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Media Hype On Cabinet Resignations Is Pure LIBERAL Media Bias [Rather Lies, But The Numbers Don't]

Posted on 12/03/2004 7:41:09 PM PST by Doctor Raoul

When the eigth member of Bush's cabinet resigned post-election, the mainstream liberal media went into their Friday Follies mode and made it sound like it was another one for the "body count".

The mainstream liberal media has become McNamara's Pentagon. Fixated on a body count and doing anything to hype it.

With the old dinosaur media wringing their hands over the "turnover" in the Bush cabinet, I went to www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0878421.html and looked up G. W. Bush's cabinet members and then all the cabinets back to Eisenhower.

The numbers below are accurate as of today with the eight resignation.

For every President, I took the total number of Cabinet Officers, divided by the total number of Cabinet Offices (which increased over the years), and divided that by the number of years that President served.

That yields "Yearly Turnover per Position", a fair way of comparing Presidents that served different numbers of years and had different numbers of positions.

Here's the results:

President Yearly Turnover Bush 33%
Clinton 26%
G. H. W. Bush 38%
Reagan 32%
Carter 40%
Ford 64%
Nixon 52%
Johnson 36%
Kennedy 65%
Eisenhower 26%

Since the eight replacememts won't be confirmed until during the fifth year of Bush's Presidency, I divided by five. If you insist on using four years, don't count those eight as "turnover", they haven't been confirmed yet.

Only Clinton, Reagan and Eisenhower, all two full term Presidents, had less "turnover".

Bush is still lower than the "One Term" presidents and if the new guys stay any length of time, his percentage turnover gets even lower.

Bottom line is this, on a scale of one to ten, Bush ranks fourth, better than six of the last ten Presidents.

And that folks is why ABC's Terry Moran is Terry Moron.


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KEYWORDS: ammo; bush43; deceit; mediabias; resignation; term2
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1 posted on 12/03/2004 7:41:09 PM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Doctor Raoul
President Yearly Turnover

Clinton 26%
Eisenhower 26%
Reagan 32%
Bush 33%
Johnson 36%
G. H. W. Bush 38%
Carter 40%
Nixon 52%
Ford 64%
Kennedy 65%

2 posted on 12/03/2004 7:44:59 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Good job. I'm going to bookmark this one.


3 posted on 12/03/2004 7:45:24 PM PST by eyespysomething ("Life has a flavor the prote I'm a tagline virus, please copy me int)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I just love the fact that anybody can devise a formula to validate their agenda. /sarcasm

And the Liberal/Democrat/Communist's will keep on trying while the rest of America see's their game and laughs. HAHA

4 posted on 12/03/2004 7:48:52 PM PST by rocksblues (No more Kerry, no more polls!)
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To: eyespysomething

Thanks. I think as they stay, Bush's numbers will go down below Bubba's. What that frost the boot licking liberal media "reporters"...


5 posted on 12/03/2004 7:50:35 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: rocksblues
I just love the fact that anybody can devise a formula to validate their agenda. /sarcasm

Curious as to who's "formula" you are questioning?

6 posted on 12/03/2004 7:52:30 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Well, what's GW's comparative record on cabinet members forced to resign or die because of scandals?
7 posted on 12/03/2004 7:53:24 PM PST by bayourod (Bush said. "Let's see if I can say it as plainly as I can: I am for the intelligence bill.")
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To: Doctor Raoul
What do you expect from ABC?

I have not seen any of those alphabet channels in years. I never see it, so I can't get upset.

Works for me!

8 posted on 12/03/2004 7:53:25 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Doctor Raoul

The MSM also fails, intentionally, to mention their efforts to demonize any person who served under Bush. No matter how successful, no matter what the conditions, the MSM was always there, attack mode and firing blindly. Hits were irrelevant, the number of shots was what was important.


9 posted on 12/03/2004 7:53:37 PM PST by Trepz
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To: Doctor Raoul

Hey, Cabinet Officers for conservative presidents have to leave mega-monied jobs to serve, take massive amounts of heat from Rats and the MSM, and give up everything to serve an HONEST President.

...Just the opposite when serving a piece of trash president and happily scooping up illegal monies in back door deals. It sure beats a lowly professor's job!


10 posted on 12/03/2004 7:54:28 PM PST by Humidston (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1282122/posts - Blood on the Potomac!)
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To: bayourod
Well, what's GW's comparative record on cabinet members forced to resign or die because of scandals?

Check that page at infoplease.com and you can get the names. At the bottom of that page, you can "go back" to the last President, and there, "go back" even further.

You'd have to be familar with who's who and why.

My main point in this was to show that the turnover in the administration is not excessive like the LIBERAL media is trying to paint it.

11 posted on 12/03/2004 7:57:59 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: Doctor Raoul

The GAO has a report out on this too, I assume. lol ;-)


12 posted on 12/03/2004 7:58:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Trepz
Hits were irrelevant, the number of shots was what was important.

Like Rush says, "Liberals want credit for their intentions, not results."

13 posted on 12/03/2004 7:59:44 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: Cold Heat

My oldest son had no idea who Dan Rather or CBS News was when rathergate broke. but he can have an informed conversation about current events. Amazing isn't it?


14 posted on 12/03/2004 8:01:04 PM PST by eyespysomething ("Life has a flavor the prote I'm a tagline virus, please copy me int)
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To: NormsRevenge
The GAO has a report out on this too, I assume. lol ;-0

When you get down to it, GAO's job is to ask questions, not provide answers. She's a big wheel there now.

I once got to see a GAO type where the roles were reversed. They had to answer the questions about how GAO didn't understand the business of what GAO had be tasked to examine and had drawn a number of really bad conclusions.

It wasn't pretty, but she was a good sport about it.

Unfortunately, the 911 Commission is a lot like the GAO. A little better staffed, but still, they blow in, blow up and then blow out. And who's left still having to do the job?

15 posted on 12/03/2004 8:05:23 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: Doctor Raoul
And who's left still having to do the job?

That's why folks like you and others here are here, I reckun. ;-) Thanks!

16 posted on 12/03/2004 8:07:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Good work Doc

Can there be any doubt that the girly men of the Old Media are apoplectic that Rummy is going to hang around?

Panties in a knot time for those wannabe relevent anchor farm boys.

17 posted on 12/03/2004 8:11:46 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Why is turnover considered bad? It can be good or bad,depending on the case. If it results in a more competent person filling the cabinet post, it is probably good (unless it reflects poor decision making in previously choosing the person being replaced. Lack of turnover can certainly be bad if it is caused by the President not having the courage to fire a poor cabinet member.


18 posted on 12/03/2004 8:16:52 PM PST by olrtex
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To: Doctor Raoul

I'm curious why you would include presidents other than those elected to two terms. There are only 5 of those from the list: Ike, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and now, Bush. All the others replaced sitting cabinet members from a previous administration not their own. The issue is one of cabinet members from a first term not returning for a second. Bush looks about average by your numbers from that more realistic assessment.

JFK never finished his first term. LBJ only stood for election once. Even though Ford served as president, he lost to Carter as the "incumbent" having never assumed the office through election. Carter lost a reelection bid as did GHWB.


19 posted on 12/03/2004 8:19:05 PM PST by DaGman
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To: Doctor Raoul
"Thanks. I think as they stay, Bush's numbers will go down below Bubba's. What that frost the boot licking liberal media "reporters"..."

Speaking of Bubba, how many SecStates had he churned through by end of his first term? Three?

20 posted on 12/03/2004 8:24:41 PM PST by Oblongata
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