Report: Schwarzenegger urges GOP left turn

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[jakerobins]

Report: Schwarzenegger urges GOP left turn Saturday, December 18, 2004 Posted: 7:34 PM EST (0034 GMT)

Arnold Schwarzenegger

BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger suggested in a German newspaper interview published Saturday that the Republican Party should move "a little to the left," a shift that he said would allow it to pick up new voters.

[LauraleeBraswell]

HAHAHAHA

oh.. he was serious?

[RWR8189]

Seems we did just fine in November without "moving left"

[-=Wing_0_Walker=-]

Yeah, sure. Let's have an amendment to allow foreign born to become President. Then we would be like Europe, BARF.

[KoRn]

He's always been a liberal. Why should anyone be surprised?

When he announced he was running and he said "The children get first grabs on the Treasury" that was it for me as far as I'm concerned.

[kingattax]

the suggestion was made by Maria Schwarzenegger

[Blood of Tyrants]

Arnold is dead wrong on this. The last several elections have shown that the U.S. mainstream parade is turning right. If he doesn't like it, he can go lead the gay pride parade in San Francisco.

[AVNevis]

(R)nold forgot the lesson of the 2004 election and 2003 recall: It's OK to be conservative!

[tubebender]

Ping...

[Prime Choice]

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger suggested in a German newspaper interview published Saturday that the Republican Party should move "a little to the left," a shift that he said would allow it to pick up new voters.

Would the jackwits who want to alter the Constitution to accommodate this RINO please step forward now?

[cricket]

"Seems we did just fine in November without "moving left":

Actually, GW was more than accomodating in his four years to the Left. Did not help GOP or GW at all.

They want - WHAT they want - and little 'turns the left' only rewards their patience. . .

[cricket]

"Yeah, sure. Let's have an amendment to allow foreign born to become President. Then we would be like Europe, BARF"

Forgotabouthat. . .that is precisely why he trying to loosen up the GOP.

[Hildy]

A German publication? Somehow I think something may have been "lost in translation."

[TNCMAXQ]

I've been hearing this nonsense for decades. GOP can gain votes by changing its positions. What sense does that make?? Sell our souls to win elections, and have no core convictions? Win just for the sake of winning. I would rather see the party go down to defeat on principle.

[BobL]

"When he announced he was running and he said "The children get first grabs on the Treasury" that was it for me as far as I'm concerned."

I heard that also. Former (Los Angeles) Mayor Dick Riorden, a Republican, said basically that he was going to re-shape the Republican Party once he became governor.

Unfortunately for him, he said it before the Primary, and saw his large lead vanish, before getting trounced.

Maybe Arnold's role models is the Illinois Republican Party, where the Chairman rides on the lead float, during Chicago's Gay Pride Parade.

Like Mr. Riorden, Arnold is about to get his head handed to him by mainstream Republicans. Celebrity-appeal will only get him so far - and not far enough.

[mull]

And not that I would want to put much stock in a poll, but didn't I see one just the other day that showed the GOP with one of its largest advantages ever in party identification? Seems we must be doing something right.

[jb6]

Sorry Arnie, I don't want those voters. God, he's definitly proving a RINO, but that's Kaliphornication, what to expect?

[Cicero]

The only reason Arnold got elected in the first place is that the Republican voters in California were deprived of the opportunity to vote in a primary election because of the machinations of Karl Rove and Gerald Parsky.

Frankly, if Arnold doesn't start doing a better job than he's done so far, it's not clear that he will be re-elected as governor next time around. A lot of people held their noses on the right-to-life issue in hopes that at least he would fix the budget. He has done neither. The stem cell research initiative is an abomination, and he has done nothing to cut spending.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

Let the losers come to US on the Right.

This stuff is why I voted for Tom McClintock instead of Arnie. In ADDITION to Arnie's fiscal liberalism.......Baaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!

[nj26]

Thanks for the advice, Arnold.

We move any further to the left, and Hillary's going to be running to our right.

By the way, did Maria give you this gem of wisdom?

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[KoRn]

The perfect DIM candidate would be a pro life, pro gun rights, and not in your face pro gay candidate. They could do that and be the typical tax and spend liberal and win big. The shame for them is they could NEVER survive a DIM primary campaign.

[calcowgirl]

"I would like people to remember me as someone who raised standards, wherever I got involved." he was quoted as saying.

Raised standards? What a crock.

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[BobL]

"The shame for them is they could NEVER survive a DIM primary campaign."

That kind of candidate may be able to survive a primary in the south - and that kinda scares me. Lucky for us they haven't figured that out yet.

[KoRn]

Just shows how extreme they are on social issues, and how they are in big trouble.

