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The Sleeping World Is Awakening to the Dangers of Islam
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 27, 2004 | BARBARA STOCK

Posted on 11/26/2004 10:09:05 PM PST by CHARLITE

This past week, I have received many responses from Muslims concerning my two most recent columns: ''Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands'' and ''Here Comes the Arab/Muslim Outrage.''

In one breath, some the writers would call themselves ''intellectuals'' and then accuse me of being a Jew when I put tough questions to them that they could not answer. They maintained that as an American, I just was not intelligent enough to understand Islam. The mistake these ''intellectuals'' made is believing that I have any intention of ''understanding'' Islam.

It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.

If Bin Laden has done one good thing in his wretched life, it was to poke a stick in the eye of the world by bringing his radical beliefs forward and urging his followers to commit violent acts. It has taken some time for people to begin taking a look at Muslims in their own areas, but it is happening. The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''

Approximately 33% of the world is Christian and 20% is Muslim, based on figures for the year 2000. The number of Muslims is growing at an alarming rate. Muslims immigrated to peaceful, mostly Christian countries in Europe where they had large families that were reasonably safe from the ravages of their own strict religious teachings. At least these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years. The mind-control of the clerics over the average Muslim is frightening and total.

This problem is most notable in the smaller European countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden, where a backlash against Islam is growing because of the strict Islamic laws forbidding mingling with the non-Muslim citizens of a country. In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in. The religious leaders lose their total control of the people if those people are allowed to see and experience the freedom that others enjoy. This is why Islam loathes democracy. Democracy steals the power of the Islamic leaders. It gives the people the right to think for themselves and thinking people might start to question their laws. Free people will question the absolute authority and power of the Islamic leaders over every aspect of their lives from birth to often violent death.

These days, it seems that anyone who speaks out against Islam runs the risk of being murdered, as in the case of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh who was shot, stabbed, and then had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the Netherlands. Van Gogh had made documentaries exposing the brutality directed at women under Islam. Now, mosques and Muslim schools have been burned and the normally peaceful Dutch are considering closing their borders at the very least and perhaps even expelling Muslims from their country. As one Dutch citizen said on a blog, ''This country is a free country but we can’t even speak anymore without wondering if some Muslim will murder us.'' The hate and unrest towards the followers of Islam is growing. It is just a rumble now, but it will get louder as the killing and bombing continues across Europe.

A recent report on Fox News showed the hostility growing between the Swedes and their Muslim population. There are Muslim areas where firefighters and emergency personnel will not enter without a police escort because they will be attacked. Firefighters attempting to put out a fire in a mosque were stoned. The anger between these two forces in Sweden is growing and the most liberal country in Europe is contemplating the same action as the Netherlands. It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way. In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.

In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe, Islamic clerics openly troll the streets seeking restless young men to indoctrinate and send out to kill for Islam. They weed out the weaklings by having them view videos of the actual torture and beheadings of human beings complete with the screams of pain and all blood and gore of a nightmare. They watch Islamic ''snuff films.'' This is what will be expected of them as ''warriors'' of Allah.

Here in the United States we have a different set of problems. America is just too large for Islam to overpower by reproduction. It has also been impossible to isolate its followers from the American population and American Muslims are far less likely to follow the path of death and destruction. Here, they take a different tact.

Radical Islam is rampant in the prisons, converting the worst of the worst so that when they leave prison they are unleashed on society as pre-programmed, radical Islamic killing machines. On the outside they appear as average Americans which allow them to move about the country unencumbered and overlooked. These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.

Muslims live in the past where they had their glory days of conquest and power. They often refer to the Crusades, which ended around 1300, as if they happened last year. I am constantly reminded of Wounded Knee and American slavery. Wounded Knee took place in 1890 and slavery ended in the 1860s.

Muslim writers love to point out the Spanish Inquisition, which was an over-reaction to the conquests of Islam in Spain and was just as much political as religious. The Inquisition officially ended in 1834. What they fail to mention is that it was not only Muslims that were persecuted, but Jews and Protestants as well. Muslims always see themselves as the only victims of injustice in the world. Muslims also fail to mention that the Pope tried to intervene and stop the Inquisition but was unable to exert his power on the political machine.

