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Mother of the Matrix" Victorious ("The Matrix" Story Plagiarised by Wachowski/Warner Brothers)
Boycott-RIAA.com ^ | Dec 6 2004

Posted on 12/09/2004 10:41:31 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus

Monday, October 4th 2004 ended a six-year dispute involving Sophia Stewart, the Wachowski Brothers, Joel Silver and Warner Brothers. Stewart's allegations, involving copyright infringement and racketeering, were received and acknowledged by the Central District of California, Judge Margaret Morrow residing.

Stewart, a New Yorker who has resided in Salt Lake City for the past five years, will recover damages from the films, The Matrix I, II and III, as well as The Terminator and its sequels. She will soon receive one of the biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood, as the gross receipts of both films and their sequels total over 2.5 billion dollars.

Stewart filed her case in 1999, after viewing the Matrix, which she felt had been based on her manuscript, "The Third Eye," copyrighted in 1981. In the mid-eighties Stewart had submitted her manuscript to an ad placed by the Wachowski Brothers, requesting new sci-fi works.

According to court documentation, an FBI investigation discovered that more than thirty minutes had been edited from the original film, in attempt to avoid penalties for copyright infringement. The investigation also stated that "credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward, claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski Brothers." These witnesses claimed to have seen Stewart's original work and that it had been "often used during preparation of the motion pictures." The defendants tried, on several occasions, to have Stewart's case dismissed, without success.

Stewart has confronted skepticism on all sides, much of which comes from Matrix fans, who are strangely loyal to the Wachowski Brothers. One on-line forum, entitled Matrix Explained has an entire section devoted to Stewart. Some who have researched her history and writings are open to her story. Others are suspicious and mocking. "It doesn't bother me," said Stewart in a phone interview last week, "I always knew what was true."

Some fans, are unaware of the case or they question its legitimacy, due to the fact that it has received little to no media coverage. Though the case was not made public until October of 2003, Stewart has her own explanation, as quoted at daghettotymz.com:

"The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner... this GIANT owns 95 percent of the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, Dreamworks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow... many, many more!... They are not going to report on themselves. They have been surpressing my case for years..."

Fans who have taken Stewart's allegations seriously, have found eerie mythological parallels, which seem significant in a case that revolves around the highly metaphorical and symbolic Matrix series. Sophia, the greek goddess of wisdom has been referenced many times in speculation about Stewart. In one book about the Goddess Sophia, it reads, "The black goddess is the mistress of web creation spun in her divine matrix."

Although there have been outside implications as to racial injustice (Stewart is African American), she does not feel that this is the case. "This is all about the Benjamins," said Stewart. "It's not about money with me. It's about justice."

Stewart's future plans involve a record label, entitled Popsilk Records, and a motion picture production company, All Eyez On Me, in reference to God. "I wrote The Third Eye to wake people up, to remind them why God put them here. There's more to life than money," said Stewart. "My whole message to the world is about God and good and about choice, about spirituality prevailing over 'technocracy'."

If Stewart represents spirituality, then she truly has prevailed over the "technocracy" represented in both the Terminator and the Matrix, and now, ironically, by their supposed creators.

Stewart is currently having discussions with CBS about a possible exclusive story and has several media engagements in the near future to nationally publicize her victory.


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1 posted on 12/09/2004 10:41:31 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Where's the evidence? Nowhere in the article whatsoever?


2 posted on 12/09/2004 10:45:42 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

The lady's website is here

http://daghettotymz.com/matrix/matrix.html

(sould like a slightly strange person)


3 posted on 12/09/2004 10:47:21 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Does she have the "documents" to prove it?