[BobL]

"We move any further to the left, and Hillary's going to be running to our right."

Actually, that is exactly what's she's doing. She's already on the right on terrorism. Now she's getting to Bush's right on immigration (not very hard to do). And notice how she keeps a very, very, low profile on most explosive issues. She's laying low and building up a record, prior to striking.

We really do have to be careful about getting outflanked on the right. After all, that's how Bush-41 got defeated.

[nj26]

Agreed. We need to move to the right, and take a stand on principle. We lose our principles and compromise our values by moving left, and Hillary can run to our ideological right, and we will also be a point of moral equivalency.

[calcowgirl]

Your work highlights what irks me. First they join the republican party, then do everything they can to undermine the platform and turn it into a party that supports dem ideals. If they want to move left, change parties!

[BobL]

Yea, it's insidious, but it did happen to Bush-41.

Consider:

Bush-41 raised taxes.
Bush-41 gave us the Americans with Disabilities Act
Bush-41 renewed, with punishing requirements, the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act
Bush-41 gave us the quota bill

Clinton promised a Middle Class Tax Cut.
Clinton promised to end welfare as we know it.

And, if you can believe it, Bush-41 was portrayed as a tool of the extreme Right Wing.


Regardless of the results of Clinton, that's where things stood on election night, 1992. We had been out-flanked by Clinton and the Dems on both the left and the right.

Not an easy thing to do, but Bush-41 let it happen.

[Texas Eagle]

It took a little while for him to show his true colors but it was inevitable.

[MN_Mike]

AREnold is full of sh*t. Another RINO smell...

[Prime Choice]

If they want to move left, change parties!

AMEN! If they're so hip on supporting Leftist planks, let 'em go to the damned Democrat party!

[Prime Choice]

Thank an Ahhnold-supporting RINO for this mess. Heck, send 'em a special Christmas card. Here's a suggested one...

[Clypp]

I have no objection to changing that requirement of native birth.
It's not as if Ahnold is going to be elected anyways.

[Prime Choice]

I have no objection to changing that requirement of native birth.

One question: no other nation on Earth allows foreign-borns to run for their highest office...so why the hell should the United States -- the world's only remaining superpower -- do such a damned stupid thing?

[BobL]

"I have no objection to changing that requirement of native birth. It's not as if Ahnold is going to be elected anyways."


While, that's true, I think you'll find that most people on this site think that 250,000,000 or so native-born Americans is enough to choose from. We're real leery about second-guessing our founding fathers.

[Clypp]

The United States has allowed non-American's to be president before. It's still a super power.

[Richard-SIA]

"F" him!

Looks like the Kali. citizens voted for Arnie and got Maria Kennedy.

I am SO VERY GLAD Arnie cannot run for prez, it is scary to see how many people vote their emotions over common sense.

[Prime Choice]

The United States has allowed non-American's to be president before.

Name them and when they served.

[Taggart_D]

Clinton promised to end welfare as we know it.

I don't remember a promise like that....but I do remember that the welfare reform during the time was FORCED onto Clinton by a Republican congress....and the increase in the stock market during that time can be tracked ALMOST TO THE DAY that the Republicans took over the check book in the house!

[Clypp]

Chester Arthur, the 21st person to hold the presidency was born 1829 in Dunham Flats, Quebec. He moved to the United States at the age of one.

[BobL]

"Clinton promised to end welfare as we know it."

"I don't remember a promise like that...."

No - he did, and it was central in his 1992 campaign. After he was elected, he was told by the Dem-controlled Congress, in no uncertain term, that the idea was DOA (not that his heart was ever in it, in the first place).

I was only when, as you noted, the Republicans forced it down his throat did it get to his desk - and was signed (to his credit).

[Prime Choice]

Chester Arthur, the 21st person to hold the presidency was born 1829 in Dunham Flats, Quebec. He moved to the United States at the age of one.

This would be interesting, were it not for Title 8 of the U.S. Code, Section 1401, which defines citizens of the United States at birth as:

• Anyone born inside the United States
• Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
• Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
• Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
• Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
• A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

And it's a bit interesting that Arthur was apparently the last such "foreigner" allowed into our highest office. Sounds like we learned our lesson.

[Col Freeper]

I have no objection to changing that requirement of native birth.

I do.

I also don't think it will ever happen.

[Mo1]

Don't think so

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

THAT looks an awful lot like Kool-Aid.

[nj26]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ca21.html

White House bio says he was born in Vermont.

[BobL]

"White House bio says he was born in Vermont."

Nice job on the research. Looks like there's deception taking place on this thread. Obviously someone wants this amendment real bad.

...and that's precisely what raises my suspicions about the whole thing.