We Catholics look at this period in our history with shame, not pride. Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. Forced conversion is not done out of love, but fear. Islam can control one's body, but it cannot control one's thoughts. Converts that are forced will not stay with Islam. They will leave it at the first opportunity.

This is knowledge that has escaped the Islamics. As they condemn the Spanish Inquisition, Islam is doing the same right now in countries such as Sudan. What Muslims are doing in Sudan is far worse than the Spanish Inquisition. Humanitarian groups estimate that since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine in Sudan at the hands of the Islamic leaders. Anyone refusing to denounce Jesus and accept Islam is executed. Rape is used as a weapon. It seems that all modern-day Islam needs is a coliseum with some lions. Trapped in the past, Muslims call the coalition forces ''crusaders.''

Since the attack on 9/11 here in the United States, the enemy has been exposed. The havens of safety in Afghanistan and Iraq have been taken from the Islamics. In its fury, Islam has made many mistakes. The attacks in Spain and in Bali and murders in the Netherlands and elsewhere have made the world realize that Islam is not just the enemy of America, but the enemy of the entire free world.

Some people were foolishly saying that America deserved to be attacked but when death came to their shores, they were taken aback. They had welcomed Muslims with open arms and this is how they are repaid for their kindness? Some countries are instituting laws that make our Patriot Act pale in comparison. Threatening tapes released by Bin Laden have had the opposite effect.

Instead of cowering, the world is beginning to look Islam in the eye and say, emphatically and collectively: ''NO! This will not be allowed.'' If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.

About the Writer: Barbara is a registered nurse who enjoys writing about politics and current events. She has a website at http://www.republicanandproud.com/

Barbara receives e-mail at dickens502003@yahoo.com


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To: clee1
HALT any further immigration of Middle Eastern Islamics.
DEPORT any non-citizen Muslim, or illegal alien of any ethnicity/religion.
SECURE the borders with barriers/mines/armed troops as necessary.

I totally agree. Can we do this? Are we willing to deal with the PC backlash if we do?

21 posted on 11/26/2004 11:05:58 PM PST by Still German Shepherd (Allah is not God.)
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To: Still German Shepherd
I totally agree. Can we do this? Are we willing to deal with the PC backlash if we do?

Oh we can do this, no problem.

Unfortunetly, the spineless worms in Washington WILL NOT.

Am I wrong?

22 posted on 11/26/2004 11:08:44 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: CHARLITE; F15Eagle; elcid1970; djf; Grampa Dave; Boazo; Smartass; CharlotteVRWC; Coroner; ...
Onward Muslim Soldiers - ping.

(Rabid Dog Coming Your Way.)

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It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.

23 posted on 11/26/2004 11:18:32 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Wormwood
You are right that we can do it. But I repeat there will be a backlash from PCists. Also, look what happens to someone who dares to make a film against Islam, let alone eject Islamics.

Not sure if the politicians can be brought around on this. They are, after all, politicians. Even President Bush won't address this. Maybe he will, now that he is in the second term...

24 posted on 11/26/2004 11:18:54 PM PST by Still German Shepherd (Allah is not God.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Well and factually said. And what does society do with a rabid dog?


25 posted on 11/26/2004 11:20:06 PM PST by Still German Shepherd (Allah is not God.)
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To: CHARLITE

"In short, Muslims do not fit in."

Tells me the author "gets it."

Muslims have no intention of fitting in. They move somewhere, and expect the receiving host to change, to accomodate them, and their diabolical ways.

I'm hoping one by one, countries outlaw their immigration, and various practices.


26 posted on 11/26/2004 11:21:00 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Still German Shepherd
Patterns of Global Terrorism - 2000 Released by the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism

"FANATIC SHEIKH'S VIDEOS OF TERROR "A Nice, Clean War""

By Gary Jones, Chief Reporter Kanchan Dutt And Don Mackay

MUSLIM leader Sheikh Abu Hamza has told young British Supporters that murder, bank robbery and looting are legitimate weapons against the enemies of Islam.

BATTLE CRY: Sheikh Hamza speaking at a Trafalgar Square rally

Secret tapes obtained by the Daily Mirror show how the one-eyed cleric has urged violence at recruitment meetings across Britain - and warned that the infidel should be kept on the run.

