more work to be done and President Bush will stay the course in illegal immigration/combatting terrorism. (I do appreciate your response for it generates more concepts for dissemination/query. As to being an American, last time I checked my country is America, land of the free and home of the brave. I am a registered Republican, NRA lifemember, DAV,retired from the military and federal law enforcement. I am an American, no hyphens either. So what about you ????
Yes, I do believe anyone can do wrong, so slap yourself back into reality Pal!!!
Excellent point and you reasoning is very logical. I think that it is important to see what caused the problem, seek a viable solution and then implement the corrective action. I think we will see more action taken on the illegal immigration matter shortly. I appreciate your response and let's stay on our elected representatives to do their jobs in de-fanging this serpent.NSNR
According to the IRS, in 2001 individuals paying taxes with an ITIN, rather than a Social Security number (i.e. illegal aliens; the only individuals who have a need for or qualify for an ITIN are those without citizenship or lawful permanent residency) paid $305 million in federal income taxes. Calculated against 8 million illegal aliens, thats a per capita federal tax payment of $38.13, and against 12 million illegal aliens, thats a per capita federal tax payment of only $25.42. Since neither payment indicates earnings that would allow an individual to survive for one year, we can conclude only that there is persistent, massive tax non-compliance among illegal immigrants.
The millions of illegal aliens in America are very grateful this Thanksgiving Day for your contributions to their welfare. They will be eternally grateful for the "Title 8 of the US Code laws be damned" attitude that our President has.
The Middle Eastern men crossing from Mexico into the US in Cochise County, AZ. support President Bush quite strongly even though Kerry would have probably removed the word Enforcement completely from the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement division.
Carter and Clinton were real buttheads. What is President Bush going to be considered when his term is done?
According to the IRS, in 2001 individuals paying taxes with an ITIN, rather than a Social Security number (i.e. illegal aliens; the only individuals who have a need for or qualify for an ITIN are those without citizenship or lawful permanent residency) paid $305 million in federal income taxes. Calculated against 8 million illegal aliens, thats a per capita federal tax payment of $38.13, and against 12 million illegal aliens, thats a per capita federal tax payment of only $25.42. Since neither payment indicates earnings that would allow an individual to survive for one year, we can conclude only that there is persistent, massive tax non-compliance among illegal immigrants.
The millions of illegal aliens in America are very grateful this Thanksgiving Day for your contributions to their welfare. They will be eternally grateful for the "Title 8 of the US Code laws be damned" attitude that our President has.
The Middle Eastern men crossing from Mexico into the US in Cochise County, AZ. support President Bush quite strongly even though Kerry would have probably removed the word Enforcement completely from the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement division.
Carter and Clinton were real buttheads. What is President Bush going to be considered when his term is done?
Same thing I've done, with little or no response from any of them. I guess paying off their campaign debts to slavemasters is more important than the security of our country.
Sorry folks, but Chris Simcox, the publisher of this rag is full of crap.
This never happened.
Do a google search for muslim/mexico. The number of hispanic converts to Islam is astounding. Over 13 cities in Mexico have Islam centers/schools. There numerous hispanic/muslim centers in the US, mostly LA area. They recruit in the prisons, does anyone find it odd that they will recruit among illegal migrants?
Good point and I have to agree some of the repubs need a career change. I was in Arizona back in the early 1990s. The area is very beautiful and I can't blame the ranchers for their attitude towards the illegals trespassing on their property. I would be highly upset myself and strongly uphold the(RKBA). If enough of us put pressure on the legislators things will change. The MEs are a serious problem. Did all the 9/11 terrorists enter the USA legally? I am not sure myself and if you can clarify please respond? Take care my friend, NSNR
IMO, he's got an ego the size of a football stadium, and still has major trouble reconciling his POW years as a "survivor" vs "warriors" who fought and returned, NRT.
His anger at and hate of America is well-known; ask anyone who's had contact w/ him on a daily basis, like Arlie Sphincter (LIBERAL-PA), both are nasty personnas.
