Posted on 12/19/2004 11:12:34 AM PST by NYer
Uh, Muslims constitute well over a billion of the earth's population. The Pope has made it a hallmark of his pontificate to reach out to world, and church leaders. His action reflected his desire to keep open the lines of dialogue.
You have no idea what actions might, and might not, bring others to Jesus.
Perhaps you forgot that Jesus reached out to Samaritans, who were the scum of society.
Now, now, don't retreat just yet. I'll bet you have one or two more bits of silly sophistry packed away that you could throw at me.
"The United States will not let the Soviet Union dictate Poland's future with impunity," Reagan wrote the Pope on December 29, 1981.
"I am announcing today additional American measures aimed at raising the cost to the Russians of their continued violence against Poland. … Unfortunately, if these American measures are not accompanied by other Western countries, the Russians may decide to pursue repression, hoping to provoke a rupture within the Western world, while escaping the consequences of our measures. … I therefore ask your assistance in using your own suasion throughout the West in an attempt to achieve unity on these needed measures [economic sanctions on Poland and the Soviet Union]… I hope you will do whatever is in your power to stress these truths to the leaders of the West."
I know, I know, Reagan is just another left wing commie.
Many, many people, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, will vehemently disagree with you.
Uh-oh. I've seen these symptoms before. Pulse races, communication skills disintegrate, vision blurs. Good grief, man! You're suffering from debate rage.
"Sorry but I can't take this man seriously when the Catholic church at large allowed homosexuals unabated freedom to molest children, paid the parents off and they then repeated the same offenses. Later it turns out they were shipped to Rome.
Neither a homosexual "union" or a homosexual molester is okay in God's book but I find it to be a far worse crime to have a church covering up and allowing innocent kids to be molested. Atleast with these perverted "unions" both perverts want this hideous lifestyle choice. This man is a disgrace - okay, pile and flame away at me for highlighting this disgusting hypocrisy that is ON GOING in the Catholic church."America friend persons is persons Persons is not perfecte G-D is perfecte I do know what you write that is what you feel that is good that is what is free Thank you
We know you just want to win the war on terror, and we all do. But each human being on the planet has to make his own decision as to how to participate in this conflict. You do so in your own way, which I respect. I do not doubt that your resolve is true. But the Pope has his own way. We may not always agree with him, but he has been and continues to be effective at raising up world wide value for life and freedom. I'm grateful for what he has done, and I'm sure you will be able to appreciate it as well, once you've given him a second chance. I don't believe that he has said we should not have brought down Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq, by the way. Please re-read what he has said and post it here if you can prove me wrong. Also, I do not believe that he has sided with the PLO as you suggested above. He sides with humanity, and I also do not believe that he has said anything suggestive of abolishing the Jewish state of Israel, either. Please quote him here if you can prove that. What he may fail to do is take stands that are as stringent as you would prefer. I do not consider myself a peacemaker, but Christ did say "blessed are they."
"Uh-oh. I've seen these symptoms before. Pulse races, communication skills disintegrate, vision blurs. Good grief, man! You're suffering from debate rage."I am sorry thank you "You're suffering from debate rage"NO AMERICA FRIEND THAT IS NOT TRUTH! I write what I feel I am not "rage"
Comparing the inherent violence of Islam to the low social status of the Samaritans during Jesus' time is a non sequitur.
I think you continue to associate religious dogma with human beings who (may only temporarily) subscribe to it.
"We know you just want to win the war on terror, and we all do. But each human being on the planet has to make his own decision as to how to participate in this conflict. You do so in your own way, which I respect. I do not doubt that your resolve is true. But the Pope has his own way. We may not always agree with him, but he has been and continues to be effective at raising up world wide value for life and freedom. I'm grateful for what he has done, and I'm sure you will be able to appreciate it as well, once you've given him a second chance. I don't believe that he has said we should not have brought down Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq, by the way. Please re-read what he has said and post it here if you can prove me wrong. Also, I do not believe that he has sided with the PLO as you suggested above. He sides with humanity, and I also do not believe that he has said anything suggestive of abolishing the Jewish state of Israel, either. Please quote him here if you can prove that. What he may fail to do is take stands that are as stringent as you would prefer. I do not consider myself a peacemaker, but Christ did say "blessed are they."Thank you that is truth what you write!
The Vatican could have been firmer on Hitler , too. Appeasement just never works in the long run.
You need to quit relying on the evening news for your education.
The Pope told Aziz personally, prior to the war, that Iraq needed to comply with UN resolutions or suffer the consequences. Did your comrades Chirac or Schroeder ever say anything remotely resembling that?
"Why would John Paul II have met with Anton LaVey?
My point exactly. Why meet with religious leaders who condemn your God and deny the divinity of Jesus Christ? What is the point? On its own, reason is incapable of bringing anyone to Jesus Christ.
The Pope's visits sound more like the gestures made by politicians. Jesus Christ was no politician. There wasn't a political bone in His Body."Papiez is religijnym person,Jan Pawel II do know what love is love is not evil, G-D is love G-D love persons not one two three four persons all persons that is all persons that is life that is G-D love Thank you :}}}}
You're asking me to denounce a Christian religious leader for practicing what he preaches, what he sincerely believes is Biblical truth? I don't always agree with the pope, if that's what you'd like to know.
The Vaticans reply to Ronald Reagan as delivered by Silverstrini to Haig:
"The Vatican recognizes that the U.S. is a great power with global responsibilities. The United States must operate on the political plane and the Holy See does not comment on the political positions taken by governments. It is for each government to decide its political policies. The Holy See for its part operates on the moral plane. The two planes (politics and morality) can be complementary when they have the same objective. In this case they are complementary because both the Holy See and the United States have the same objective: the restoration of liberty to Poland."
It is an atack on life.... and the worship of death. It is the worship of the leftover and discarded.
Once again, you provide irrefutable confirmation that you are an idiot.
Is it? Are you part of the 44% who think we ought to put some restrictions on innocent American-born Muslim citizens?
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