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LAPD Plan to Curb Flashlight Beatings
Yahoo news ^ | 12/15/2004 | Unknown

Posted on 12/15/2004 12:25:58 PM PST by Lazamataz

LOS ANGELES - The city's police commission unveiled a plan Tuesday aimed at discouraging officers from using flashlights as weapons, except in emergencies.

The proposal comes months after a telvised beating by Officer John Hatfield showed him striking a motorist 11 times following a foot chase. The June 23 incident sparked widespread objection to the use of flashlights as weapons.

"Officers don't mind being held accountable as long as they have a clear policy to follow, and that's what we're providing here," said Alan Skobin, vice president of the police commission.

The proposed policy, to be considered Jan. 11, stops short of the near-total bans on practice enacted in other large cities. It states that flashlights should only be used for light and should only be used as a weapon in very unusual circumstances.

The proposal seems to permit officers to use flashlights to stop violent suspects, said Bob Baker, president of the Police Protective League, the Los Angeles Police Department officers' union.

"We support policies that, at the end of the watch, mean we are going home safe," Baker said.

Ricardo Garcia, criminal justice director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California, said the proposal was a good start.

"But I'd like to see them move away from even this permissive a use of flashlight," Garcia said. "On the positive side, at least this will give officers some training on how if they're going to strike with a flashlight to do it. Before this, they could pretty much do anything."

At the time of the Miller incident, the LAPD had no formal policy on proper use of a flashlight to subdue a suspect.

After the beating, Chief William J. Bratton said he would forbid the use of heavy metal flashlights like the one used by Hatfield. Bratton said the department would develop small, lightweight rubber flashlights, which it is still in the process of doing.

The new proposal would require a written explanation and critical review whenever a flashlight is used as a weapon.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: beating; donutwatch; flashlight; govwatch; lapd; rodneyking
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To: Lazamataz

Outlaw flashlights and only outlaws will have...well, you know.


21 posted on 12/15/2004 12:36:20 PM PST by TheBigB (Smartass remarks $5.00...with extra pithiness $2.00 more!)
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To: stainlessbanner

22 posted on 12/15/2004 12:37:50 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Never underestimate the power of a cacophony of Cowbells played in unison...It shocks the mind.)
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To: TheBigB

< obligatory > 3-day cooling off period for flashlites


23 posted on 12/15/2004 12:38:03 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Lazamataz
EEeeeeeevil flashlights! There oughtta be a law!

Confiscate them all!

24 posted on 12/15/2004 12:38:10 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Lazamataz

Who are beating the flashlights and why are they doing it?


25 posted on 12/15/2004 12:38:33 PM PST by aomagrat (Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.)
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To: K4Harty
<---This is the "Thumper"
26 posted on 12/15/2004 12:38:58 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Never underestimate the power of a cacophony of Cowbells played in unison...It shocks the mind.)
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To: stainlessbanner

These are obviously ASSAULT flashlights!


27 posted on 12/15/2004 12:39:02 PM PST by TheBigB (Smartass remarks $5.00...with extra pithiness $2.00 more!)
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To: Lazamataz

What's wrong with letting the criminal "See the Light" (and then see stars)?


28 posted on 12/15/2004 12:40:00 PM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: Lazamataz

An exchange I had while working in corrections:

Citizen: Is that a Club?

Slim: No, it's a Baton.

Citizen: What do you do with it?

Slim: I club people.


29 posted on 12/15/2004 12:40:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (I'm here because I'm not all there.)
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To: Lazamataz

We need to pass some Flashlight Control legislation, right now!


30 posted on 12/15/2004 12:40:42 PM PST by Ryan Spock
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To: aomagrat
And What did Bush know and when did he know it? /sarcasm
31 posted on 12/15/2004 12:40:58 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Never underestimate the power of a cacophony of Cowbells played in unison...It shocks the mind.)
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To: Lazamataz
Nerf bullets.

Already been done. Now the LAPD just needs to procure a few!


32 posted on 12/15/2004 12:41:01 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Lazamataz

The very reason why cops hold their six "D" cell MAG-LITEs by the front with the handle on their shoulder while you look for your license is so if you make one false move they can crack your skull with it. This is common knowledge told to me by a cop.


33 posted on 12/15/2004 12:41:16 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Culture_Values_Morality
The NEW L.A.P.D. Tactical Arrest Gear (TAG)...


34 posted on 12/15/2004 12:41:51 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: K4Harty; TheBigB; Lazamataz; Tijeras_Slim

"When did you stop beating your flashlight?"


35 posted on 12/15/2004 12:43:38 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Lazamataz
Sheeesh, they could ruin the flashlight.

They should stick to using their hardened nightsticks, that's what they were desiged for.

36 posted on 12/15/2004 12:45:00 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Lazamataz

I bet the LAPD only beats the black flashlights. They gotta stop beating up the poor flashlights!

I hope the NAAFL can shed some light on this sore subject. (National Aassociation for the Advancement of Flashlights


37 posted on 12/15/2004 12:45:23 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: stainlessbanner
Bill Clinton model...


38 posted on 12/15/2004 12:47:12 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (I'm here because I'm not all there.)
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To: stainlessbanner

We got trained in USCG LEO school how to use a maglite as effectively as possible to make a suspect compliant.


39 posted on 12/15/2004 12:47:16 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: K4Harty

Dang, as the Greaseman would say, a good thorough application of that 6-Cell and the perp will be spittin' chiclets...


40 posted on 12/15/2004 12:47:35 PM PST by Hatteras
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