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Twisting The Light Away [Twisted Light]
New Scientist | June 12, 2004 | Stephen Battersby

Posted on 11/29/2004 4:39:07 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker

My brain just exploded trying to understand the article.


21 posted on 11/29/2004 5:54:42 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: BobS
I was thinking the same thing but polarization has more than two states. There are only two circular polarization states but there are two other polarizations vertical and horizontal polarizations. I think the writer of this article has a weak background in Quantum physics and is using terms out of context...
22 posted on 11/29/2004 6:14:15 PM PST by hereandnow
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To: crazyhorse691
And I do know how to turn a flashlight on and off.

I thought that was an odd example of a way to send binary code -- how would you send two "offs" in a row?

;)

23 posted on 11/29/2004 6:23:09 PM PST by forsnax5 (The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
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To: tet68

"This could be the humble beginning".

Bingo.

If Lucent, Juniper, and NORTEL can figure out how to make this kind of optical comm technology work over the existing fiber backbone, WOW!

Gig-e to your front door.


24 posted on 11/29/2004 6:24:45 PM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: hereandnow
Vertical and horizontal polarizations are linear- E-plane and H-plane in uW transmission; it's the most common radar. Circular polarization, either right-circ. or left circ. rotates the beam at a 45 deg angle, so you have a 3 dB drop in power, but it works very well by penetrating rain, like an MC-130 Ku band pencil or shaped beam antenna.

The property talked about here discusses angular velocity of photons in a circumference inside a projection. I printed this out to read later in bed. My idea may change, but the discussion of a polarizer makes me think I am pretty close!

25 posted on 11/29/2004 6:40:15 PM PST by BobS
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To: BobS

These are circularly polarized EM waves. The article is goofy.


26 posted on 11/29/2004 7:10:30 PM PST by spunkets
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To: DUMBGRUNT
It seems to me that since the speed of light is fixed, it can not change the time to take the helical path as opposed to the straight path.
27 posted on 11/29/2004 7:10:42 PM PST by sd-joe
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To: Rose in RoseBear
ping...
28 posted on 11/29/2004 7:11:09 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: spunkets
"These are circularly polarized EM waves. The article is goofy."

That is why I read these things before I sleep. During the next day sometime, I will remember it in the form of an idea. It hasn't failed in 20 years. I found a fix for countless problems that way, and all you have to do is lay around all night.

29 posted on 11/29/2004 8:08:01 PM PST by BobS
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To: BobS
" The property talked about here discusses angular velocity of photons in a circumference inside a projection."

Their analogy is to a charged particle moving in a circular motion. Photons don't orbit, 'cept maybe around a black hole of a certain size. Then the angular momentum carried by the generated circularly polarized wave is = rx(ExB)/c. More generally the angular momentum(l) is =Power/omega, where omega is the angular frequency of polarization. So the beam carriers l/unit area = ExB/omega/unit area. See this

30 posted on 11/29/2004 8:22:49 PM PST by spunkets
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 11/29/2004 8:53:37 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: spunkets
I know those things. But we are doing low-level measurements of power, if it is to be useful. Let's bring it to satellite levels illuminating the Earth. Those are typically -95 to -105 dBm on the surface before you preamp and demodulate them.

You need a noise figure measurement to characterice your system(s). You know, N = kTB where you filter out the microwave background radiation. And you deal with S/N ratio which can be corrupted by sunlight, so you get out in the middle of the night when the sun is on the opposite side from you to do this.

These people created a transmission form with an open end.

What is the reciever form?

32 posted on 11/29/2004 8:56:12 PM PST by BobS
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To: PeaceBeWithYou; agitator

Thought y'all might find this interesting if you hadn't seen it before.


33 posted on 11/29/2004 9:00:04 PM PST by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: spunkets
Then the angular momentum carried by the generated circularly polarized wave is = rx(ExB)/c. More generally the angular momentum(l) is =Power/omega, where omega is the angular frequency of polarization. So the beam carriers l/unit area = ExB/omega/unit area.



Uh, yeah, what you said.

34 posted on 11/29/2004 9:01:00 PM PST by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: LibWhacker

No graphics and no link to the original article. Shame! Back to Posting 101 for you.


35 posted on 11/29/2004 9:07:46 PM PST by neuron2
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To: mikrofon
Twisto World


36 posted on 11/29/2004 9:18:07 PM PST by AndrewC (New Senate rule -- Must vote on all Presidential appointments period certain.)
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bump to read several times and try and understand


37 posted on 11/29/2004 9:20:52 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LibWhacker

But, will it corkscrew the other direction in Australia?


38 posted on 11/29/2004 9:32:19 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: LibWhacker
Beam me up:

If you could stand on a wave crest and walk around the beam, after one complete circuit you would find yourself standing one wavelength away from where you started.

39 posted on 11/29/2004 10:48:06 PM PST by GOPJ (M.Dowd...hits..like a bucket of vomit with Body Shop potpourri sprinked across the surface--Goldberg)
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To: LibWhacker

Circular polarization.


40 posted on 11/30/2004 5:55:00 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th% (Bush wins!!!)
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