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The Islamization of Europe?
Commentary Mag ^ | 12/2/04 | David Pryce-Jones

Posted on 12/05/2004 4:06:02 AM PST by ml1954

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To: Fred Nerks
NO ARABS-NO TERROR. I believe she is right.

As they say in red states (USA)...the horse has left the barn.

61 posted on 12/05/2004 4:41:03 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: ml1954

That was a very excellent essay. The Europeans find themselves in the position that our very own lefties in America would find themselves in if all of their wishes came true - everything politically correct, no God anywhere, only Muslim history taught in schools and no violent or legal action taken against any Muslims regardless of what they did.

America has enough sensible thinking people around who would not let that happen however Europe is beyond recovering their former identity - whatever that was. They are like empty beer cans floating down the river of Muslimism.


62 posted on 12/05/2004 5:06:03 PM PST by matchwood
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To: weenie

See #34 Stats posted by Happy2BMe. Fascinating. Did you notice, 25% of 2 million is the number of arabs associated with a mosque?

=500.000. Right?

Spread amongst 1209 mosques. All of them undoubtedly funnelling wahabbe money and wahabbe poison.


64 posted on 12/05/2004 5:28:18 PM PST by Fred Nerks (understand evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD on pdf. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: ml1954; jan in Colorado; weenie
ml1954: I just finished reading Ben Stein's (and Phil DeMuth's) book 'Can America Survive?' and highly recommend it. In the intro he outlines a scenario of what it would have been like after Pearl Harbor if FDR's political opposition had behaved the way the Left has towards GWB after Sept. 11. Basically, he doubts we would have won WWII. If we have trouble staying united after Sept 11, what would happen in Europe? Bin Laden and his pals have to be asking themselves this question.

Good point, considering the left both politically and ideologically is running rampant and more or less unrestrained thru much of EUrope.

The blinded and hypocritical view of the EUro leftists like London Mayor Ken Livingstone who will set aside his pro-gay mantra so he can welcome terror lover Yusuf al-Qaradawi with opens arms, or the Spanish that will remove statues of St. James Matamoros (“the Moor slayer”) from view or King Ferdinand III from fiesta celebrations is mind boggling.

Combine this clueless self enforced Dhimmitude with the Islamic influx and their high birth rates, and you have a recipe for disaster. I think Sam Huntington illustrated the latter well in "Clash of Civilizations." Moving on from the scenario Huntignton described to Bat Ye'ors scenarios of self sensorship and promotion of all things Islamic over the indigenous in "Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide" appears to be the track EUrope has set itself on right now.

However, this relies a lot on the fact that the bind and hypoctitical policies of the last few decades remain in force, and this is not so certain. The more they open their eyes (like the Dutch) and get to see what Islam really is, close up, and the more trouble the Koranimals cause, the more people will wake up and change.

I'm convinced of this when I remember some of the things the locals said to me when I visited places where large concentratiions of Muslims live with non-Muslims, such as India, where Hindus and Muslims have been living in close quarters for generations. Most Hindus know exactly how evil Islam is and sayings like "never trust a Muslim" come from the lips of everyone from the "chattering classes" down to "the great unwashed." I hope that Europe too will wake up, before they have to endure the kind of conflict with Islam and bloodbaths India has seen.

As other posters have noted... if an attack anything like 9/11 happens in EUrope, I seriously hope the EUro Muslims will look back at the period culminating in the Dutch mosque burnings in 2004 as the good 'ole days.

65 posted on 12/05/2004 5:28:26 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Fred Nerks
That's exactly like Islam and Dhimmitude. Other similarities include the insane hatred for Jews, and goal of global domination and territorial conquest, and a crazy belief in their own superiority over others as "inferior" so they must converted, and if this is not possible, killed.
66 posted on 12/05/2004 5:37:07 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF; jan in Colorado
Oh, speaking of India... I just saw this post by velocityguy which demonstrates what I just said clearly.
67 posted on 12/05/2004 5:45:14 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF
I read that post by velocityguy earlier and thought it provided even more fuel for the fire...I think the internet is going to be a powerful tool in defeating these Satanists.

