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Ukraine's all-powerful tycoons missing in action ......( Where's my scorecard?)
Kyiv Post ^ | Nov 26, 04 | Kyiv Post

Posted on 11/26/2004 12:56:31 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb

Ukraine’s richest, most powerful people have stayed out of the spotlight during the five days of what’s being called the Ukrainian opposition’s “Orange Revolution.”

That’s no surprise, as opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko has been calling them “bandits” during rallies, and saying they belong in jail after robbing the Ukrainian nation of its riches and suppressing democracy.

Many believe that if the opposition takes control of the government, Ukraine’s so-called “oligarchs” – who backed the candidacy of Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych - could be tried for stealing state property, election fraud, and other crimes. This group includes Presidential Administration head Viktor Medvedchuk, President Leonid Kuchma’s son-in-law Viktor Pinchuk, and Donetsk-based business mogul Rinat Akhmetov, supposedly the nation’s richest man.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: akhmetov; boys; follow; kuchma; medvedchuk; men; money; oligarchs; pinchuk; soros; toys; ukraine; viktoryushchenko; yanukovych; yushchenko
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1 posted on 11/26/2004 12:56:31 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
I'm surprised this list does not include 'honorary Ukrainian'
George Soros . If there is ever a dirty pot internationally ,
his hand is in it....
2 posted on 11/26/2004 1:20:32 PM PST by injin
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To: injin

Agreed, he enjoys stirring the pot.And he has no accountability.


3 posted on 11/26/2004 1:32:06 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: injin

Are you kidding ? You don't bite the hand that feeds you.


4 posted on 11/26/2004 2:27:09 PM PST by Truth666
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
I have a feeling Soros is accountable to someone. My bet is he is directly accountable to the KGB who use him to destabilize free nations the world over. Indeed, Soros support of Yushchenko is probably designed to dupe otherwise well-meaning conservatives into distancing themselves from the Genuine opposition (I say "genuine" because I'm not sure I trust Yushchenko given his privileged status before the Soviet Union "collapsed") Putin's KGB almost certainly penetrated the opposition parties long ago, if not started them in the first place. I'm still trying to figure out why Yushchenko was poisoned. If he is legit, then it would suggest the KGB tried to take him out to clear the way for Yanucklehead, or perhaps they were trying to take him out to advance one of their sleepers in the opposition. I know this is "way out there" for alot of FReepers, but you had better learn to think along these lines if you ever hope to decipher the Machiavellian nightmare that is the "former" Soviet Union.
5 posted on 11/26/2004 2:28:13 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource
Yes,the layers of deceit and lies woven into the Russian political system is mind-boggling the Putin cannot screw up and start acting like the Satlinist. Many believe his actions have been steadily towards just that type of thinking and polices.
6 posted on 11/26/2004 2:40:26 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

Russia is a mystery wrapped in an enigma inside a riddle. (or however that quote goes)


7 posted on 11/26/2004 2:57:29 PM PST by FReepaholic (Proud FReeper since 1998. Proud monthly donor.)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta

Ping


8 posted on 11/26/2004 2:58:26 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: TapTheSource

Soros and his pal the late fraudster Robert Maxwell were both tried & convicted for insider trading a few years ago. Maxwell was already dead. They worked together on global scams and supposedly were connected to at least one intelligence agency. Search Google for more.

Maxwell had a multi billion fraud and thousands of UK workers lost their pensions thanks to Maxwell. His sons were later tried in London and got off.


9 posted on 11/26/2004 3:02:36 PM PST by FrankRepublican (Boycott NBC & their parent company General Electric for smearing the USMC)
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To: TapTheSource; Cutterjohnmhb
I have a feeling Soros is accountable to someone. My bet is he is directly accountable to the KGB who use him to destabilize free nations the world over.

I will never beleive Putin is working with Soros.

$oro$ is working for himself.

10 posted on 11/26/2004 3:04:06 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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Speaking of the questionable leadership in the Ukrainian opposition...

“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” - V. Lenin (1917).

I think the vast majority of the street-level opposition is genuine, but you can count on Putin's KGB to have either infiltrated and/or created their own opposition leadership long ago. This really shouldn't come as a great shock, this is standard operating procedure for the KGB.


11 posted on 11/26/2004 3:07:50 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: FrankRepublican

"Soros and his pal the late fraudster Robert Maxwell were both tried & convicted for insider trading a few years ago. Maxwell was already dead. They worked together on global scams and supposedly were connected to at least one intelligence agency. Search Google for more."