Different people came up with the same concepts without direct contact with each other though out history.
4 posted on 12/09/2004 10:48:08 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: PetroniusMaximus
""The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner... this GIANT owns 95 percent of the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, Dreamworks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow... many, many more!... They are not going to report on themselves. They have been suppressing my case for years..." "

They are part of the matrix... ENDTHEMATRIX

5 posted on 12/09/2004 10:48:24 PM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Interesting - I remember reading about this lady some years ago. This story doesn't go into much detail, but I do remember thinking at the time that she might seriously have had a case - I can't remember what the details were that caused me to think that, but I do remember thinking that...


6 posted on 12/09/2004 10:50:01 PM PST by general_re ("What's plausible to you is unimportant." - D'man)
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To: SunStar

The story is not about evidence, the case was. The story was about the results of the case.


7 posted on 12/09/2004 10:50:44 PM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: SunStar; bahblahbah


She won the cast and stands to pick up a large part of 2.5 billion dollars

"..allegations, involving copyright infringement and racketeering, were received and acknowledged by the Central District of California, Judge Margaret Morrow residing."


8 posted on 12/09/2004 10:51:14 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

So how does The Terminator fit into all this?

And if Warner Brothers' lawyers knew who originally worte the works knew referenced it during filming, it tells me such things must happen infrequently and somehow studios get away with it.

What the article doesn't detail is how the Wachowski Brothers defrauded her. Did they just sit on her work and figure that a "statute of limitations" had passed?

Personally, If it were me and I had finally won back all that money, I'd be too jaded to turn around and spend it all on media ventures. But the best of luck to her!


9 posted on 12/09/2004 10:51:25 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

There's 30 minutes missing from the original "Matrix?"


Wha?


10 posted on 12/09/2004 10:52:24 PM PST by Petronski (...for when the Metal Ones come for you. (And they will.))
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To: BradyLS
So how does The Terminator fit into all this?

The commonality between Terminator and Matrix is a dystopic future when
machines created by man become too smart for us and turn on humanity.

11 posted on 12/09/2004 10:54:09 PM PST by Petronski (...for when the Metal Ones come for you. (And they will.))
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To: SunStar
There is no spoon evidence.
12 posted on 12/09/2004 10:55:26 PM PST by Salamander (Tune in tomorrow, same tagline, same tagplace.)
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To: Petronski

But...but...Stephen King (writing as Richard Bachman) did the same thing-- with 18 wheelers! :-D


13 posted on 12/09/2004 10:55:49 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: bahblahbah; endthematrix
According to court documentation, an FBI investigation discovered that more than thirty minutes had been edited from the original film, in attempt to avoid penalties for copyright infringement. The investigation also stated that "credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward, claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski Brothers." These witnesses claimed to have seen Stewart's original work and that it had been "often used during preparation of the motion pictures." The defendants tried, on several occasions, to have Stewart's case dismissed, without success.

Next time read the whole story. Obviously she had the documentation she won the case and the people involved in making the movie knew of her prior work. Do you guys work for ViaCom????

14 posted on 12/09/2004 10:56:38 PM PST by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: BradyLS
But...but...Stephen King (writing as Richard Bachman) did the same thing-- with 18 wheelers! :-D

Actually, there was a film in the early 70s called Colossus: The Forbin Project that presaged them all.

15 posted on 12/09/2004 10:58:44 PM PST by Petronski (...for when the Metal Ones come for you. (And they will.))
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To: NBS

Interesting.

They left that out of the "printer-unfriendly version"


17 posted on 12/09/2004 11:05:10 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: BradyLS

It is done more frequently than most realize. One of the worse perps of this kind of purloin is The Walt Disney Company.


18 posted on 12/09/2004 11:05:51 PM PST by Banjoguy ("The business of the Church is business"......)
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To: ImphClinton; bahblahbah

Re: Do you guys work for ViaCom????

No. They are part of the "matrix" too...UPN, MTV, VH1, Simon & Shuster, Paramount...(TV, Radio, dot-com, etc.)

http://www.ketupa.net/viacom1.htm


19 posted on 12/09/2004 11:07:10 PM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Did she create the concept of Agent Smith? The greatest concept to come out of these movies.

