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Soros Waging Financial War on U.S.?
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Posted on 11/28/2004 5:30:54 AM PST by shubi

Time magazine has characterized financier George Soros as a "modern-day Robin Hood," who robs from the rich to give to the poor countries of eastern Europe and Russia. It claimed that Soros makes huge financial gains by speculating against western central banks, in order to use his profits to help the emerging post-communist economies of eastern Europe and former Soviet Union, to assist them to create what he calls an "Open Society." The Time statement is entirely accurate in the first part, and entirely inaccurate in the second. He robs from rich western countries, and uses his profits to rob even more savagely from the East, under the cloak of "philanthropy." His goal is to loot wherever and however he can. Soros has been called the master manipulator of "hit-and-run capitalism."

As we shall see, what Soros means by "open," is a society that allows him and his financial predator friends to loot the resources and precious assets of former Warsaw Pact economies. By bringing people like Jeffrey Sachs or Sweden's Anders Aslund and their economic shock therapy into these economies, Soros lays the groundwork for buying up the assets of whole regions of the world at dirt-cheap prices.

The man who broke the Bank of England?

An examination of Soros's secretive financial network is vital to understand the true dimension of the "Soros problem" in eastern Europe and other nations.

(Excerpt) Read more at freerepublic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; currency; financial; kerrydefeat; manipulation; opensociety; soros
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To: srm913

Well if he entered a monastery wouldn't he have to divest himself of all worldly possessions? There are numerous organizations that would welcome his donations. Somehow I think this is just about as likely as me winning the lottery. No, on second thought I think I stand a better chance of winning the lottery than ever seeing old Mr. Soros chanting in a monastery.

One thing for sure, the man is old and his end will come and all the money in the world won't stop death and what comes thereafter.


41 posted on 11/28/2004 6:53:07 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: Eccl 10:2
I agree we need tax restructuring. I am for a national sales tax and transaction tax that totally eliminates the IRS. The government has no business knowing the details of our income. (Have you heard about the new tax form: What was your income___________ Send it in.)

We need to get government completely out of abortion. The federal government has no authority under the Constitution to fund or regulate abortion. The States have no right to fund the murder of children in the womb. If leftists want to kill their children, that is fine with me and God would approve,too. One of the big advantages the Israelites had was their ability to raise many warriors, while the Baal worshipers were sacrificing their children to stone statues.
42 posted on 11/28/2004 6:56:55 AM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: docbnj
"Soros seems to be the type of personality who prefers leaders like Kerry, who can be "good losers."

I believe he likes the type of leaders who will defer to him, or to put it another way the type he can buy. He is a megalomaniac who would like to rule the world. Nothing is as important to him as personal power. He is a dangerous and corrupt person, a perfect Democrat.
43 posted on 11/28/2004 6:58:02 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: Ginifer; shubi; SubMareener
I'm not a Soros expert by any means, but what I have read about him convinces me that he is no Robin Hood on a crusade for the good. If he wants to make trouble in the short run, he can buy cheap dollars and disrupt the financial markets. However, in the long run, Soros has been sort of like a one-man United Way, since at least the early 90s picking and choosing among left wing causes and organizations. I wonder if now he is focusing his resources by directing money to the clintons and funding operations in their interest. According to Richard Poe a Soros-clinton connection is clear with his funding of CAP with $3M in 2003.

Today, [what Richard Poe calls the 'Democrat "digital brownshirt" movement'] is well-funded and tightly disciplined. Its headquarters is the Center for American Progress (CAP), a far-left think tank launched in July 2003. Headed by former Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta and funded with $3 million from George Soros, CAP serves as the premier platform for Hillary Clinton’s political activism.

One of CAP’s missions, according to its charter, is to run "rapid response" media campaigns, for the purpose of debunking and discrediting troublesome press reports. In this respect, CAP’s mission echoes that of the so-called "War Room" which Hillary first operated during the 1992 presidential campaign. According to the Washington Post:

"The war room was set up to gather as much intelligence as possible and quickly turn it to Clinton’s advantage. Campaign advisors tried to anticipate what stories reporters were working on in hopes of shaping those stories before they were written."

Critical to the War Room’s success was James Carville’s so-called "rapid-response team" an elite band of spinmeisters who prided themselves on their ability to intercept a Clinton scandal report at midnight and turn it around to Clinton’s advantage by 7 am the next morning.

44 posted on 11/28/2004 7:02:36 AM PST by cloud8
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To: AndyJackson

Remember. Soros lost over a billion dollars when the IndoChina currency crisis hit.


45 posted on 11/28/2004 7:05:21 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: shubi

"I am for a national sales tax and transaction tax that totally eliminates the IRS."

Be careful about the transaction tax. If implemented as some propose, it becomes a huge obstacle to free flow of efficient investment by taxing all investment transactions, which would grind Wall Street to a halt.


