Posted on 12/11/2004 2:57:31 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
Ping
These monstrous Mullahs are the core problem, their evil spawn will continue to multiply unless the Mullahs are dealt with.
Fascinating article.
"may be a tragic result of the Balkan policies that US has had in the Balkans and it compounds the political and security mistakes that the ex-Yugoslav and now Serbian authorities are making."
We can thank Clinton for the disasterous mess in the Balkans. Bombing people who were just trying to get Muslim maniacs under control.
Islamofascist mullahs will find it especially satisfying if America is brought down by whites.
A good article, full of google searches.
Second, we've had tens of thousands of U.S. troops in the Balkans (Macedonia, Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo) for ten years and have not had a single loss to hostile action--never been attacked by these people. If there are al qaeda & Islamist extremists all over Bosnia & Kosovo, then why aren't they attacking us like in Iraq, Afghanistan, and even Saudi Arabia? I've been all over Kosovo, Albania & the Albanian populated parts of Macedonia usually travelling in one or two civilian type vehicles. My biggest problem was fending off the traditional Albanian hospitality offers when they would find I was American.
Third, the conflict in Kosovo was/is a national liberation struggle by the Albanians against what they saw as unjust and what was undoubtedly oppressive Serbian rule from Belgrade. It was not a religious conflict, hard as the Serbs work--especially since 9/11--to portray it as such. President Rugova, Kosovo's most popular elected politician, is Catholic. Albanian Christian churches & their faithful are growing. The national heroine is Mother Teresa--an ethnic Albanian whose family was originally from Kosovo. Not the marks of an Islamic society.
327th myself... right across the street.
Very interesting. I have read so many conflicting reports of all this, I don't know what to believe. Just because people are nice to your face, doesn't mean that behind your back they may be plotting something entirely different. Time will surely tell.
What bugs me, is Clinton getting a free ride, whereby if Bush had done the exact same thing as Clinton in Kosovo, the left would be insanely savaging Bush.
Howdy fellow 502d:
Here's another white al Qaida story to go with this one:
BACKGROUNDER: Compiled by Bill Gertz
'White man' training Al Qaida terrorists in wilderness camp near Kenya
Al Qaida linked Islamist terrorists have set up a training camp in southern Somalia, near the Kenya border, according to eyewitness reports in the local press.
The Nairobi East African Standard newspaper reported last week that Kenyan border guards are aware of the camp, which is a 20-minute boat ride from the underwater park at Kiunga, a border region.
The Islamists at the camp are being trained with the help of a "white man sporting a thick moustache and believed to be of Eastern European extraction, presumably Yugoslavia," the newspaper reported.
The camp at Ras Kiamboni is being used to recruit and train Islamist extremists linked to the Al Ittiyad, a Somalia based group linked to Al Qaida.
According to the report, Al Ittiyad terrorists transit the Kenyan border with arms and equipment. The camp is said to employ turban-wearing sentries armed with AK-47 rifles.
The terrorists are told that they would be sent to fight alongside Islamists in Chechnya. The fighters are part of the global "jihadist" or holy warrior movement that includes Al Qaida.
The accented trainer has been identified only as "David."
The report said fighters who were killed in friendly fire accidents are buried in the camp.
The facility is hidden in a thicket in the wilderness area of Somalia and is defended by a large caliber gun mounted on the coast targeted against approaching ships or boats.
An official in the Kenyan counterterrorist agency said the camp is supported by a Garissa, Kenya businessman and a series of lodges in the Majengo area of Mombassa.
Kenya agents visited the camp in May, June and July and obtained valuable details about its operations in an area almost 45 square miles in size.
The camp is inhabited by families of the jihadists and includes local police and courts.
The terrorists also have cells in Kenya and are supported by the Kenyan businessman. "He is the key financier of the group. Funds to bankroll the suspect activities of the outfit are channeled to the businessman from different banks in Kuwait," the official was quoted as saying.
