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Rocking For Christ
cbs ^ | 12-7-04

Posted on 12/07/2004 12:06:09 PM PST by LouAvul

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To: Jorge
I'm TELLING YOU. This sort of "cross-over" garbage is a sign of compromise and the end times. That is my point.

Yup. When I hear Gospel R&B, it makes me horny.

421 posted on 12/07/2004 9:24:43 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: anyone

Since this is being discussed - my husband and I have been going around and around with this - our church is doing an evening service and they take all these beautiful, modern, worship songs, and they crank up the amps, crank up the bass, and then sort of scream the lyrics in what sounds off tempo - I just HATE it. I want them to find their own NEW stuff - not butcher songs I love. I don't even want to go to that service, but my husband thinks we should be there to support the evening effort.

It is bringing people in with multiple piercings, black fingernails and primary colored hair...and if those people are actually hearing a message, than...I'm sure it's a good thing - although I wouldn't be able to understand the words, if I wasn't able to guess which song they were distorting. We have 4 teens, and two of them like it - two of them don't. None of my kids listen to the really hard stuff...and if I can not dicipher the lyrics after a couple times through - we don't play them here.

I am 41 and I prefer a mix of music...I love How great thou art...and every thing Rich Mullins and Keith Green ever sang (that I've heard!)


422 posted on 12/07/2004 9:24:57 PM PST by Julie(LCR) (democrats thrive when good people sit back and do nothing)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
I think we are on the same page too. Since you work with youth also, you may want to check out an interesting book called "Rock Stars on God" by Doug Van Pelt. It is a collection of interviews from HM (Christian rock mag) of secular artists.

Alice Cooper's Christian testimony is in it and it is AWESOME! The other artists vary, but there is a lot of artists who have the attitude "Jesus is ok, if you wanna believe in that sorta thing". It was interesting to see the philosophy that is behind some of these bands.
423 posted on 12/07/2004 9:26:09 PM PST by reaganaut (Red state girl in a Blue state world (Socialist Republic of California))
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To: Zechariah11
and otherwise make an ass of ourselves as part of our Sunday 11:00am service

You're doing a pretty good job of it on this thread and it's only Tuesday night....

424 posted on 12/07/2004 9:26:52 PM PST by freebilly ("Body parts everywhere!")
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To: Republican Wildcat
You continue changing the subject, saying you didn't say what you said, saying others said something they didn't say, and the like.

The truth is you can't can't seem to comprehend what this debate is about and you clearly can't keep up with the discussion.

Of course if you can cite an example of you state above I would be glad to bring you up to speed.

425 posted on 12/07/2004 9:28:36 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Hmmm... on one hand, I agree completely with that, and on the other hand I could see someone saying "This Jesus dude seems pretty hip." and then they look closer and see the message of Hope and Salvation that He gives us all, and thus they get the message, too.

Looking closer is the key. Unfortunately, I have all to often see it stop with the "this Jesus dude seems pretty hip" and then leave it at that. As a catalyst to conversion I have no problem with it, but we believers need to make the message clear so the Holy Spirit can do it's work. It is not I, but He who saves.

426 posted on 12/07/2004 9:30:00 PM PST by reaganaut (Red state girl in a Blue state world (Socialist Republic of California))
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To: THE MODERATE

Christian rock done right, is wonderful. Done wrong, it is pathetic.

Christians that the Lord has so prepared, barge right in and plunder the rock instruments back from the now-bound "strong man" (the devil).


427 posted on 12/07/2004 9:30:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: reaganaut
It is not I, but He who saves.

Agreed. We don't "save", we just deliver the message ;0)

428 posted on 12/07/2004 9:30:53 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Yup. When I hear Gospel R&B, it makes me horny.

What is Gospel R&B? Hate to interrupt your fun but you've got your genre's mixed up.

429 posted on 12/07/2004 9:31:22 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Yup. When I hear Gospel R&B, it makes me horny.

Yes, especially things like this R&B from DC Talk:

"Impress this brother with a life of virtue. The innocence that's spent is gonna hurt you. Safe is the way they say to play. Then again safe isn't safe at all today. So just wait for the mate that's straight from God. Don't have sex 'til you tie the knot."

Highly demonic and "fleshy", isn't it?

430 posted on 12/07/2004 9:32:26 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: LeftCoastRebel

I'm 50 and I pretty much like all music. My daughter is just 18 and currently at a Christian college pursing a degree in music. She loves the classic hymns and barely tolerates the more modern Christian music. My middle son, on the other hand, loves Christian rock. Both have their hearts in the right place and use music to worship God. I'm sure God loves to hear them both.


431 posted on 12/07/2004 9:32:35 PM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: Jorge
What is Gospel R&B? Hate to interrupt your fun but you've got your genre's mixed up.

There are many artists out there who do Gospel music in an R&B style.

432 posted on 12/07/2004 9:33:14 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: Jorge
Is God so desperate to communicate with mankind that he would use this kind of music?

He was desperate enough to die a messy, butcherous death on filthy wooden poles.

433 posted on 12/07/2004 9:33:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Republican Wildcat

Ooh stop it. I feel the need to commit the Sin of Onan...


434 posted on 12/07/2004 9:33:55 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
He was desperate enough to die a messy, butcherous death on filthy wooden poles.

Kind of makes most of this discussion pretty damn ludicrous....

435 posted on 12/07/2004 9:34:49 PM PST by freebilly ("Body parts everywhere!")
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To: Chad Fairbanks
It's the message - and the message comes from one's heart. What is in a man's heart is what is important. A "Heavy Beat" isn't always a bad thing...

So as long as my message is the love of Christ, it doesn't matter if I am screaming in people's faces in the most rude manner imaginable.

WRONG.

436 posted on 12/07/2004 9:35:06 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Chad Fairbanks

We have someone repeatedly commenting on something they are demonstrating they know nothing about, but yet are casting judgment on it. It is, truly, very sad.


437 posted on 12/07/2004 9:36:01 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Jorge

No, you are wrong, period. You are commenting on something you know absolutely nothing about. That is DISHONEST.


438 posted on 12/07/2004 9:36:39 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Jorge
So as long as my message is the love of Christ, it doesn't matter if I am screaming in people's faces in the most rude manner imaginable.

If by "screaming in people's faces in the most rude manner imaginable" you mean "in a music style they like" then yeah, sure that's ok.

WRONG.

I think you mean, "If I don't like the music, it's The Devil!" right?

439 posted on 12/07/2004 9:36:43 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
There are many artists out there who do Gospel music in an R&B style.

Do the classify their Gospel music as "Rhythm and Blues"? I don't think so.

440 posted on 12/07/2004 9:37:10 PM PST by Jorge
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