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A 1240-Year Record of Arctic Temperatures
Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change ^

Posted on 12/17/2004 2:27:50 AM PST by Exton1

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To: Exton1
"average summer temperatures rose rapidly by nearly 2°C from 1195-1220 A.D., ending in the warmest decade in the record" with temperatures near 4.5°C

Well, of course. Anyone who read their history remembers that Europe was in the dark ages. So all those Europeans probably lit up candles and oil lamps and, thusly, overheated the planet.

[The planet has had temp variations throughout. Global warming has happened before and it will happen again. Global cooling has happened before and it will happen again. Global changes (increased and decreased temps) have happened without much impact from humankind.]
41 posted on 12/17/2004 6:14:30 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Boot Hill

LOL! Some of us can still calculate mutual conductance (gm)
and explain space charge compensation on these old critters.


42 posted on 12/17/2004 6:16:17 AM PST by ijcr (Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ability.)
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To: Lurking2Long
People were also only an average of 5 inches tall back then because they weren't told to drink their milk as children...

And many of them died in car accidents because momma guv'mint didn't require seat belts.

You know - I've been hearing about global warming for about 12 years. Shouldn't it be noticeably warmer by now? Yet December in central Illinois is still cold. When is this stuff going to kick in and give my heat bill a rest?
43 posted on 12/17/2004 6:20:23 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: larrye2001; RightWhale
"Did you know that 10,000 years ago, the amount of oxygen in the air was about 35% and the pressures was twice because the earth was smaller, to day oxygen in some major cities is 22%, at 15 % all life dies"

I don't believe any of this.

44 posted on 12/17/2004 6:23:47 AM PST by blam
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To: larrye2001
Sounds like you've been into the Preparation H.   Better tell your mommie (if you're still visible.)
45 posted on 12/17/2004 6:34:09 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: larrye2001
"the pressures was twice because the earth was smaller,"

Of course! That's a no-brainer!

Everytime I drive to downtown Houston it takes me longer.
I've always known it was because the distance was expanding!

46 posted on 12/17/2004 6:49:07 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: farmfriend


47 posted on 12/17/2004 6:51:21 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: ijcr

Did you like the long winded way they took to say the tube had a high Avol ?! Where's Philbrick-Nexus when you need them?

--Boot Hill


48 posted on 12/17/2004 6:55:49 AM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Exton1
At the beginning of the 13th century, Donard Lake witnessed "one of the largest climatic transitions in over a millennium," as "average summer temperatures rose rapidly by nearly 2°C from 1195-1220 A.D., ending in the warmest decade in the record" with temperatures near 4.5°C.

Global warming created by those dang Europeans and their SUVs! ;o)

49 posted on 12/17/2004 7:00:55 AM PST by SuziQ (W: STILL the President)
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To: Gum Shoe
"are oxidizing and exhibiting unnatural color"

Watching TLC a few nights ago, some guys were trying to find an old city high in the Andes from the description of "a big white rock". The natives kept saying, no white rock around here.

They finally found it, but the white rock had lichen growing all over it with no one around for 400 years to keep it cleaned off.

50 posted on 12/17/2004 7:17:10 AM PST by Deguello
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To: Wonder Warthog

The one and only reason that the globalwarmingwhackos have steadfastly maintained that the Medieval Warming was not world wide is that the Science showing the warming there is Absolutely Irrefutable. When someone devises an equally good way of establishing that it was, in fact, worldwide, they'll figure out some other way to lie and obfuscate to their moronic target masses. I've yet to hear any of their vaunted "models" demonstrate any possible methodology for maintaining a warm Arctic for centuries without other major climactic ramifications, but their "faith" allows them to simply 'know' that earth is warmer now than ever before - because man's activities 'clearly' makes it that way.

It is amazing that those brilliant and super-advanced Islamists and Chinese and Africaners and Native Americans didn't maintain weather records during the 10th-17th Century so they could show how steady the global temperatures were for today's envirowhackos. A mere oversight on their parts, I suppose.


51 posted on 12/17/2004 8:22:40 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Exton1; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
52 posted on 12/17/2004 8:51:44 AM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: Exton1

A 1240-Year Record of Arctic Temperatures

And here's the guy who's been keeping those records all these years!


53 posted on 12/17/2004 8:56:33 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!!


54 posted on 12/17/2004 9:03:33 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: aliquis

Should we be turning off our ceiling fans to conserve air? I've been debating this for five years. And I've been wondering if its better for us to exit the truck via one door, instead of taking air out of the truck via two doors. I think this would increase the air supply by 3 percent if we could all adopt to my measures.

Any fool that throws "so-called" facts out on the table concerning 10,000 years ago...I automatically dismiss their argument. You can't prove very much...except tree rings in Redwoods or Artic ice collection...which doesn't really tell an entire picture.


55 posted on 12/17/2004 9:13:32 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Actually, Dan Rather has received a PowerPoint presentation from Leif Ericson complaining about glaciers melting and taking all the fun out his luge runs.


56 posted on 12/17/2004 10:06:36 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: larrye2001

That is quite a load. Wide, too.


57 posted on 12/17/2004 10:56:35 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: larrye2001

Who told you that?


58 posted on 12/17/2004 11:08:39 AM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: Always Right
Well, thanks for the ping, but I'm not sure what I was supposed to learn that I didn't know already.

The Baffin Island record only goes until 1990. From the late 1800s to present (I think that they say the instrumented record is 108 years long (?), six of the 10 warmest years on record occur SINCE 1990. 2004, according to the World Meteorological Organization, will be the fourth-warmest year on record, after 1998, 2002, and 2003.

The Role of the Sun in 20th Century Climate Change


59 posted on 12/17/2004 11:51:57 AM PST by cogitator
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To: Exton1

The human impact of Vikings on the environment should be noted. When it got warmer the Vikings traveled farther. When it got colder, they didn't. Therefore the Vikings (human technology) caused the global warming and now their anscestors feel guilt and remorse and will leave no oil well unturned to make amends for their sins.


60 posted on 12/17/2004 11:56:34 AM PST by NormalGuy (If not Normal, Spin it)
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