Roman Catholicism Supplanting Orthodoxy in Kosovo
Excerpts:
PRIZREN, Yugoslavia, Aug. 22 (RNS)--Throughout Kosovo, there are two major kinds of churches, Roman Catholic and Serbian Orthodox. It is easy to tell the difference. The Serbian Orthodox churches are notable for the NATO tanks parked outside, for the rows of coiled razor wire, for the sandbagged guardposts, and for the soldiers with automatic weapons who demand identification from visitors.
Roman Catholic churches in Kosovo are unguarded and unfortified.
Kosovo's 60,000 Catholics, who make up about 4% of the province's population, are enjoying a period of long-awaited freedom and growth. At the same time, the once dominant Serbian Orthodox Church is under steady attack from ethnic Albanian Muslims here who identify the Serbian church with decades of government discrimination.
Because the vast majority of Kosovo Catholics are ethnic Albanians, there is little of the ethnic animosity that divides Orthodox Serbs and Muslim Albanians.
Bishop Sopi, a genial man with an authoritative bearing, said in an earlier interview that local Serbs' flight from Kosovo was a natural process.
"One thing must be clear: The Serbs did not just run to Serbia because the Albanians were driving them out," he said, adding that the Serbs "behaved themselves very badly for the last 10 years and especially during the war, so they have reason to fear for their lives."
During 78 days of NATO bombing and Serb attacks on Albanian Kosovars, Sopi remained in Kosovo along with the vast majority of his 36 priests and 70 nuns.
He said Catholics were not subject to discrimination for their faith.
According to Andreas Szolgyemy, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe's religion adviser in Kosovo, Catholics and Muslims have long enjoyed close relations in the region. He related his experience attending two religious holidays last winter in Pristina, Kosovo's capital.
"At midnight Mass Christmas, in the Catholic church, I would say that half the 2,000 or 3,000 people were Muslims,"
The 327 wasn't too bad, in spite of their glider heritage. It was those "Mammasans" or, as they like to call themselves, "Rakkasans" that just couldn't keep up with the 502d.
I have no particular dog in this hunt, but I have to wonder . . .
Could it be because the Kosovo Liberation Army is too busy killing or driving out as many Serbs as they can? Since we arrived, how have the Serbs, Roma and Askhali communities fared?
Damn Right! Bastogne Baby!
As for the 187th, I'm in agreement...
That's why they had the crappy barracks when we had the 3-man "apartments" ;-)
I've recently heard similar stories from a young woman from our parish who is teaching in Albania. But she does say that there are large numbers of Turks and Arabs there, "students" who glare at the Orthodox when they see them and act very menacing. On the other hand, she says the average Albanians she meets are very nice to her, no matter what their religion. In the meantime, Mohammaden mobs are still sacking Orthodox Churches in Kosovo while NATO troops stand by because of the rules of engagement and there is no question, as you must know, that Al Queda or its sympathizers were active during the war over there in relatively large numbers.
Millions of modern people of the white civilization - that is, the civilization of Europe and America - have forgotten all about Islam. They have never come in contact with it, they take for granted that it is decaying, and that, anyway, it is just a foreign religion which will not concern them. It is, as a fact, the most formidable and persistent enemy which our civilization has had, and may at any moment become as large a menace in the future as it has been in the past....
There was one critical moment when it looked as though the scheme would suceed. A huge Mohamedan armada fought at the mouth of the Gulf Of Corinth against the Christian fleet at Lepanto. The Christians won the naval action and the Western Mediterranean was saved. But it was a very close thing, and the name Lepanto should remain in the minds of all men with a sense of history as one of the half dozen great names in the history of the Christian world.
