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Daily Kommersant reports Russian troops in Ukraine
Kyiv Post (Ukraine) ^
| Nov 29, 2004
| PAUL MIAZGA
Posted on 11/30/2004 1:45:26 AM PST by AdmSmith
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The source stated that each plane, after landing, was then loaded with sensitive documents from the Presidential Administration, the SBU and other departments before taking off again, bound for Moscow.
We have seen this before in Iraq...
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posted on
11/30/2004 1:45:27 AM PST
by
AdmSmith
To: Dog; Coop; Cap Huff; Boot Hill; jeffers; nuconvert; Snapple
The rats took the documents when they left.
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posted on
11/30/2004 1:47:41 AM PST
by
AdmSmith
To: AdmSmith
Funny that they can just change uniforms. Kinda makes a lie of the colapse of the Russian Empire.
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posted on
11/30/2004 2:08:18 AM PST
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: AdmSmith
So, if they are taking the secret documents, does that mean they expect to lose control of Ukraine soon?
This would be a good sign, no?
On the other hand, the hundreds of Russian spetsnaz dressed in Ukraine uniform, would be a bad sign, no?
In a way, Osama did us a favor, as did the Japanese at Pearl Harbor. He reawakened us to the dangers of tyranny that are always with us.
The leftists have a point when they say that "values" were the key to their recent election losses here in the States. Even though the War on Terror and related military, war and security issues scored higher in the exit polls, still the greatest danger to the leftists is the reawakening of understanding that freedom is founded on, and totally dependent on, individual responsibility and morality, which must derive from faith in a higher moral order.
As noted in another post, Right and wrong: Joseph Farah on what ails America, what needs to be done, a few minutes ago, a moral order based on the Golden Rule is essential to liberty. The subversion of all the institutions of society, whether it be to some variant of Marxism or Socialism, or to Radical Islam, so that they turn from supporting that essential moral order, to instead destroying it, is the way to tyranny, and the death of freedom.
In so many places at once, it seems that freedom hangs precariously in the balance.
Were times always this tense, or is it that I am just beginning to notice?
I wish the Ukrainians well.
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posted on
11/30/2004 2:13:27 AM PST
by
ThePythonicCow
(Welcome home, Vietnam Vets.)
To: ThePythonicCow
So, if they are taking the secret documents, does that mean they expect to lose control of Ukraine soon?
Yes.
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posted on
11/30/2004 2:44:15 AM PST
by
AdmSmith
To: AdmSmith
Wow, 800 Russian Spetznaz dressed in Ukrainian uniforms! Plane loads of sensitive documents spirited out to Moscow! If this is all true, then this would have more than a faint odor of Stalin about it!
I also might be tempted to quip that Colonel Lyashenko sure had a pair hanging, but that's probably not true any longer!
--Boot Hill
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posted on
11/30/2004 3:36:08 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
(Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
To: AdmSmith
Hopefully this means the Russians are going to abandon their stooges, grab the evidence and get out of Dodge.
I also read Spetznaz were in a country of Western Ukraine--Ivano-Frankovsk. Of course, it is hard to know what is rumor and what is true.
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posted on
11/30/2004 3:41:21 AM PST
by
Snapple
To: Snapple
Correct previous post to read "county" of Western Ukrain, not country.
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posted on
11/30/2004 3:43:02 AM PST
by
Snapple
To: AdmSmith
This just shows how stupid Putin's KGB methods are.
The next move will be to shut down their gas and freeze them into submission.
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posted on
11/30/2004 3:46:18 AM PST
by
Snapple
To: Snapple
... and make FBS detonate a few bombs and blame the opposition.
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posted on
11/30/2004 3:55:51 AM PST
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AdmSmith
To: AdmSmith
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posted on
11/30/2004 3:56:18 AM PST
by
AdmSmith
To: Snapple
a malfunctioning Dita Beard machine ?
http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/28.html?id_issue=10725481
Fire breaks out in FSB headquarters
MOSCOW. Nov 29 (Interfax-Moscow) - A small fire was reported in the Russian Federal Security Service headquarters on Moscow's Lubyanka Square on Monday afternoon, a source in the State Fire-Fighting Service's branch for Moscow told Interfax.
Sixteen fire-fighting units were involved in extinguishing the fire on the eighth story of the building, the source said.
The fire was brought under control at 4:10 p.m. and put out a few minutes later.
The source blamed the incident on an office equipment malfunction.
There has been no word on injuries.
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posted on
11/30/2004 4:03:14 AM PST
by
AdmSmith
To: Snapple
There is no such thing as "county" of Western Ukrain".
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posted on
11/30/2004 5:47:28 AM PST
by
Mi-kha-el
((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
To: Calpernia; Velveeta; Revel; liberallyconservative; DAVEY CROCKETT
First thought was look at all the documents they are taking back to Russia.
Second is the fact that the Russians flew in 800 troops and had them change into Ukrainian uniforms.
It isn't nice to have to deal with Russia
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posted on
11/30/2004 6:14:59 AM PST
by
nw_arizona_granny
(Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
To: AdmSmith
Merely Putin trying to secretly rebuild the Soviet Union...but this time it seems he got busted. If you haven't been paying attention, he
rigged his own election and has installed all his
FSB(successor to the KGB) buddies in his administration. And more recently, he changed the law so that Russian Governors and other formerly elected officials are now
appointed by him. He also
rigged a referendum in Belarus in October (see para 4) which made Alexander Lukashenko, who already has agreed to reunite his country with Russia, the equivalent of President for life. Some prophecy sites have touted Putin as the AntiChrist who will return Russia to Hitler-like control and also regain control over the former Soviet countries, which, it is evident he has been trying to do. I don't know if I would go *that* far (in calling him the AC), but I do believe he is an evil man that deserves to be watched carefully.
To: spetznaz
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posted on
11/30/2004 10:55:55 AM PST
by
nuconvert
(Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
To: nuconvert
Yep. You know we S'naz are everywhere! LOL.
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posted on
11/30/2004 11:06:18 AM PST
by
spetznaz
To: blackminorcapullets; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; LibertyRocks; devolve; Polak z Polski; Cutterjohnmhb; ..
To: LibertyRocks
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posted on
11/30/2004 4:38:12 PM PST
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MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
To: LibertyRocks; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; Grampa Dave; potlatch; devolve
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posted on
11/30/2004 7:11:12 PM PST
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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