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A Stem Cell Christmas Miracle?
Reason ^ | December 1, 2004 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 12/02/2004 10:26:36 AM PST by neverdem

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Matrix cells from Wharton's jelly form neurons and glia.

Reason's link didn't work. Here you can access the entire article, not just it's abstract and related links.

1 posted on 12/02/2004 10:26:37 AM PST by neverdem
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What's amazing is after two decades most people don't have the muscles to physically walk nor the memory in their nervous system to know how to walk. There's got to be more to this story.
2 posted on 12/02/2004 10:32:41 AM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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This was posted days ago.

This woman may well have been able to walk on her own. There is no proof that any stem cell miracle is at work here. This is National Enquirer tabloid stuff.


3 posted on 12/02/2004 10:35:36 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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"harvested embryonic stem cells from blood taken from umbilical cords"

Here's the secret of this story. If the cells can be taken from the umbilical cord, there's no reason to kill the baby.

4 posted on 12/02/2004 10:39:24 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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Here's the secret of this story. If the cells can be taken from the umbilical cord, there's no reason to kill the baby.

Exactly! Also, and I've said this for years, there is far more value in learning how to create stem cells from mature cells (so that one can use them without fear of rejection) than from using stem cells from another person.

5 posted on 12/02/2004 10:44:37 AM PST by WileyC
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This author is wrong in his premise if he thinks this will "re-ignite" the embryonic stem cell debate. To the contrary, it should be one more nail in its coffin.

Those who oppose embryonic stem cell use support the use of stem cells from umbilical cords and placenta, as well as adult stem cells. That's the point -there are nondestructive alternatives that actually show more promise than embryonic stem cells.


6 posted on 12/02/2004 10:49:14 AM PST by almcbean
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"harvested embryonic stem cells from blood taken from umbilical cords"
Here's the secret of this story. If the cells can be taken from the umbilical cord, there's no reason to kill the baby.


Right on. I wonder if John Edwards has received notification of this?


7 posted on 12/02/2004 10:56:37 AM PST by taxesareforever
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8 posted on 12/02/2004 10:57:37 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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This was posted days ago.

This story from Reason was posted?

9 posted on 12/02/2004 10:59:47 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


10 posted on 12/02/2004 11:01:40 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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This was posted days ago. This is National Enquirer tabloid stuff.

Same case, but a different source with more information. Don't be so hasty with regards to possible breakthroughs.

Thanks for keeping me updated, 'neverdem'.

11 posted on 12/02/2004 11:08:41 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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If the cells can be taken from the umbilical cord, there's no reason to kill the baby.

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner here! I read that if they saved the "embryonic stem cells" from the umbilical cord (and maybe placenta, but I don't know), they would have all the lines they need for ANY and ALL stem cell research as well as banking for future medical needs. No reason to kill babies to "harvest" these stem cells.

12 posted on 12/02/2004 11:12:05 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Republican revolutionaries are going to be the means of salvation of this nation.)
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This isn't about debate. These scientists are working on possible cures. Their work has and will continue with or without the political, religious and social bickering.


13 posted on 12/02/2004 11:13:08 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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We don't use the word "embryonic" to refer to cord stem cells.

"Embryonic" stem cells are plenipotent cells from a very early stage of division. You must kill a baby to get them. Cord stem cells are multipotent cells from the umbilical cord - they are like adult stem cells, but they are easy to get at.


14 posted on 12/02/2004 11:53:18 AM PST by agere_contra
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We don't use the word "embryonic" to refer to cord stem cells.

I know. ;^)

15 posted on 12/02/2004 11:58:46 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: agere_contra

The point is that the treatment is using umbilical cord stem cells. Embryonic cells have never shown 1/10th the promise.


16 posted on 12/02/2004 12:02:58 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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The researchers say they harvested embryonic stem cells from blood taken from umbilical cords

By definition, those are adult stem cells.

17 posted on 12/02/2004 12:20:11 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Here's the secret of this story. If the cells can be taken from the umbilical cord, there's no reason to kill the baby.

These are, by definition, adult stem cells. The author is redefining words to confuse the issue.

18 posted on 12/02/2004 12:21:22 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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If I weren't so familiar with the technical illiteracy of journalists from years of sending in corrections to firearms reporting, I might suspect a conspiracy to blur the distinction between the various types of stem cells by the embryo-dismembering lobby.


19 posted on 12/02/2004 12:22:19 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Would you please add me to your ping list?

Thank You, this is good stuff.


20 posted on 12/02/2004 12:34:32 PM PST by IncredibleHulk (Courage is the Price that Life extracts for granting Peace. –Anne Morrow Lindberg)
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