1 posted on
12/16/2004 6:28:43 AM PST by
Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the post Poke.
Thanks especially for posting the entire article and not unnecessarily excerpting it.
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62 posted on
12/16/2004 9:03:35 AM PST by
upchuck
(This tag line shutdown for it's "30,000 messages posted" check up.)
To: Pokey78
Whoa, Poke, that was a column and a half! Worth the wait, IMHO.
What Timothy Garton Ash calls the Enlightenment has degenerated under its present trustees into a doomsday cult with all the coerciveness of the old state religion and none of the eternal truths.
It's actually Enlightenment Lite - all the frippery of that wonderful period and none of the substance. Most Enlightenment philosophers - particularly the French - felt that an appreciation of God need not be mediated by a clerical social class; their latterday wannabes have dispensed with God altogether. It's sort of a different thing.
Where the Enlightenment held for a limited government accountable to the people, its latterday keepers - particularly the French - opt for a stifling, overbearing bureaucracy accountable to no one. Where the Enlightenment decried the divine right of kings to govern, its latterday keepers opt for the divine right of self-proclaimed intellectuals to do so. Where the Enlightenment attempted to dispense with social class as a measure of a man's worth its latterday keepers are doing their very best to construct new ones - race, gender, sexual preference - to be man's measure.
This may be somebody's idea of Enlightenment, but it isn't mine.
To: Pokey78
Im not an absolutist in these matters. Im a red stater when it comes to God and guns, but I like European art-house movies where Juliette Binoche or Isabelle Huppert take their kit off. Its a question of balance.Preach it, Brother Steyn! PREACH it -- ! :)
68 posted on
12/16/2004 9:52:39 AM PST by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
(I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
To: Pokey78
Bump for later bookmark or copy.
There are times when I think I was born a century, or two centuries, too late. But then reality gives me a good shaking, and I recollect all the things I would have missed had I been born then Mark Steyn's columns are one of those great blessings of our modern age.
69 posted on
12/16/2004 9:53:48 AM PST by
Renfield
(Philosophy chair at the University of Wallamalloo!!)
To: Pokey78
To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings
71 posted on
12/16/2004 9:58:47 AM PST by
knighthawk
(We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
To: Pokey78
Thanks for the post.
Steyn is the best writer out there IMHO.
To: Pokey78
An "AIN'T IT GREAT HE'S BACK?" Bump.
Thanks, Pokey.
74 posted on
12/16/2004 10:12:03 AM PST by
moonhawk
(Democrats are to "Diversity and Tolerance" as Islam is to "Peace.")
To: TXBubba
Ping. Hey TX--this is a good one.
77 posted on
12/16/2004 10:40:11 AM PST by
beaversmom
(The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
To: Pokey78
Way Cool Steyn Bump
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
79 posted on
12/16/2004 10:52:22 AM PST by
alfa6
To: Pokey78
"What Timothy Garton Ash calls the Enlightenment has degenerated under its present trustees into a doomsday cult with all the coerciveness of the old state religion and none of the eternal truths."
Mark Steyn is a genius of pithy prose.
To: Pokey78
81 posted on
12/16/2004 11:30:59 AM PST by
Tribune7
To: Pokey78
BTTT
I would love to see more people write this way. Start the backlash against the secular onslaught.
82 posted on
12/16/2004 11:36:10 AM PST by
hattend
(Christ is the reason for the season)
To: Pokey78
85 posted on
12/16/2004 12:35:46 PM PST by
spodefly
(I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
To: Pokey78
Thanks, Pokey. Excellent stuff.
86 posted on
12/16/2004 12:41:51 PM PST by
Defiant
(Democrats: Don't go away mad, just go away.)
To: Pokey78
Styen is one of the few clear thinkers out there.
88 posted on
12/16/2004 1:08:53 PM PST by
redgolum
(Molon labe)
To: Pokey78
Thank you, Pokey. I was starting to shrivel-up and take on a grinch appearance without a Steyn refresher; I hope he's back for good!
89 posted on
12/16/2004 1:35:58 PM PST by
UnklGene
To: Pokey78
Another good one from Steyn.
100 posted on
12/16/2004 6:05:48 PM PST by
Ciexyz
(I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
To: Pokey78
102 posted on
12/16/2004 6:34:47 PM PST by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Pokey78
"Europeans need to ally with blue staters and Canadians and so forth and draw a cordon bleu, as John Kerry would say, around George W. Bushs Jesusland, throttling it in its manger. "
It takes quite a bit to make me laugh out loud, but this did it.
The guy who said Europe was a defender of the Enlightenment is completely off track. Europe is currently following the philosophy of Marx and Nietzsche, not Newton or Pascal.
The danger is not their self extinction, but that in their desperation to fend off the Muslim invasion they turn to another Hitler. That is what I expect to happen.
105 posted on
12/16/2004 6:41:43 PM PST by
Forgiven_Sinner
(Praying for the Kingdom of God)
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