Actually, they make American Satanists look like punk rockers in a high school band.

68 posted on 12/05/2004 5:52:36 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Goodgirlinred

"guess who will have to go in and save the Franchises hides?"

Why? I wouldn't sacrifice my son to help them. They can sort this mess out themselves and if they fail....I guess they had better start learning to pray facing Mecca.
I will regret the destruction that the Muslims will do to the great cathedrals. I am sure they will give them the same treatment they gave the famous Buddha statues a few years ago.


69 posted on 12/05/2004 5:57:34 PM PST by kalee
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To: Happy2BMe

'Global Threat'

Thanks for the ping. I've saved it. Protest Warrior HQ.
Incredible.


70 posted on 12/05/2004 6:21:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks (understand evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD on pdf. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: kalee

I would not want you to sacrifice your son nor would I want to sacrifice any of my family. But the United States has always come to their aid in times of crisis. We sure have done a lot to repay them for helping us in the Revolutionary War. Their genes sure have been watered down since then.

Of course this would be sort of like WWII. We would be fighting a common threat.


71 posted on 12/05/2004 6:45:35 PM PST by Goodgirlinred (Four More Years!!! Goodgirlinred)
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To: Goodgirlinred

I saw that movie and it made a big impression. Wish some network would show it on TV right now!


72 posted on 12/06/2004 7:44:28 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: potlatch

I do, too. Sometimes today's enemies were yesterday's best allies and the other way around. But we all seem to band together when faced with a common threat. When these terrorists really start hitting the European countries like they have us, then we will all band together as brothers and sisters again in a common fight. That is what we really need in order to remove these monsters from the earth.


73 posted on 12/06/2004 9:18:34 PM PST by Goodgirlinred (Four More Years!!! Goodgirlinred)
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To: Goodgirlinred

I agree with you and I think it's already happening in a few countries. I don't wish bad things on anyone but I hope France and Germany get the message!


74 posted on 12/06/2004 9:24:04 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: potlatch; All

I think the euros are realizing whats going on with muslims in their countries. The politicians playing to the vocal minorities ignore the timid majorities and are setting themselves for a beating when someone steps out in support of an "un-popular" idea that the majority supports but the minority abhors like immigration controls. Shining example is Belgium and Netherlands is the 2nd chain reaction. My guess in one or two election cycles there will be swings of tremendous proportions ergo Le-Pen will begin having some success in france (or if he dies and someone with better charisma and ideas comes they will start surging). We all know the Block in Belgium will eventually become a majority either in 1 or 2 election cycles for sure. Also Netherlands is having an accelerated wake up call.

My thoughts are not as dim as the demographic experts that predict the extinction of western civilization by low birth rates. For one I m optimistic about fear and the effect of it stimulating people. Ergo have more kids. Also I m guessing living in a mixed environment provides incentive for propogation in order to secure continuity of someone like you. For example I remember watching news about Israel and they were talking to a guy whos fifty or so about faimilies and he said that when he and his wife were thinking about kids they thought maybe one or two but later decided to have more ergo four because of terror and factors steming out of that direction. I m optimistic about Russia improving they are trying to re-introduce reforms supporting large families and revive the tradition of large families. They are paying monthly per kid now to help people have more kids. There was something I read about how krasnoyarsk region had an improvement of about ten percent in the birth rate lately (center russia). Also enforcement of immigration etc. lately has been a good sign. Hopefully there will be a wave of late (better then never) baby booms in places where they are necessary.


75 posted on 12/17/2004 10:43:03 PM PST by eluminate
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To: eluminate

Thanks for an interesting post. We may have a baby boom after our troops get back from the wars - pray that it's not too far in the future.


76 posted on 12/19/2004 8:53:18 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: ml1954

bttt


77 posted on 01/08/2005 3:23:39 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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