Hamza, 44, appearing at an Islamic rally in London yesterday, denied telling followers that it was all right to kill w esterners living and working in foreign lands.

But on one of the six video tapes made at private meetings around the country the fanatic tells impressionable young supporters: "What are they doing there anyway? Most of them are spies.

"Even if they don't do anything - if Muslims cannot take them and sell them in the market - kill them, it's OK."

DANGEROUS TALK: Hamza in a clip from the secret videos obtained by The Mirror

Egyptian-born Hamza, who lost an eye and had both arms blown off by a landmine during the Afghan war against the Russians, is leader of the Supporters of Shariah movement based at the mosque in Finsbury Park, North London.

He has denied recruiting British Muslims into the al-Qaeda terrorist network and claims inflammatory statements attributed to him are fabricated.

But at meetings behind closed doors, he urges followers to take up arms against the infidel.

"We have to push our children to the front line," he said. "Everybody wants his son to be killed like a lion."

Hamza said anyone standing in the way of his Islam would spend their life in fear.

HE warned: "They should always be worried. They should always be on the run. They should always feel insecure."

At a mosque in Birmingham, the sheikh issued another call to arms.

He said: "Why should there be a battle? Why should there be an argument?

"But a struggle means sometimes arguing to convey the message. Even if it means you convey the message by carrying a sword.

"Allah wants to know who will sacrifice for him."

During a question and answer session, Hamza said banks were a Jewish establishment, the work of Satan.

Robbing them and kafirs, or unbelievers, could be acceptable because they were not protected by Allah. He said: "I say go and do it (steal), take shoot and loot.

"Every battle has its purpose. Ours is to put the authority of Allah and humiliate kafir who are challenging the authority of Allah and Muslims.

"Sometimes you will feel too weak to go on, but you say 'I still have some strength to humiliate and kill and remove some of the germs who are making me weak so that people who come after me can carry on with weaker enemies'."

Hamza also backed burglary and theft from non-believers. He said: "I can't see any problem giving yourself a free hand - getting yourself a new car.

"Go for their houses where you can loot and come back. It is like going to the forest and picking up wood from no man's land."

On one video Hamza says it is legitimate to wage war against targets such as the American embassies in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi which were attacked by al-Qaeda in 1998.

The sheikh is also heard giving advice to those joining a jihad, or holy war. He said: "Allah made the contract that a certain kind of believer will fight in the cause of Allah ... they will kill in the cause of Allah.

"Jihad is their fight and it is also an obligation. But some people call this terrorism."

"Jihad is the only way to protect believers. Jihad comes first.

"I do not want you to say 'I believe in one God'. No, no. I want you to make trouble for kafirs.

"Before you can say I believe in you God I want you to put everybody's god in the dustbin.

"And so you insult kafir...you say there is no god except the creator Allah. You start the trouble.

"Allah will never ever allow the kafir to be pleased with you. He created them and he moulded them to be your enemy.

"Jihad is moving up and proving yourself. It is something for you to look for. Go and look for it." The sheikh has been linked to alleged shoe bomber Richard Reid - awaiting trial in America - Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker on September 11 who is on remand in the US, and Feroz Abbasi, from Croydon, South London, who is among the prisoners at Camp X-Ray in Cuba.

Hamza is wanted by America and the Yemen.

Questions are now being asked over why he has not been dealt with under the Terrorism Act 2000 outlawing support for radical Islamic groups and making it a criminal offence to raise funds.

The only time Hamza has been detained was in 1999 when he was questioned by Scotland Yard detectives on suspicion of terrorism offences. He was held for several days and released without charge.

Andrew Dismore, Labour MP for Hendon, North London, has spoken out since September 11 on Hamza's suspected links with terrorists and alleged anti-American comments. He said the videos were "one more argument that it is about time action was taken against Hamza".

The MP added: "I believe he has committed incitement to violence and I find it very difficult to understand why he has not been subject to prosecution.""

A SPOKESWOMAN for the Home Office said she could not comment on the Hamza case, but added: "We are monitoring a number of individuals and organisations.

"The Home Secretary has powers to deport someone who represents a danger to the public good.""

