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1 posted on 12/10/2004 5:37:58 AM PST by OESY
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To: OESY

Wonder when these brave news organization will look to put Islam to "the test" right before Ramadan...


2 posted on 12/10/2004 5:39:29 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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Time & Newsweek talking about religion is like Laurel & Hardy talking about philosophy. Consider the secular sources. No axes to grind, no sir. Certainly not linked arm-to-arm with the the aclu (hey, does the ac in aclu stand for "anti-Christ?).


5 posted on 12/10/2004 5:58:13 AM PST by searchandrecovery (abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz)
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The facts:

(1) This pseudointellectual deconstruction of the New Testament has been going on for four centuries now - it didn't start with Voltaire.

(2) Since the initiation of this critique archaeologists and historians have discovered mountains of fascinating data about the first century of which the people of the 1600s/1700s had no knowledge.

(3) Despite centuries of criticism and the discovery of so much new, hard data the deconstructionists have actually lost ground.

Did after dig, ancient document after ancient document, the hard research either corroborates or does not contradict the New Testament accounts. Yet hard research has discredited theory after deconstructionist theory.

(5) And so the deconstructionists have had to abandon any sewrious, scholarly analysis and have resorted to the methods of the Jesus Seminar: i.e. deconstructionists vote among themselves as to what they think really happened. Imagine this happening in any other discipline - it's preposterous.

The theories of the deconstructionist critics are indefensible and that is why they continue to wax shriller and more offensive.

The future of Scripture scholarship belongs to the orthodox.

6 posted on 12/10/2004 6:10:22 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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Is someone able to verify this for me. I once heard that these people who are part of this "Jesus Seminar" who the MSM use all the time when they want to discredit the Bible have a consensus that only one thing in the entire New Testament is reliable that Jesus actually said. The verse? "Render unto Ceasar the things that are Ceasars".

I didn't hear that from some email, it was a few years ago in a class with a college professor saying it. It came up as a side issue but I don't know if it was verified. Has anyone else heard this?

I guess the way this "seminar" works is some members might believe Jesus actually said 5 things reflected in the Bible, others 1 thing, a few might believe all of it, etc. However, after voting one year that was the only verse they all could agree was accurate.


7 posted on 12/10/2004 6:13:54 AM PST by RC20
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"Read the eternities, not the (T)imes."


9 posted on 12/10/2004 6:26:00 AM PST by Inwoodian
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The Anvil that Has Worn Out Many Hammers

Nineteenth century writer H.L. Hastings once forcibly illustrated the unique way in which the Bible has withstood the attacks of skepticism:

"Infidels of eighteen hundred years have been refuting and overthrowing this book, and yet it stands today as solid rock. Its circulation increases, and it is more loved and cherished and read today than ever before. Infidels, with all their assaults, make about as much impression on this book as a man with a tack hammer would on the Pyramids of Egypt.

"When the French monarch proposed the persecution of Christians in his dominion, an old statesman and warrior said to him, 'Sire, the church of God is an anvil that has worn out many hammers.' So the hammers of infidels have been pecking away at this book for ages, but the hammers are worn out, and the anvil still endures. If this book had not been the book of God, men would have destroyed it long ago. Emperors and popes, kings and priests, princes and rulers have all tried their hand at it; they die and the book still lives."

"No other book has been so chopped, knived, sifted, scrutinized, and vilified. What book on philosophy or religion or psychology or belles lettres of classical or modern times has been subject to such a mass attack as the Bible? With such venom and skepticism? With such thoroughness and erudition? Upon every chapter, line and tenet? The Bible is still loved by millions, and studied by millions.

11 posted on 12/10/2004 6:52:46 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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Also in the article, this wonderful ending:

"As for the Magi, who arrive on the scene a few days late: I rather like the prayer that Evelyn Waugh writes about them for the heroine of his novel "Helena": "You are my especial patrons," she says, ". . . and patrons of all late-comers, of all who have a tedious journey to make to the truth, of all who are confused with knowledge and speculation. . . . For his sake who did not reject your curious gifts, pray always for all the learned, the oblique, the delicate. Let them not be quite forgotten at the Throne of God when the simple come into their kingdom."

May we not include among the learned and oblique a few biblical scholars?"

Amen

13 posted on 12/10/2004 7:09:27 AM PST by Reo
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Don't you just love it when jerky liberals tell us the Gospels are fake and God doesn't exist?
Puleeeeeeze!!!!!


17 posted on 12/10/2004 9:29:01 AM PST by jmaroneps37 ( Frist/ Blackwell in 2008 for a landslide: you saw it here first.)
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Later, the so-called Gospel writers took this document (which we don't have) and added a lot of mythological material about miracles and claims of Christ's divinity.

I wonder how they explain way the ongoing miracles of Jesus today?
How do you deal with millions of changed lives; those literally rescued from darknes and death through the centuries?

And the miracles of healings taking place daily in the energized church and on the battelfield of Gospel missions worldwide??

I did not believe because I did not see....
Since I have believed.... I now see...

Some see... and then believe...
Some believe... and then are able to see

Some people can't see....
Others refuse to see....(Pharisees...et als)

How shall we answer Him on the great day of the Lord?

Christmas blessings...

18 posted on 12/10/2004 9:31:05 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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The Newsweek article was the usual joke. The only experts they consulted were the Jesus Seminar, and the rest of the article was just fluff.


19 posted on 12/10/2004 10:16:59 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: OESY; 2banana; Semi Civil Servant; wideawake; RC20; Reo; Wings-n-Wind; Conservative til I die; ...
In case any of you are interested, Hugh Hewitt just initiated a "Vox Bloguli" in response to the Newsweek article. Here's a link:

Vox Blogoli VI: What does Newsweek's story on Christmas tell us about MSM?

The first wave of responses are in (from sites like "Solomon's Porch" and "Do Justly") and they make for excellent and thought-provoking reading.

21 posted on 12/14/2004 4:48:55 PM PST by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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