Posted on 12/14/2004 5:26:27 PM PST by abu afak
MSNBC/ Hardball Wednesday Dec 8th Transcript (Found it after watching the actual interview last week)
Despite being Lead/Invited/Begged by Chris Mathews to say the Deal was a bad one, Abdullah .. to the contrary ..
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MATTHEWS: We get two views of the deal that was turned down by Yasser Arafat back at the end of the Clinton administration. One is that he was being offered a bunch of Swiss cheese, Israeli settlements all over the West Bank, big highways flying by little Arab communities, everybody cut off from each other and not a real country. And not enough influence, in fact, a sovereignty within Jerusalem. How did you see that offer? Was it a good offer or a bad offer that Yasser Arafat turned down?
ABDULLAH: I thought it was a Good Offer. It was not for me or anybody else in the Arab world to make that decision, it was up to the Palestinians. If we go back to 1998, we‘re talking about 98 percent of the West Bank and Gaza. We‘re talking less than 40, 50 percent today. What will we talk about tomorrow? And I have to point out again, a viable independent Palestinian state and the problem is the viability aspect of this.
MATTHEWS: What are the parameters? What does it take to be viable?
Jerusalem?
ABDULLAH: Jerusalem and a decent part of the West Bank that makes sense. If you have cantonize (ph) the West Bank and have just little hamlets and pockets of Palestinian Authority, that‘s not a state. There will never be the feeling of reassurance between the Arabs and Israelis to move..."
The complete transcript along with Abdullah's opinions on Iraq etc at:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6685867/
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
I thought it was a Good Offer. It was not for me or anybody else in the Arab world to make that decision, it was up to the Palestinians. If we go back to 1998, we‘re talking about 98 percent of the West Bank and Gaza.
I don't know King, lots of folk even on FR say that wasn't offered. They must have better sources.
Will the left in the world now say that Israel controls the Jordanian gov't?
I can't believe this Statement/answer of Abdullah's didn't cause an uproar.
It should have been reported Everywhere.
Really an amazing admission/revelation.. as it also implies the whole intifada, and the deaths it caused, were Arafat & co's Fault.
Chris Mathews glossed right over it after trying to lead him to say the oppposite, instead of saying "You think it was a Good offer"!
It was a good offer, not for peace, but an offer which would have greatly empowered the PLO goal of destroying Israel in stages.
"Tears of Heaven" and "Miracle of Fire" (Two strings that Belong in the Religion NOT News section anyway) were posted at 4:47 and 4:49 PM..
My string was posted at 5:27PM..
YET .. his two strings leapfrogged on Top of my String on Abdullah AND SJackson's string/"Measure Palestinians"posted at 5:51
(in 'Browse Israel' or any other News section/order).
Strings should, and usually do, appear Latest on top.
THAT is what I mean. How did they Jump?
Yonif, you a mod by any chance?
When I am looking at the latest posts, your Jordanian post is ahead of my 2 other threads, according to the time. When it comes to the "Israel" topic mine are ahead because I added Israel as a topic after I posted them (not to move them ahead or anything, but just to add a topic), which is why it is like that.
Short answer...YES.
You Do of course understand that the Jews control the world.
Well actually to be exact the Jews and the Samoans.
It was the best deal the PLO was ever going to see.
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
The "Palestinians" are just ethnically undifferentiated Arabs living in Israel.
Gaza is a good place for the last sovereign independent Arab state.
The "West Bank" is part of Israel. Back when King Hussein ruled the West Bank, there was never any move by anyone to have it be anything but a part of Jordan (other than when Israel tried its best, prior to 1967's Six Day War).
"It was the best deal the PLO was ever going to see."
Unfortunately, even the Palestinians have learned by experience that Israel's advisers (like the Quartet) will go on and on pushing, shoving, encouraging, swearing at Israel until we offer more and more in return for less and less. Why should they accept any offer at all when they know that the UN and the Quartet and everybody else will tell Israel to increase the offer until it includes Jerusalem and the coast - i.e. all of Israel?
""""You Do of course understand that the Jews control the world....""""
Yes.. I know... Just buzz me if you need anything. I'm in charge of Media in the Northeast; that's why this small burp was upsetting to my usual control.
seincerely, illuminati
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From: Kohein Gadol
Date: October 27, 2003
With the holidays of Sukkos and Simchas Torah now over, we can all get back to the ongoing task of controlling the world's economy, media, water and food supply (to name only a few of our key interests).
Many of you have spoken to me about being troubled by having our international conspiracy exposed by the recent remarks of the outgoing Prime Minister of Malaysia, Mahathir Mohamad. Let me remind you that it was our brilliant strategy to give him the soapbox (in English, no less) at the Islamic Conference in Kuala Lumpur (which we, of course, also control) so that world democratic leaders under our control would condemn his comments. This would therefore convince people that his statements were false, and deflect attention from Iraq's democratization, so that we could go back to our business of running the world without undue attention.
Now, some of you may ask why we would go to the trouble of allowing Mr. Mohamad to "expose" our venture in the first place, and should have just left things alone. That approach, is too simple and not worthy of our International Conspiracy methodology. We're Jews, things have to be complex and convoluted, or they don't work properly (I refer you to The Manual, Chapter One, Prime Directive 12).
As an example, let me illustrate this with some other of our ventures.
1. International Media. (Project #1249) - Since we control virtually every major daily newspaper and syndicated news service, including the major US and European television and radio networks, it is only natural that Jews and Israeli get consistently negative coverage and blame for all the ills of the world. Of course, this is the deliberate smokescreen we need - people would only naturally think that these media would support Jews since they are controlled by us.
2. UN General Assembly and Security Council (Project #2564) - Here again, since we fund the majority of the nation members, as well as the bureaucracy (not to mention holding the lease to the Headquarters building in New York and other facilities in Geneva, The Hague, etc), we deliberately allow most Muslim and Third World dictatorship nations to consistent heap abuse on Israel, while ignoring the human rights failings of most member nations. Of course, in order to make it appear not so totally one-sided, we let the US have a veto on the Security Council, and allow Micronesia and a few other countries support Israel against the lopsided Muslim/Third World bloc voting. I am sure you would agree that the strategy is indeed brilliant, since it convincingly hides our efforts. In particularly, giving Syria membership on the Security Council and Libya chairmanship of the Human Rights Commission is a perfect smokescreen for our efforts.
3. The Israeli Economy (Project #4385) - One would logically think that, if Jews are so smart and skilled in business, if you had a whole country full of them, that country would be the Singapore of the Middle East. The fact that the current Israeli Economic Recession (Project #5437) is as profound as it is, (due to the impact of the post-September 11 world recession, high-tech meltdown, and the Palestinian Intifada) is a brilliant mask for its behind-the-scenes success. Much credit should be given to the Histadrut for making the Recession even worse that it is by calling for another General Strike. Both the world and Israelis are now convinced that the country is in its worst recession ever, when in fact, it is showing its best economic year ever.
I could go on, but I think I've already said too much Finally, I would like you to pass the message on to the Pope and Queen Elizabeth that their sales quotas from the international illicit drug trade are slightly down. Frankly, we really don't want to hear excuses from them about the impact of the Canadians legalizing marijuana. We fully expect them to meet quota and revenue streams by year-end. Or else.
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