The spokeswoman said someone seen to be inciting the public could warrant a Government investigation.

She added: "If it was seen as a threat, for example, to national security that could be a reason to deport somebody." Scotland Yard said it would be keen to study the tapes to see whether the cleric had broken the law.

At yesterday's rally in Trafalgar Square, Hamza refused to condemn terrorist atrocities against the West and said he backed a jihad: "We support a nice clean war.

"We don't know any war other than a holy war. We are not going to spill blood unnecessarily."

Hamza even claimed New York's Twin Towers collapsed from inside because of "an America-Zionist plot to blame the Muslim world".

He said: "There is no way these buildings could collapse in that manner after three hours.

"Al-Qaeda may have ambitions to do that, but I don't believe they did.

"I'm a trained civil engineer and I know from what I have seen those buildings collapsed from the inside."

The sheikh denied ever urging young Muslims to kill westerners. "I haven't said that," he said. "It is a crude statement. If you leave us alone, we will leave you alone."

Four people were arrested during clashes between rally supporters and far-right demonstrators. Two speakers were also arrested.

Two British National Party supporters were bundled to the ground by police and handcuffed before being led off for public order and breach of the peace offences as a banner proclaiming "Bin Laden is a murderer" was unfurled.

Police, fearing more violence, ordered the rally's blaring speakers turned off.

Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, who has called on Muslims to fight the "evil forces" behind attacks on Osama bin Laden, said: "We are moving towards dangerous times. We can only expect worse."

He denied inciting racial hatred but said any attacks against Iraq would bring retaliation.

27 posted on 11/26/2004 11:23:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe
They are not in their right minds, they are lower than animals, they do not deserve the classification "man." They are monsters.

Good night, time for bed here.

28 posted on 11/26/2004 11:28:57 PM PST by Still German Shepherd
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To: CHARLITE

Help to educate muslims to the truth about their religion. There are no true safe harbors (in real life) for them to question Islam. Fortunately tho, safe harbors for discussion are popping up in cyberspace. Here are two:

http://www.apostatesofislam.com

http://www.faithfreedom.org


29 posted on 11/26/2004 11:30:06 PM PST by 1 spark
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To: CHARLITE

btttttttttttttt


30 posted on 11/26/2004 11:31:21 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: truth_seeker

sounds like a parasite, doesn't it? It leeches off the host - when the host dies, it moves on, stronger than ever.

I say, cut off the host and let the parasite(s) die. Send them back to where they came from.


31 posted on 11/26/2004 11:33:04 PM PST by Smarti Pants (~This American Patriot will never forget !!!~)
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To: CHARLITE
It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way.

One of the tenants of Islam is that where ever they set foot, it is Islamic/Muzlim Land. Their plan is the same as it has been for centuries, take over the world.

In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.

Now ain't that nice. They come in and turn a Capitalistic Country into a third world country, and blame it on the host country. No wonder they want to take over what with that twisted thinking.

They blamed all of that on the West before they came to civilization so if that is the way they want to live with all the oppression and stone-throwing, they have thousands of sq miles of desert in which to live as they want.

They will not be happy until everyone else is as miserable as they are.

32 posted on 11/26/2004 11:35:06 PM PST by Syncro
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To: clee1

Your plan is a good start. ABSOLUTELY there is no good reason why ANY western country is allowing ANY immigration at this point in time. That is the first step, stop the ingress.

Certainly the Dutch have a good idea to strip people of their Dutch citizenship, we can only hope they follow through and begin and continue the promised deportations.

In all reality it will only take a small number of deportations to demonstrate that we in the West are serious about maintaining our culture.

What to do with the rest of them, and in America those like the prison converts, that part I am not sure about. In America we'd have to amend the constitution, my guess is many European countries would not have that problem. I venture that many probably already have some "state religion" even the super liberal ones, like Sweden.

If so, it would be easy to outlaw Islam in those nations, and I would suggest they do that ASAP. This will give them grounds for the re-settlement of their Muslims back to the Muslim world. Let the hordes of asylum seekers be banging on the saudi's door if they like it so much. Convert or get the heck out.


