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1 posted on 12/05/2004 10:06:25 PM PST by metalmanx2j
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To: metalmanx2j

Yes, and like the early Swift Boat ads they have managed to get at least excerpts of it played on the news all weekend. The thing is that even the liberal news guys think it's stupid. When you watch the TV mega-preachers 1/2 their audience in black, for some of them.

Now some hard hitting Freeper ads on the depravity of the mainstream denominations might be "turn about is fair play". Maybe video of the S&M filled gay pride day celebrations followed by the support given to such orgs by certain legacy denominations.


2 posted on 12/05/2004 10:19:49 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: metalmanx2j
A church that has bouncers?

This doesn't pass the smell test..

3 posted on 12/05/2004 10:23:13 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! It appears that SABERTOOTH got himself suspended. Again. ????)
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To: metalmanx2j
The democrats have the "West Wing" tv show and this fantasy commercial, it's reality that they're having a hard time with. Jesus says come as you are but he doesn't say STAY as you are. Sexual sin, homo or hetero is sin plain and simple. We don't base churches on sin but rather we base them on righteousness.
4 posted on 12/05/2004 10:23:56 PM PST by Mojave Mark (The Democrats... gravitas free since '63)
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To: metalmanx2j

If you can't beat'em, join'em ...


6 posted on 12/05/2004 10:26:18 PM PST by John Lenin
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"Commercial showing bouncers turning away Gays from church"

If this is true, the homosexual perverts are getting a tiny taste of what they'll receive at Heaven's gates.

"just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire." (New Testament, Jude 1:7)

7 posted on 12/05/2004 10:29:51 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: metalmanx2j

"22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. "

Leviticus 18:22

And what doesn't the UCC understand?


9 posted on 12/05/2004 10:34:04 PM PST by Santana (Proud aunt of niece serving in Iraq)
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To: metalmanx2j

The UCC (Unclean Condom Catcher's) need to do some scripture reading...


10 posted on 12/05/2004 10:36:15 PM PST by politicket
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To: metalmanx2j

They should have a commercial showing the real life Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence (gay guys dressed up as nuns) who french kiss in front of churches in San Francisco --- which I consider a hate crime.


12 posted on 12/05/2004 10:42:25 PM PST by Old Lady
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To: metalmanx2j

UCC's doctrine is obviously based on the "making crap up" theology.

What lost souls.


17 posted on 12/05/2004 10:59:21 PM PST by kb2614 ( You have everything to fear, including fear itself. - The new DNC slogan)
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To: metalmanx2j

Saw an interview of the head of the church that made the ad, she is a lesbian. Godless birds of a feather..grind together!


18 posted on 12/05/2004 11:01:09 PM PST by BOOTSTICK (MEET ME IN KANSAS CITY)
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To: metalmanx2j

In a sane world, yes, gays are turned away from church and rapists are turned away from the White House.


23 posted on 12/05/2004 11:39:38 PM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: metalmanx2j
I have just viewed the "Still Speaking" ad, and the least of the surprises was the bouncers stopping the guys walking hand in hand (the velvet rope was opened for a very white guy and his platinum blonde wife). The black-shirted thugs then stopped -- apropo of what I can't imagine -- a young Hispanic man in a golf shirt. A young girl who appeared to be either Hispanic or of mixed race (and may have had a scar on her forehead) was told "I don't think so!" by the beefy baldie. The press release from the UCC tells the rest of the story:

Written text interrupts the scene, announcing, "Jesus didn't turn people away. Neither do we." A narrator then proclaims the United Church of Christ's commitment to Jesus' extravagant welcome: "No matter who you are, or where you are on life's journey, you are welcome here."
Having emerged from the bigotry of the previous scene, featured laughing and smiling on screen as that "commitment" is "proclaimed" are a couple of fresh faced preteen girls (one Asian, one white), the aforementioned Hispanic man, a black couple, what appears to be an elderly Jewish couple, and two thirtyish women (presumably lesbians) who are arm-in-arm.

I have been observing that commercials are increasingly promoting a product or service that isn't really needed by anyone. Without the ability to earnestly say, "This is why you need this product," they must invent reasons why the target audience should consider it. For example: where I live, the local cable company promoted their broadband service by comparing DSL unfavorably with it, suggesting that the further you live from the phone company, the slower your download speed. This idea was furthered by a scene in which a grinning boob who wants DSL calculates with one of those measuring wheels where he would have to move to get faster DSL service.

In order to counter what its press release described as "relentless erosion," The United Church of Christ had to invent a reason why people should come to their church. Being "the gay-friendly church" apparently wasn't expansive enough -- they wanted to reach out to Latinos and blacks too, even though I don't remember either of those groups complaining that they didn't have churches where they were welcome.

The UCC all but admits this is an attention-garnering stunt. As the press release says, "In an age of media saturation, if you are not visible on television, the popular assumption is that you do not exist." They are trying to stoke the controversy about not being seen into a censorship issue, which might be covered this time around because it is not a conservative group crying foul.

Will this work? I don't know. But what I do know is that this fits nicely with the rabid blue-staters who fear God as interpreted by George W. Bush.

25 posted on 12/06/2004 12:05:15 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (PRESIDENT ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER ...Think about it.)
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To: metalmanx2j

Catholic churches are open to all, though if you're homosexual then you might not like the message.

This reminds me of an old episode of Dragnet, the TV show. (Paraphrased from aging memory) There was a theft at a church. Friday and Gannon go to speak to the priest. The priest tells them how the baby Jesus was taken from the church's manger scene the night before.

Friday asks how the burglers gained entry.

The priest explains that the doors to the church are never locked.

Friday says "You never lock the doors? Even to theves?"

The priest says "ESPECIALLY TO THIEVES!"


26 posted on 12/06/2004 12:05:27 AM PST by MarineBrat (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools!)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

More on the "church bouncers" TV ad from the United Church of Christ [sic].

Details about the ad, how they lump in racial prejudice with the "gay is good" crap.

It's not an ad, it's a little piece of dung-like propaganda designed to make Bible believing Christians look like racial bigots. I hope the ad acts like cold water in the face to anyone who still thinks that homosexuals just want "tolerance".

Let ItsOurTimeNow and me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


30 posted on 12/06/2004 12:26:57 AM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: metalmanx2j

That's the UCC commercial. It should be titled "Strawman 101."


32 posted on 12/06/2004 12:42:44 AM PST by Petronski (WARNING: Persons denying the existence of Robots may be Robots themselves.)
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To: metalmanx2j
Ahem, I belong to a conservative denomination. Homosexuals are welcome. (As are all sinners.)

BUT: if a homosexual enters one of our churches, they will hear that homosexuality is a sin and they need to repent. (And all other sinners will hear that they need to repent from their sins, myself included.)

People living in flagrant sin will not teach Sunday School, serve as deacons or elders, nor preach the Gospel.

The Presbyterian Church In America; "We're the intolerant Presbyterians"

34 posted on 12/06/2004 1:00:08 AM PST by Gamecock (Threads started by Gamecock on FR do not necessarily represent the views of the GRPL)
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