Posted on 12/13/2004 1:42:14 PM PST by Ed Current
Ans as a descendant of African slaves, I think the comparison is particularly apt. Political correctness cannot be allowed to trump the truth.
Legal abortion and the forced extermination of Jews is a far stretch. It's a reach, and not a very good one at that, and better than I'm sure you can do.
The only reason to outlaw abortion is because you are inflicting pain and death on another human being.
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Do you want it to happen?
I've already stated, unabashedly, no. I don't want abortion to be illegal.
Indeed, why should ones personal right to "convenience" negate the rights of other people to the fundamental right to "life." Its even more an abomination when natural order dictates a responsibility for the first party to nurture that life.
OK. So you who want the status quo are telling us who don't want the status quo shut up and go away. Can't say I'll take the advice.
Boiled down to it's essence it is very much akin. It is a matter of who has the POWER to determine how or even whether a human being should be allowed to live. I have the POWER to enslave you, or to exterminate you, or to hire a medical hitman to terminate you, and I will CHOOSE to exercise it. It simply requires that I deny you your humanity, in contravention of the principles of the Declaration, which reads "that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain inalienable rights, amongst these are the right to LIFE", etc.
No, it is not much of a strech at all.
Oh, please. This is why your side will never win.
That doesn't mean anything. Some people commit other crimes even though they're against the law. That doesn't mean the law should not regard them as crimes.
Abortion will never be illegal in the US.
Hitler promised his Reich would last a thousand years.
Fact is that there will be people who lie, cheat, steal, murder until Judgement Day. That is why we have government, that is why we have a morality that is the foundation of government.
Really?
I'm convinced. It is not that hard actually, to reach the conclusion that murder=wrong. Slavery was an issue that built an American party, and that was on a far more difficult set of similar argumentation's, as slavery is still in ancient practice around the world. Abortion however, still argues for a persons right to murder of convenience.
Thus a people are even less than a utility, but merely an undesired.
If your arguement is simply that of who wins and who loses and that is the end of the matter (reducio ad absurdem) and majority rules than maybe you are right. i prefer to argue from a truth that is rooted in an objective and foundational truth, namely that it is wrong to destroy an innocent human life for any reason save a serious medical threat to the woman's physical health or life, a situation that covers lesws than 1% or so of all abortions. I
I ask you, is it right to kill a human being because you want to go to law school, or to fit into a prom dress, or because your boyfriend has left you, or to save you embarrasing questions, or as Oprah Winfrey put it "that the trajectory of my life would have been different?" If you think that is acceptable than you HAVE internalized the logic of Nazi science. The unborn is an untermensch preventing the establishment of lebensraum, my personal lebensraum to allow me to live and prosper.
This does require the denial of humanity to the unborn. You cannot wantonly kill that to which you have assigned humanity. That is why your side works overtime to convince us that it is not unless Mom (or Dad if he can persuade her) wants it.
You really like to hear yourself talk, don't ya?
And there will be women- who want to kill their children. Really. And mothers of girls who don't want them to "ruin" their lives or reputations by bringing offspring to term. And boyfriends who don't want to be burdened with kids. Once upon a time, the Pater Familias had the right of life and death over his children, even the grown ones. We are above that. We have given the right to the whole family.
Enjoy your awards while you can, Imelda. You can't take them with you to Hell.
It is obvious that you are out of arguments. When I make this sort of ethical sense, yes I do like to hear myself talk. Maybe you are coming to realize that their may be something wrong with your position. There now. I understand. I was pro choice too back when I was a lib and morally confused.
How a man can actually go trough the physical act of love with such a "women" is beyond my comprehension, is it out of some kind necrophiliac eroticism for him to insert his member into the scene where a human butchery took place?
But than if a man can insert into another mans can hole I suppose the distinction is not too dissimilar, and the dysfunction foreseeable. for one is an exit hole for a human beings waste, the other an exit for the waste of human beings.
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