Posted on 12/13/2004 5:36:33 PM PST by blam
Thanks for the link. From the site:
'The Great Sphinx is much less lion-like than generally assumed, and appears to be a dog-cat-human hybrid.'
here's links to three copies of the same paper:
Redating the Sphinx
http://members.aol.com/davidpb4/sphinx1.html
Redating the Sphinx
http://www.earlyworld.de/RedatingtheSphinx.htm
The pyramids and the Sphinx were once under water
http://falundafa-newengland.org/MA/science/pyramids.htm
Heh... that link looks mighty familiar for some reason. ;')
I just took a look at Dr Schoch's new site:
http://www.robertschoch.net/
Schoch's links on the homepage are screwed up. Here's an example of a correct link:
http://www.robertschoch.net/articles.html
how does this explain the extreme weathering on the body of the sphinx?
Geological Evidence of the Sphinx
Dr. Robert M. Schoch
http://www.robertschoch.net/articles/geological_evidence_sphinx.html
"Based on my field observations of the granite ashlars and the underlying limestone blocks, I believe that the limestone core blocks of both the Sphinx Temple and the Valley Temple were exposed to the elements and underwent considerable weathering and erosion before the granite was put into place. In places the backs of the granite facing blocks were cut in an irregular, undulating pattern so that they would complement or match the irregular weathering pattern on the limestone blocks that they were used to refurbish... The general Egyptological community agrees that the granite facing on the Sphinx and Valley Temples is attributable to Khafre... On site I found an inscription carved into the granite of the Valley Temple which according to West... appears, on stylistic grounds, to be an Old Kingdom inscription. It seems a good assumption that the limestone core blocks would have been freshly cut (that is, unweathered) when initially used to construct the temples. Therefore if the granite facing is covering deeply weathered limestone, the original limestone structures must predate by a considerable degree the granite facing. Obviously, if the limestone cores (originating from the Sphinx ditch) of the temples predate the granite ashlars (granite facings), and the granite ashlars are attributable to Khafre of the Fourth Dynasty, then the Great Sphinx was built prior to the reign of Khafre... As mentioned above, the ashlars bear Old Kingdom inscriptions and therefore must be at least as old as the Old Kingdom. But the Old Kingdom inscriptions could conceivably have been carved into still earlier structures."
[in the video, Schoch shows the spot where the inscription occurs, and the translation he gives is, "beloved of, living forever", IOW, two fragments of a longer original, i.e., the granite was quarried from an existing monument and laid over the eroded limestone original; this is actually a weak part of the theory, as the erosion could have occurred prior to the quarrying of the limestone, which was then assembled into the two temples; in that case, the granite could have been obtained from another abandoned structure during, say, the New Kingdom, when the Giza monuments experienced a bit of a renaissance. IMHO, I agree with Schoch et al that the head was recarved; my view is that it was done during the Ethiopian Dynasty / 25th Dynasty]
Heh.... and I thought Swordmaker's use of "dogmatic" was funny...
Earlier populations were much more primitive. They didn't build stuff for one thing. However, there were undoubtedly itinerate Sumerians coming into the area for raw materials.
The Nile valley was a wild place in those days without civilization.
Get your time line together. When Neolithic Semitic speaking Egypt started the old mushroom culture was gone! Did these guys use dope? I don't know. Probably. Everybody used dope in the old days. Now, did they use Soma? Could be. Probably if they traveled to Sumer or the far North they did, or even to the top of a mountain somewhere.
I think you're on to something....
Thanks.
You're welcome. When I said "the same paper", I meant those three links led to the same paper in three different places. Sorry for my confusing choice of words.
Just for you. :')
Pyramid Discovered at Abu Rowash
(not by) Zahi Hawass
Ministry of Culture
Supreme Council of Antiquities
Secretary General Office
http://www.guardians.net/hawass/new_pyramid_discovered_at_abu_ro.htm
[also related]
Djedefre - History
Ancient Egypt dot Org ^ | Last update: 8 May, 2003 | Jacques Kinnaer
Posted on 08/09/2004 4:25:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1188269/posts
I thought the “riddle of the Sphinx” was:
What walks with four legs, two legs and three legs?
An American politician trying to elected, or an American attorney trying to win his case.
An American politician trying to elected, or an American attorney trying to win his case.
It DOES rain in Egypt. And presumably has done so over the millenia. And when it rains in the desert - it rains HARD.
Other geologists - MOST geologists - who have examined the weathering explain it as due to wind and sand. So does Hawass.
So that one geologist who buys into the 10,000 year history of the sphinx is pretty alone on the weathering.
As for Djedefre building the Sphynx - its very possible.
With so much damage done to the features it could be hard to identify the image definitively.
As with a lot of Ancient History there is much room for speculation and not as much data as would be optimal.
Thank you for those sites. I have saved them in my favorites.
Ever read the book by Miroslav Verner on the Pyramids?
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