Then again the Wachowski Brothers are pretty anti-Reagan.

20 posted on 12/09/2004 11:11:15 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: endthematrix

No doubt.

They certinally didn't respond. Both are fairly new members. DNC spies I wonder?


21 posted on 12/09/2004 11:11:57 PM PST by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: Petronski
Actually, there was a film in the early 70s called Colossus: The Forbin Project that presaged them all.

Yeah, The Forbin Project was a great movie! A single computer intelligence that merged and took over other computers and turned nuclear missles against man in order to rule the world. It does sound familiar!

And then there was a Star Trek episode in the 60's, I think it had a title like "I touched the sky". People living in a make-believe world inside a spaceship run by a god-like computer intelligence. I can think of a bunch of sci-fi novels from the 50's and 60's with similar scenarios.

22 posted on 12/09/2004 11:26:03 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Petronski

the missing 30 minutes are the end where Neo finds out that there is in fact a spoon


23 posted on 12/09/2004 11:31:03 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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umm didn't anyone RTFA?

"The investigation also stated that "credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward, claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski Brothers." These witnesses claimed to have seen Stewart's original work and that it had been "often used during preparation of the motion pictures."


24 posted on 12/09/2004 11:32:28 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: Petronski
"Actually, there was a film in the early 70s called Colossus: The Forbin Project that presaged them all."

That's a great movie. "I offer you peace--either the peace of plenty or the peace of the grave. The choice is yours." I especially am a fan of the World Control T-shirts the people are wearing at the end!

25 posted on 12/09/2004 11:32:33 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (The 80s belonged to the Gipper, the Aughts belong to Dubya!)
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To: ImphClinton
Both are fairly new members. DNC spies I wonder?

Actually, that possibility can't be laughed off since the Democrats are now "out of the closet" about how they REALLY feel about black Americans like this writer, Sophia Stewart. Especially black American WOMEN.

26 posted on 12/09/2004 11:33:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Are you ever right.

I couldn't believe what Henry said about Thomas. He obviously never read a single Thomas opinion just assuming he was a stupid N like all the rest of them N's. Course then there is Ginsberg and Sharpton who really can't write.

The DNC the real party of hate and the KKK.


27 posted on 12/09/2004 11:43:28 PM PST by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: Banjoguy
It is done more frequently than most realize.

It doesn't just happen wih movie scripts. This is a case of the big company with all the lawyers trying to stomp on the little person. For myself, I do nothing with a large company unless it is spelled out in a contract or the deal is for some fast cash with no continuing liability.

28 posted on 12/09/2004 11:52:51 PM PST by glorgau
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To: PetroniusMaximus
the Wachowski Brothers

Could not happen to a nicer pair of wierdo deviants.

29 posted on 12/09/2004 11:56:43 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: SunStar
Where's the evidence? Nowhere in the article whatsoever?

Well apparently the writer did no have room or wisdom to put forth what took years to decide in the courts.

But if they used her manuscript in production and cut scenes to hide that fact its pretty incriminating.

That movie is based on such and odd-ball concept that in all my years of reading sci-fi I've never seen anything that comes close, so it seems unlikely two people would come up with something that similar. Besides, the producers acknowledged seeing her manuscript before they filmed, even though they denied using it.

What I want to know is where did the Terminator come in?

30 posted on 12/10/2004 12:48:28 AM PST by konaice
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Wow!
She only wrote 45 pages and it was for a comic book.
BUT... if they stole the idea from her, and previously advertised for it... tough cookies.


THE NEW MILLI & VANILLI OF MOTION PICTURES
written by Sabrina Woods
June 22, 2003

On April 24, 2003, A Sophia Stewart resident of Salt Lake City, Utah filed a Federal lawsuit in the District Court Of California, against defendants Andy and Larry Wachowski, also among the accused are Hollywood's Joel Silver, and Warner Brothers. These defendants are being sued for the recreation, redevelopment, promotion, reproduction, proliferation, distribution, and disbursement throughout the United States of America and abroad to third world countries, for the movie the "Matrix".