33 posted on 11/26/2004 11:47:18 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: CHARLITE

Europe will now have a problem if they try to clear out Muslim neighborhoods because they are now "Muslim land". their law states that a Muslim cannot sell land to an infidel or Jew. Those neighborhoods are now soveriegn territories of Islam and it will be like Fallujah in every one of those cities. What a nightmare. Detroit and surrounding communities will be the same.


34 posted on 11/26/2004 11:57:00 PM PST by tinamina
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To: Happy2BMe

"We have to push our children to the front line," he said. "Everybody wants his son to be killed like a lion."

Simply WOW.


35 posted on 11/26/2004 11:58:25 PM PST by Zeppelin (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordian.)
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To: Still German Shepherd

Can it be done? Yes.

Are we willing to deal with the PC backlash? I am, but I never gave a flying shiz for "PC" in the 1st place.

The problem is that the political ruling class won't grow the stones necessary to do it unless the citizenry pressure them heavily to do so.


36 posted on 11/27/2004 12:00:27 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: CHARLITE
What IS the solution, I'm asking you?!

Clean your guns and sharpen your knives. This is a war you know?

37 posted on 11/27/2004 12:01:55 AM PST by Bullish
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To: Bullish

The words you're looking for are: Deus Vult. ;-)


38 posted on 11/27/2004 12:03:26 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: CHARLITE
I don't know much about Islam but shouldn't we be going after the perverted version, the "evil" strain, rather than all of the religion? I would like to think that there is also something good to be said about this religion. Doesn't it do what most religions do, which is to give people hope?

I'm sure that in the past American foreign policy was terrible within some of the Arab regions,eg., supporting puppets like the Shah of Iran and whatnot. The Arab people may have good reason to hate us but that is no excuse for 9/11. On the whole, it seems that most religions try to comfort people in their distress. But this particular strain, by proclaiming a holy war and slaughtering innocent people of different faith, goes against the major precepts of other world religions. It's definitely contrary to any belief that there is a just and caring God who wants peace for all of humanity.

I don't know if the problem really is the religion or just the people who interpret it to suit their own twisted ends. As Shakespeare said: the devil can site Scripture for his own purpose.
39 posted on 11/27/2004 12:09:49 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: CHARLITE
Let me drop out of lurking & linking mode to add this:

Islam, The Religion of Peace® ? Click this picture:


Furthermore, I wrote this some time ago- nothing, not a single thing I have seen or witnessed since, has caused me to change my opinion:



The entire West ( dare I say "the civilized World?" ) is locked in a fight to the death with militant Islam.

There will be no second-place winner, no "third way" solution-- it is March or Die time, folks.

It is Us versus an eighth-century "culture" of plunder & pillage, forced religious "conversions," and the mistreatment of women.

The sooner we face up to this fact realistically and quit dancing around PC talking-point nonsense about diversity and tolerance, the better off we'll all be.

We did not pick this fight- which really has roots in Jimmy Carter's appeasement in 1979 of militants- but we had damned well better see it for what it is, and be prepared to face it and finish it.

I'll put it in raw, personal terms-- I don't want Sharia law visited upon my women, and I don't want a goat-roper "culture" infesting my land.

I don't want their vile, nasty, loathsome weapons of mass destruction loosed upon my fair country, either.

They picked the fight, and now it is up to us to finish it- balls to the wall, hammer and anvil, fire and blood and iron... freedom is never, ever free, and the coin you pay it in is men's lives and tears and blood.

What we saw during Gulf War I was our military doctrine ( high tech ) versus Soviet doctrine ( throw a lot of low tech iron at the problem )-- and we all know how that turned out.

What we have just seen in the 3-Week War is Information-Tech,
( What some are calling it Hyperwarfare... )
or 21st Century warfare versus 20th Century...

What I would suggest, and call your attention to, is the fact that we, and Israel, are capable of waging 21st Century warfare, and the entire Arab world is not.

Proven fact, by recent events.

One more thing- this will be a war where we are all called to be warriors- so I suggest to you that the time has come to get hard, and stay hard... it really is the time for Fire and Blood and Iron...


...and I am deadly, utterly serious about my tagline-- do you all recall what America did to the "Thousand-Year Reich?"

40 posted on 11/27/2004 12:11:00 AM PST by backhoe ( Islam has become the 21st century version of Nazism.)
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