Today we are accustomed to think of the Mohammedan world as something backward and stagnant, in all material affairs at least. We cannot imagine a great Mohamedan fleet made up of modern ironclads and submarines, or a great modern Mohamedan army fully equipped with modern artillery, flying power and all the rest. But not so very long ago, less than a hundred years before the Declaration of Independence, the Mohamededan Government centered at Constantinople had beter artillery and army equipment of evy kind than we Christians had in the West. The last effort they made to destroy Christendom was contemporary with the end of the reign of Charles the II in England and of his brother James and of the usurper William III. It failed during the last years of the seventeenth century, only just over two hundred years ago. Vienna, as we saw, was almost taken and only saved by the Christian army under the comand of the King of Poland on a date that ought to be among the most famous in history -
SEPTEMBER 11, 1683
*We Christians may not have long memories but that can't be said for Islam and the followers of Mohammed.
It is time for the United States to take bold steps in the war on terror. At the top of that list would be preventing Louis Farrakhans reentry to the United States. In case you havent heard, he casually mentioned to the Iraqi leadership, and subsequently to the Iraqi people that the Muslims in America are praying for an Iraqi victory should the United States start a war with the despotic Middle Eastern state. The anti-American rhetoric was piled high and deep in most of his speeches. The Iraqi press had a field day with these statements; never mind that Mr. Farrakhans followers are often regarded by them as the bastard children of Islam.
Based on that info, I'd say he's "presumably" from Chechnya--although, we really don't know--we've had "white al qaeda" from Australia, the USA, and Germany as well.
OK, "war" story. In May 93 I was in the QRF in Somalia. A UN plane tried to land at a small strip in western Somalia (Garbheery)and got shot up. This was an Islamic fundamentalist area, but the US UNITAF had not gone out there as there was no violence or problems with famine, food distribution, etc.
However, the UN (who had just taken over) had the nation-building task and was extending its reach past the areas we already controlled. After the plane incident, we sent an SF team to recon the area. They got in a several hour running gun-battle before they began running out of ammo and had to break contact. We found that Somali Islamic fundamentalists were controlling much of the the Jubba River valley up around the Somali-Kenya-Ethiopia border junction. They didn't want any UN interference (not sure I blame them for that!), but the UNOSOM mandate was to extend control over the whole country.
The UN forces in the area were Botswanans further south in a town called Bardera. Lots of will, but no capability to travel sixty miles up river and take these guys on. The QRF task was to respond to military threats in excess of the capabilities of UN forces, so off we went.
Initial objective was the small town & airstrip where the plane was shot up. We staged forward to Bardera and announnced we were doing joint patrols with the Botswanans to the south and then did so for two days. After dark on the third day two infantry companies were landed via helicopter out of sight and sound behind a helicopter out of sight and sound about 12 kilometers south of Garbheery in the lee of a high ridge. The 10th Mountain light fighters spread out and infiltrated cross-country by platoons into positions immediately around the town, arriving just before dawn. At sunrise, the battalion commander with a truck mounted Infantry Company and a military police platoon converged in on the roads leading from Bardera and Baidoa. Units moved to blocking positions or directly to the known locations of the enemy. One platoon captured a technical and another pounced on a twin-barreled 40mm anti-aircraft gun positioned to cover the airfield. A quick search rounded up a few more weapons and their suspicious owners. Our interpreters said that surprise was complete. We turned the detainees over to the Botswanans for interrogation and headed back to Mogadishu to plan for subsequent ops. Shortly after, the Paks got hit hard in Mogadishu and from that point on we were tied to the big city.
Although that fundamentalist-controlled corner of Somalia remained on the "to do" list, we were overcome by other events and never got to it. It was only much later that we realized the connection between those guys and Aideed.
Personally, although my info is now dated, I'd be a little surprised by an Islamic encampment at the location described. First, that area of Somalia was simply not a fundamentalist area and the clan leadership there was pro-western and fought on our side agaisnt the Aideed militias. Second, we now have some forces in Djibouti whose only job is to look for places like that and take them out--I doubt we'd let an encampement like that survive unless its something other than what Gertz describes.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.