Johnny "No Brain" McCain disguises it well, whereas Sphincter doesn't.
Just a few sites you might want to look at:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24987
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1276205/posts
http://www.blogsofwar.com/archives/2004/10/12/intelligence-report-indicates-25-chechen-terrorists-may-be-in-the-us/
http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=2172749
http://www.tvrundown.com/0436.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/08/15/wmex15.xml
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1845.cfm
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1279916/posts
http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/illegal-aliens-immigration.html
I've seen them or know whats in them.
Fact is Simcox is spreading Bullshit on the incidents he claimed happened.
I've done my research. I have access to all of the databases used by Customs and Border Protection and I have spoken with agents working that day. The above incidents did not happen.
Simcox is on a mission and spreading lies is one of his tactics.
Don't give up. Don't expect a personal response, but keep at it!!
I called my congressman's office one day to express support, and actually ended up talking with him for over an hour when the secretary put me on hold.
They are listening, but they need more support. They're going to be slammed by all types of Illegal Rights organizations once they speak up...so they've got to make sure their ducks are in a row, and their supporters are a solid entity...and ready for a fight.
The opposition has a lot of freebies to lose, so they are a more vocal group. Your task should be to convince friends and family that they have a lot more to lose. Make it personal, and they will come around.
They really have no choice in the matter. If everyone that has an opinion, expresses it...
Givin up Thanks to Jim for this forum today. Happy Thanksgiving guys.
About all we can do, my friend. I'm with you.
Hope you and yours have had a wonderful Thanksgiving!
Maybe we all don't agree on everything, but to all my freeper brothers and sisters have a blessed and happy Thanksgiving. NSNR
I know our government is unwilling to do the job and is intentionally underfunding border security while hiding behind the fact that they're "doing more than ever." They can skew all they wish; the fact remains that not enough is done about our border security. I propose that the money I would have had to provide for infrastructure support for illegal employees (after I and others remove them from the picture) be rechanneled to bounty rewards. Surpluses will easily finance any politician's pet programs once this gets rolling.
A quick search...simply for the fact that I don't think Marine Inspector is a bayourod type. He's put up a lot of information in the past, deserves more than a cursory glance.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/04-FEATURES/040120-GOV-TARGET-CITIZENS/040120_Feature.html
Chris may have a dog in this fight. I don't blame him for the articles, but considering his background...maybe his stories are a little exaggerated.
Can't believe I just said that.
The border is a joke. Whatever the MExicans and Vicente Fox wants - the U.S. politicians comply. The Mexicans will work for peanuts as coyotes as the Muslims lag behond and sneak in.
And from the other side...
http://www.aztlan.net/simcoxvigilante.htm
I'd rather have Chris on my side. He's making a difference, and people are scared of him.
Check out the above story from our buddies at Aztlan.
Impeach Carol C. Lam U.S. Attorney; Her policies allow free access to undocumented Criminan Illegal Aliens! Put those in prison who hire them in violation of our Immigration Laws and Statutes and also assess a large fine in addition! Make it as tough and uncomfortable as possible and you destroy the incentive to risk coming here in the first place!
Simcox's recent statements are indicative of an unbalanced mind. They are symptoms of an acute neurosis. He must be stopped before more innocent people are murdered as were the two Mexican migrants workers near Red Rock, Arizona on October 18, 2002.
How nice of them to imply that Simcox is a raving murderer without quite saying it outright.
Sounds like a perceptive SoCal Native, who sees what is happening to his home. Maybe tried to do things "the right way" and was met with indifference and contempt.
So he decided to move, and met up with some like minded individuals to physically DO something about the problem.
Said it before, and I'll say it again. I've got no problem with the militia types. Especially when they're making the number of 'assists' to law enforcement that they are. You can't look at the results of Chris' actions, and say he is the problem. He's probably the only answer at this point.
Unbalanced mind. Yeah. Cuz the damn Invaders (and supporters) are driving us nuts.
Our greatest danger comes from illegal aliens and select legal immigrants all who are inflitrating this country and bledning in, waiting to strike.
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