Allegedly the defendants cut, removed and, or destroyed from the original production of the movie motion picture, more than thirty (30) minutes of the movie, and the introduction. In an attempt to avoid both civil and criminal penalties for Copyright Infringement from Stewart's 45 page Epic Science Fiction Manuscript entitled The Third Eye which copyrights date back as far as 1981, as noticed and acknowledged by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

In the summer of 1986 Stewart answered an ad in a national magazine in which the Wachowski’s were looking for a science fiction manuscript to make in a comic book. Stewart six-page treatment shows exactly how the movie should look on the screen and how the scenes should go. The brothers used as much of the material as they could, before the story department at Warner’s allegedly changed features while preserving the heart of the Epic, in order to protect themselves of being held libel. Credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers have come forward claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski brothers. The witnesses also add that the original work of Stewart had been seen, and often used during preparation of the motion picture.

Joel Silver is the influence who is noted for having taken the brothers and allegedly stolen work to Warner Brother’s Top Brass Lorenzo Di Bonaventura and Alan Horn, to make the movie.

During the investigation held by the FBI, key pieces of evidence were found and discussed in detail with Stewart, that later establish Stewart as the writer of the movie “The Matrix” and surprisingly “The Terminator”. This discovery adds to the list of defendants; 20 th Century Fox Productions, James Cameron, Gale Ann Hurd (Cameron’s ex-wife), and Hemdale Films with no less than four counts of liability each.

These “Defendants” all appear to be members of a group of conspirators. Movie motion pictures producers, directors, officers, authorized agents, benefactors, editors, screen writers, movie composers, movie motion picture distributors, and movie production companies. All, who agreed between themselves to engage, conduct and perform wrongful deception, misrepresentation, fraud with face forward deceit to the purchasing public and the original artist, all for their personal monetary gain.

This may explain the long-term overseas absence taken by the Wachowski brothers after an investigation was launched in 2000, could this have been an attempt to avoid questioning on the brother’s behalf? Or maybe they were just celebrating because they are now financially able to explain “Their Script”!

Sabrina Woods
1602 Honeysuckle Ln.
Round Rock, TX 78664
P: (512)244.7603

31 posted on 12/10/2004 1:05:12 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I always thought the Matrix seemed about God and Christianity. I hated the last line of the original movie which is very antiChrist and thought it ruined the basic concept of the movie, hijacking it. I find it very cool to find out that it looks like the person who came up with it founded it on Godly principles. I am not sure what her doctrine is but it would be interesting to find out. Is she going to come out with novels based upon what she originally wrote I wonder. I wonder what else she will come up with in the future. What a great imagination.


32 posted on 12/10/2004 2:50:00 AM PST by Bellflower (A NEW DAY IS COMING!)
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To: Petronski
So how does The Terminator fit into all this?

The commonality between Terminator and Matrix is a dystopic future when machines created by man become too smart for us and turn on humanity.

I always assumed that both of these came from Dune, which was written in 1965.

33 posted on 12/10/2004 3:24:08 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Petronski

Collosus was a great flick !! Ahead of its time .


34 posted on 12/10/2004 3:35:14 AM PST by Renegade
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To: BradyLS

It has been written about much longer ago than that. Back in the late 60's or early 70's there was a television movie called Colossus: The Forbin Project. Anyone remember that one?


35 posted on 12/10/2004 3:52:26 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: BradyLS; Petronski
But...but...Stephen King...

Oh, and more than a few Twilight Zone epis. And Dimension-X before that. And X Minus One. And ...

I guess you can say it's a twist on Ned Ludd[ite]'s rage.

36 posted on 12/10/2004 4:08:31 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: SunStar

She copyrighted her Matrix story in 1981. Apparently, significant similarities exist between her story and the Matrix movies. If she came up with The Matrix and The Terminator, she's pretty brilliant.


