Posted on 11/28/2004 1:16:50 PM PST by AuntB
Hispanic Conservative: Illegal Immigration Bugs Us November 23, 2004
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RUSH: Grand Rapids, Michigan, this is Jose. Welcome to the program, sir. I'm glad you waited.
CALLER: Thank you. Thank you very much. These are red state dittos. Rush, I could never understand during the campaign, and still don't, why some people believe that this is an issue for the Hispanic community. I've been working for the Hispanic community -- or with the Hispanic community -- for over 25 years, and I write a little column. I'm the only conservative token Hispanic writer around here, and I feel that is the least of the concern in the Hispanic community is immigration and --
RUSH: Wait, wait, wait a minute. Which is the least of the concerns?
CALLER: Illegal immigration or amnesty or any of those programs. Hispanics voted this time around on the issues that everybody else voted: Security, education, values, et cetera. I don't know, and have not talked to, any Hispanic leader or person who brings up the subject of illegal immigration except --
RUSH: Well --
CALLER: -- those organizations that are aligned with the Democratic Party.
RUSH: Well, that's what I was going to say. They certainly do, and a number of votes were peeled off from those groups this time around as you just mentioned. This is interesting because, you know, the conventional wisdom is that it was Bush's immigration position that softened opposition from the Hispanic community and sent them over to him, and you're making just the exact opposite point, that it had nothing to do with it at all. I would conclude from this then, Jose, that -- would you also say that the people you're talking about, Hispanic voters you're talking about, what is their opinion on this immigration bill and the whole concept anyway, now that they're here and they're citizens? What's their opinion of it? CALLER: Well, first of all, I would tell you that we have to be fair, as conservatives, as to how do we label this, whether it's amnesty or not. You know, I know that some people are upset about it and we really have to be very careful. This could go either way. Like I said, they are not very concerned about it. Actually, it is against the interests of Hispanics born in the United States, and even recent legal immigrants, to have to compete against illegal immigrants.
RUSH: Thank you.
CALLER: So they will not support illegal immigration. That doesn't make any sense. Secondly, the thing I have to say to Republicans is that they do not know the Hispanic community. This is not a racial issue. Hispanics do not consider themselves a race. Hispanics are white. They're black. They're mixed. They're of all races and social backgrounds.
RUSH: No, but it's their supporters on the left who try to make this a racial issue, and let me say, there's a genuine fear -- it's understandable fear from people on the right -- because in the past, the fastest way to have your career ruined and the fastest way to be marginalized was to have somebody call you a racist and have it stick. It tarred and feathered people and it's been a trick that the left has used for as long as I've been commentating about such things and they still try today, particularly on this issue, and that's why it's used.
CALLER: Well, at least you don't have to put up with being called a "Hispanic Uncle Tom" and be relegated to have to write on a free shopper newspaper because no media will employ you unless you are writing about Hispanic topics. Or even just look at your Fox network. Look at the major networks. There are no Hispanic pundits that are conservative. There are no Hispanic conservative writers in any major media, and so the 45% of people who actually step up and voted for Bush are not represented anywhere that I can think of.
RUSH: Hmm. Well, that's interesting and it's probably true. I think it's an interesting point of view, Jose. I'm glad you called. I appreciate your time on this. You know, it stands to reason. This just goes to show how easily we all fall for the conventional wisdom. "Ooooh Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote! It must be because he has this position supporting whatever, the quasi-amnesty, whatever you want to call it, for illegals," and apparently it may not be true.
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Last week Laura Ingraham stated on her show that the Republican elite are not worried about the best interests of the USA. Michael Reagan, Michelle Malkin and many others have written recently to warn of the problems of illegal immigration and another "amnesty"
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Rep. J.D. Hayworth was on CNN this morning trying to convey why he and other republican congressmen are trying to get border/immigration provisions in the intelligence bill as recommended by the 911 commission and the 911 Families for a Safe America.
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In contrast to past centuries, immigration levels are no longer closely tied to the business cycle. This does not mean that economic factors are entirely irrelevant. The higher standard of living in the United States compared with those in most sending-countries almost certainly plays an important role in encouraging immigration. But a much higher standard of living exists even during a recession. Moreover, people come to America for many reasons, including to join family, avoid social or legal obligations, take advantage of America’s social services, and enjoy greater personal and political freedom. Thus, even a prolonged economic downturn is unlikely to have a large impact on immigration levels. It also must be remembered that there has been no major change in the selection criteria used or numerical limits placed on legal immigration, even after the 9/11 attacks. Moreover, immigration enforcement efforts have actually become more lax in recent years.1 Lowering immigration levels would require enforcement of immigration laws and changes to the legal immigration system."
Everyone should read this recent report. One amazing chart shows periods of slowed economy vs. immigration. Immigration has always gone down in those times, not so this time. Illegals are taking the jobs of American citizens.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1287036/posts?page=18
For those who think that all Hispanics favor uncontrolled illegal immigration (not you, MO!!!)
Interesting take from a loud mouth Bush Shill who hob nobbed the talk show circuit shamelessly promoting Bush as such a great president. Lots a luck trying to hold this One's feet to fire now that he no longer has to worry about an election...as if that stopped him from making his open borders agenda crystal clear in the first term.
I completely agree. Michelle's book, In Defense of Internment, details the WWII policy, and makes the case for tightening down on illegal immigration.
CALLER: Well, at least you don't have to put up with being called a "Hispanic Uncle Tom" and be relegated to have to write on a free shopper newspaper because no media will employ you unless you are writing about Hispanic topics. Or even just look at your Fox network. Look at the major networks. There are no Hispanic pundits that are conservative. There are no Hispanic conservative writers in any major media, and so the 45% of people who actually step up and voted for Bush are not represented anywhere that I can think of. "
I voted for Pres. Bush. I'd do it again. There are times for 3rd party candidates, and my hope is they will be a force in the future, as they have been in our past history, ie abolition, womens right to vote, etc. This election was not one of those times. Single issue voting is a dangerous exercise.
There actually is a conservative Spanish radio network popping up. I think it's "Radio Nuevo" or something similar on AM 1390 in L.A. I saw a bumper sticker for it but my memory has innacuracies.
This is true. More true than Republicans realize and more true than Democrats hope. I work with a lot of Mexican-Americans (contrary to my screen name I am Irish-American), and illegal immigration bothers them. However, since many of them have family in Mexico, the ability to visit and be visited by family, in Mexico or here, is a real concern. The party that catches onto this fact and provides for this concern, will get a larger portion of the "Hispanic" vote. To be able to visit "mi Padre` y mi Madre`, when they are sick, esta` muy importante`.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
Do you believe the intelligence reform bill must contain a provision that prevents illegal aliens from obtaining driver's licenses?
Yes 88% 1247 votes
No 12% 177 votes
Total: 1424 votes
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They are.
Visiting isn't a problem, if you do it a lot, just get a visa on a passport. I know someone from Brazil that spends just about all her vacation time here and renews the visa my mail in Brazil.
That's good news! We have many hispanic Americans here on FR who don't like the illegal invasion either. And we have a handful of the elites who could care less as long as it is profitible for the moment for them.
I know. Mexican-Americans don't like the recent wave of males cabrones coming around where they live. They are bums just like any other, except they happen to come from the south.
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