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Costco policy bans guns!
OFCC Action Alert (email alert) | 12/14/04 | KimRife

Posted on 12/14/2004 9:18:33 AM PST by KimRife

Saw enough "Costco" Topics here, figured there would be some interest: Received this from Chad Baus of OFCC yesterday:

The following was sent to OFCC - writer isn't a CCW-Talker, but said I could post this sans his name:

Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:27:56 -0500 Subject: Costco To: info@ofcc.net

Hello,

Costco as a CPZ yesterday. I also e-mailed them to find out why. I am forwarding their response.

Thanks, XXXXXXX

>From: customerservice@costco.com >Subject: RE: Warehouse Questions or Suggestions [APZ2004120900003499] >Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:47:42 -0800 > >To reference this e-mail in the future, please make >note of the tracking number listed in the subject >heading. This message may be monitored for quality >assurance. >--------------------------------------------------- > > >Dear XXXXXXX, > >Thank you for e-mailing Costco Wholesale. > >I am sorry but that is a corporate wide policy sent >down from our CEO. > >Thank you. > >Sincerely, > >Elizabeth H. >Member Service Phone Agent >ext.1716 >customerservice@costco.com > > -----Original Message----- >From: IMCReply >Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:20 AM >To: Elizabeth Hovanes >Subject: Warehouse Questions or Suggestions > >Note this message was submitted through the costco.com >web site customer >suggestion page on 12/9/2004 12:00:00 AM at >09:19:10.1535192. >==================================================== >Comment/Suggestion/Request/Question Text: > > I went to your store in Mayfield Heights, Ohio >yesterday. I noticed that a sign prohibiting concealed >weapons permit holders from bringing their weapons into >the store. Is this a corporate policy? Do >you do this >in other states that allow concealed carry? Ohio is one >of forty five states that allow it. Ohio law requires >individuals with these permits to take extensive >training and undergo background check. >These are not the people you should worry about. A >person with criminal intent will ignore that sign. I am >also a member of BJ's and Sam's >Club. Neither of them >have posted these signs. If this sign stays up, >I will not be renewing my menbership. > >I have forwarded this information to the Ohioans for >Concealed Carry >website. They will place your store in >the "do not patronize" list. >=====================================================

It would be GREAT if anyone in a state OTHER THAN Ohio, would stop by the Costco nearest you next time you are in the area. See if they have a sign. If yes OR no post it here, or e-mail me at:kkacer@catlover.com with the address sate and your zip code (I can find the store zip that way and makes it easier for you).

And if anyone would care to let Costco know what you think: Member Services: 800-774-2678

Web address: http://www.costco.com

Costco's corporate mailing address is: PO Box 34331 Seattle, WA 98124

Costco's corporate offices are located at: 999 Lake Drive Issaquah, WA 98027

Have at.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; costco; firearms; guns; protest
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1 posted on 12/14/2004 9:18:34 AM PST by KimRife
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To: KimRife

Does Costco have the right to control access to their property?


2 posted on 12/14/2004 9:19:14 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: KimRife

Formatting is your friend.


3 posted on 12/14/2004 9:20:36 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: KimRife

I'm not sure how that works. Costco is private property, maybe they have the right to demand no weapons be brought inside?

Don't know, just asking. I'm from Ca. The most ridiculous state in the nation about this, so Need info.


4 posted on 12/14/2004 9:21:29 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Poohbah

Of course, but we have the right to defend ourselves, AND the right to find another place to shop.


5 posted on 12/14/2004 9:23:27 AM PST by KimRife (When citizens fear their gov't you have tyranny. When gov't fears its citizens you have freedom - TJ)
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To: KimRife

I understand your feelings but I also believe that a business owner should be able to ban smoking, drinking, concealed weapons, dress code, etc.. on their property.

BTW. I smoke, drink, carry, and dress crappy.


6 posted on 12/14/2004 9:23:37 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Proud member of Generation Jones. Born Jan 15, 1954. I was not a hippy or a liberal.)
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To: KimRife
Can't offer any input here. I'm from NJ. Only legal way to carry a gun is to dismantle it into parts and store the pieces separately in the trunk and glove compartment. :P
7 posted on 12/14/2004 9:23:55 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

But you are a dead shot with a bow and arrow ^-^


8 posted on 12/14/2004 9:24:42 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MineralMan

Sorry, every freakin' site is different. ;)


9 posted on 12/14/2004 9:25:20 AM PST by KimRife (When citizens fear their gov't you have tyranny. When gov't fears its citizens you have freedom - TJ)
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To: Poohbah

"Does Costco have the right to control access to their property?"


Sure, and gun owners have the right to patronize other establishments as well. If they want to create self-defense-free zones, gun owners should shop somewhere else.


10 posted on 12/14/2004 9:25:38 AM PST by need_a_screen_name
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To: KimRife

Well, there are three freedoms operating here:

1. Costco, as a private enterprise, has every right in the world to ban firearms from their premises.

2. As a consumer and citizen, you have every right to refuse to shop at Costco and to advise others not to shop there.

3. Every person has the right to either avoid Costco, or to shop there, as he/she chooses.


11 posted on 12/14/2004 9:26:09 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Poohbah
Does Costco have the right to control access to their property?

Yes they do, and I have the choice to not give them my business.

12 posted on 12/14/2004 9:26:23 AM PST by ASA Vet (What if there were no hypothetical questions?)
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To: KimRife
Signs, signs, I don't care about no stinkin sign.

It is concealed carry for a reason.

13 posted on 12/14/2004 9:27:58 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: MineralMan

Exactly. And as the Costcos I am aware of aren't in the "best" neighborhoods, I'd suggect Wal mart ;) Er...ChinaMart, whatever ;)


14 posted on 12/14/2004 9:28:17 AM PST by KimRife (When citizens fear their gov't you have tyranny. When gov't fears its citizens you have freedom - TJ)
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To: KimRife

"Sorry, every freakin' site is different. ;)"

And how does that affect your not bothering to format this properly on THIS site? Did you not look at the preview when you posted? If you did, why did you not correct the formatting? It would have taken just a few minutes.

Sorry, but if you're blasting around posting this message on various sites, you ought to at least take the time to make it presentable. Otherwise, your quest is in vain.


15 posted on 12/14/2004 9:28:18 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Poohbah
Does Costco have the right to control access to their property?

Yes, they do have a right to control who enters their property. That having been said, neither you nor I have any obligation to obey that request. Unless the signs they post have metal detectors in them they have no enforcement.

I recently joined our local Costco, despite knowing it is owned by a rabid-dog demonrat. If our store posts such sign I will immediately apply for a concealed carry permit after having procrastinated for far too many months, and enter the store and defy those signs to detect my concealed weapon.

Kind of like the idea of civil disobedience. That's something the crazed demonrat owner of Costco should understand.

16 posted on 12/14/2004 9:28:18 AM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Calpernia

I'm good with my handguns too. It is hard to conceal a bow.


17 posted on 12/14/2004 9:29:24 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Proud member of Generation Jones. Born Jan 15, 1954. I was not a hippy or a liberal.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

>>> It is hard to conceal a bow

Walk with a limp....let them wonder :P


18 posted on 12/14/2004 9:30:59 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Poohbah
Does Costco have the right to block blacks from their property?
19 posted on 12/14/2004 9:31:35 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: KimRife

Returned my Costco card and and now shop at Sam's Club.


20 posted on 12/14/2004 9:35:01 AM PST by BIGZ
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