37 posted on 12/10/2004 4:28:01 AM PST by rabidralph (George W. Bush, the other Body Hammer)
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To: SunStar

Why does he need to show evidence? She won her case therefore she must have had plenty of evidence. This article isn't about IF she is right but the fact that she was right and won her case, nothing needs to be proven, she proved it to the court and won against a giant in the media industry.


38 posted on 12/10/2004 6:20:50 AM PST by calex59
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To: Vince Ferrer
I always assumed that both of these came from Dune, which was written in 1965.

Uhhh...WHAT? Have you actually read Dune? It's hard to think of a work of Sci Fi more different from Terminator and The Matrix than Dune.

39 posted on 12/10/2004 6:25:31 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Googling about a bit, it doesn't appear that Stewart has actually prevailed on the merits yet, merely survived various pre-trial motions to dismiss, although the defendants succeeded in getting her RICO claims dismissed.


40 posted on 12/10/2004 6:34:50 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: bahblahbah
Does she have the "documents" to prove it? If you would bother to read the story, you would have noticed that she had a copyrighted work, "The Third Eye". They stole the story from her, and then used everything in their power to keep her from profiting from a 2+ billion dollar enterprise based on her story.

Again, if you would have bothered to read the article, you would see that she had responded to an ad, placed by the Wachoswski's, and submitted her copyrighted work to them. They gave her a rejection slip, and then kept the story anyway. It was a classic case of stolen work. At least that was work the court of law found.
41 posted on 12/10/2004 6:59:14 AM PST by Texas2step (<><)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

And I think this Stewart lady plagiarized a bunch of philosophers. The descendants of Plato should sue!


42 posted on 12/10/2004 10:03:53 AM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Petronski
There's 30 minutes missing from the original "Matrix?" Wha?

I'm sure you can get it with that 18 disc "special edition" DVD set they're pushing on late night infomercials. As an added bonus you even get a running commentary featuring Cornel West!

43 posted on 12/10/2004 10:06:07 AM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Strategerist
Uhhh...WHAT? Have you actually read Dune? It's hard to think of a work of Sci Fi more different from Terminator and The Matrix than Dune.

Two words: Butlerian Jihad

44 posted on 12/10/2004 9:03:18 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Strategerist

The Butlerian Jihad in Dune was a war between humans and AI beings...


45 posted on 12/10/2004 10:42:44 PM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: section9

You might want to check this thread out considering you are a Ghost in the Shell fan and I am sure you would admire the irony considering the W. Brothers also ripped off the 'numbers' intro to the first Ghost in the Shell movie.


46 posted on 12/11/2004 1:31:10 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Well, the W. Brothers didn't do so much as "rip off" the initial "Numbers" sequence in their intro as use it as a homage to Ghost. In addition, there is a chase scene in which a bullet passes through a watermelon that deleberately tips the hat to a similar scene from GItS I.

The crime of the W Brothers is not the Matrix itself, but the fact that the successor movies were so effing baaad!

Be Seeing You,

Chris

47 posted on 12/11/2004 2:33:29 PM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: PetroniusMaximus

The mention of "The Terminator" is odd ... and I'm pretty sure Harlan Ellison at one point claimed that movie had ripped off his ideas, so this woman seems to be a little late to the party.


48 posted on 12/11/2004 2:37:26 PM PST by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, Dreamworks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow... many, many more!...

The LA Times is owned by the Tribune Company - not AOL Time Warner.

49 posted on 12/11/2004 2:44:37 PM PST by jackbill
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To: BradyLS
So how does The Terminator fit into all this?

I don't know about this, but Harlan Ellison sued the studios over "Terminator," and you'll now notice that during the credits, there is an acknowledgement of HE's works.

I guess that both are similar in that we build a better machine, the machines take over, and start killing people.

Mark

50 posted on 12/11/2004 3:13:54 PM PST by MarkL (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too!)
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