Thanks, Soros strikes me as entirely too stupid to have amassed his billions by himself. Me thinks he had some "help."


12 posted on 11/26/2004 3:10:19 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

The same invisble hand that created Beresovsly, Chodokovsky & Co.


13 posted on 11/26/2004 3:23:06 PM PST by Truth666
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To: injin
I'm surprised this list does not include 'honorary Ukrainian' George Soros . If there is ever a dirty pot internationally , his hand is in it....

What about Yulia Timoshenko - the "Iron Princess" behind the Yushchenko coup?


14 posted on 11/26/2004 3:24:23 PM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; TapTheSource; cicero's_son; jimbo123; Lukasz; Agog; AdmSmith; b2stealth; ...
These are the gangsters pulling the strings. The head of the Soros funded "International Renaissance Foundation" denies that Soros is funding Yushchenko. The group is an election monitor NGO. A message posted on the Maidan website refers the reader to the IRH website http://www.irf.kiev.ua - George Soros does not pay for the campaign against Yanukovych

Here is a google cache of the relevant link. It describes Soros' partnership with Viktor Pinchuk, Kuchma’s son-in-law.

ICTV, owned by Victor Pinchuk, represents one of the country's most popular private television stations. Although it is primarily a commercial TV station with focus on entertainment and sports, the impact of its political coverage should not be underestimated. ICTV has traditionally favored pro-Kuchma political parties and has so far been identified as one of the main pro-government oriented media outlets.

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The press in Ukraine began covering Soros's planned visit in the weeks leading up to it. Comments from media controlled by Viktor Medvechuk ranged from ideological attacks to accusations that Soros was behind the overthrow of Milosevic, Shevardnadze, and that he was now coming to Ukraine with the same intentions. No other media, including that owned by Viktor Pinchuk, participated in the attacks.

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George Soros helped Viktor Medvedchuk become a well-known lawyer and public figure. Ukrainian Bar Association headed by Medvedchuk received three grants from George Soros amounting to 87 thousand 677 dollars. IRF supported the initiative of the public organization headed by Medvedchuk as to implementation of the project "Comprehensive Theoretical and Practical Training for Advocates: Applying International Legal Human Rights Standards".

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Interfax News Agency, 01.04.04 - U.S. financier George Soros told reporters in Kyiv on Wednesday that he and Ukrainian parliamentarian Viktor Pinchuk are planning to create a joint fund to provide legal assistance to citizens in Ukraine. Speaking about the agreement with Pinchuk, Soros said this is the first major contribution of a local philanthropist toward organizing a legal assistance fund.

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Q: "Do you expect any surprises from the presidential election in Ukraine?"

SOROS: "The situation is too intricate, and I can't claim that I grasp it well. What I can say is that in case the constitutional reform succeeds, the presidential election won't matter much. (Even Soros doesn't know who he supports! - T.J.)

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Q: "Have you formed an opinion of Viktor Yanukovych’s government?"

SOROS: "During my visit, I've met Mr. Yanukovych for the first time. Your Prime Minister supported initiatives aimed at strengthening of the law. He claimed that he was aware that there was still enough to be improved. I think his statement was sincere."


15 posted on 11/26/2004 4:29:47 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

"Even Soros doesn't know who he supports!"

Soros is probably still waiting for his marching orders.


16 posted on 11/26/2004 4:33:49 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: Tailgunner Joe; jer33 3; Grampa Dave
George Soros has such an influence. Witness the
U.S. elections, in which he supported Jean Keri .....


The Soros Threat

The Capitalist Threat
(1997 article by Soros)

SOROS SNACKING ON SIDE DISHES
(Soros the Adulterer)

FR Search for Keyword Soros

FR Search for Keyword George Soros


17 posted on 11/26/2004 4:37:53 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: TapTheSource

Nice analysis and caveat.


18 posted on 11/26/2004 5:01:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: TapTheSource

Wow... some interesting stuff on this thread.


19 posted on 11/26/2004 8:02:07 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: Tailgunner Joe; MeekOneGOP; F15Eagle; PhilDragoo
Whoa! Did you guys see this about a possible George Soros hand in the Ukraine elections?

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These are the gangsters pulling the strings. The head of the Soros funded "International Renaissance Foundation" denies that Soros is funding Yushchenko. The group is an election monitor NGO. A message posted on the Maidan website refers the reader to the IRH website http://www.irf.kiev.ua - George Soros does not pay for the campaign against Yanukovych

20 posted on 11/26/2004 8:59:05 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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