46 posted on 11/28/2004 7:05:37 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray, pray, pray that we as a people are deserving of godly leaders.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

"By this I mean that we are running up enormous and potentially dangerous budget deficits, tear after year after year. In the short-term, we can survive that and use it to attain short-term goals (eg, fund the war on terror), but sooner rather than later we must exercise fiscal restraint."

Although I agree that fiscal restraint is in order, the budget deficit dangers are being overblown. Here's a good explanation from Thomas Sowell

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041125.shtml


47 posted on 11/28/2004 7:10:32 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: shubi
"One of the big advantages the Israelites had was their ability to raise many warriors, while the Baal worshipers were sacrificing their children to stone statues."

A future analysis of political power may read similarly:

One of the big advantages the Republicans had was their ability to raise many voters, while the Democrats were dedicated to killing their children through abortion.

48 posted on 11/28/2004 7:16:22 AM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: shubi

Gold, Eh??? Well, now I'll fix him. I'm going to sell both ounces tomorrow!!


49 posted on 11/28/2004 7:25:02 AM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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To: shubi

Maybe someone could talk Bill Gates into "waging war" on Soros?

:P


50 posted on 11/28/2004 7:29:59 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: JustDoItAlways
Soros has had massive short positions on the US dollar.

And while his friends in the media are beginning to talk down the dollar, he's cashing in and going long. He gains on both the up and the down.

51 posted on 11/28/2004 7:30:29 AM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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To: ALPAPilot
Although I agree that fiscal restraint is in order, the budget deficit dangers are being overblown. Here's a good explanation from Thomas Sowell

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041125.shtml

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Agreed. Good article, good summary.

His very good point is that (to use round and highly estimated but reasonable figures) in a $10 trillion economy, if we grow the economy 4%, that's $400 billion dollars. At a 20% tax rate, that's $80 billion in tax revenue. To Sowell's very good point, if we hold the line on spending, we can grow ourselves out of the deficit in a very few years.

That was the Reagan-Laffer logic of the 80's - but we did not exercise the political will to curb spending. Back then, the Democrats controlled the House, and later, the Senate. The Republicans don't have that excuse now, and they need to deliver.

52 posted on 11/28/2004 7:31:55 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray, pray, pray that we as a people are deserving of godly leaders.)
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To: Constantine XIII
Maybe someone could talk Bill Gates into "waging war" on Soros?

Maybe his next bank statement will be the blue screen of death! :)

53 posted on 11/28/2004 7:33:44 AM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

A 1% or less transaction tax on investment transactions would be far better than the horrors of the current system.


54 posted on 11/28/2004 7:33:55 AM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: shubi
Mr. Soros record is mixed.

Japan is pretty flush right now and has a vested interest in a strong dollar.

Interesting times.

55 posted on 11/28/2004 7:38:05 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: shubi
Soros is certainly basking in media attention of late, hanging out with big name libs...which may be his undoing because the last thing a currency speculator and financier of shady international left wing causes wants is to draw closer scrutiny of himself. The WP reported on a "progressive" conference held in June 2004 called "Take Back America." Attended by Soros and Hillary Rodham (who in fact introduced him), plus the likes of Howard Dean, MoveOn.org President Wes Boyd, Michael Smith (Peace and Freedom Party), Julian Bond, Sen. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.), Arianna Huffington, and Robert Borosage, "co-founder of the Campaign for America's Future, which sponsored the conference with help from such groups as MoveOn.org, Common Cause, People for the American Way and a little mom and pop union outfit called the AFL-CIO."

Sen. Clinton showed up Thursday morning to talk about the 50-year project of conservatives to roll back the New Deal, all while ostensibly introducing the next speaker, billionaire George Soros. Clinton declared that "four more years of the Bush administration would leave our country unrecognizable." Soros was equally grave, if a bit more esoteric, assuring the crowd that the Bush Doctrine is a bubble about to burst.

57 posted on 11/28/2004 7:43:52 AM PST by cloud8
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To: cloud8
Soros associates with anyone/anything that he thinks can/will enable him to gain leverage and "sell" his ideas. People will sell their souls and Soros is willing to buy them.
58 posted on 11/28/2004 8:01:23 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: snowsislander
Mr. Soros record is mixed.

I wish my investment record were as mixed as Soros's.

59 posted on 11/28/2004 8:06:27 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: cloud8

Clinton declared that "four more years of the Bush administration would leave our country unrecognizable."

Yep, there won't be IRS, terrorism will be on the wane and there will not be interns with pizza and thongs in the oval office.

Not to mention, there will not be corruption at every level of government, with our national secrets sold to the highest bidder to finance a leftist campaign.


60 posted on 11/28/2004 8:08:17 AM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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