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Trap in chilling net chat (Murdered mom baited in Net chat board)
Herald Sun (Australia) ^ | December 21, 2004

Posted on 12/20/2004 10:57:51 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative

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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
The evil in this world is just unconscionable! Who can you trust anymore. You try to teach your children to see the good in people and that people are inherently good...then these barbaric acts happens. God, I pray this dad finds peace and happiness in his new born daughter and this monster of a woman finds herself rotting in hell!
21 posted on 12/20/2004 11:25:04 AM PST by ladiesview61
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To: All

Pardon me for being late to the story but did this woman intend to sell the baby or keep her and pass her off as her own?

BTW, if the crime was committed in Missouri, that would be who had jurisdiction in prosecuting the woman. It might be possible, if any additional charges are necessary, that this woman is guilty of fraud.

And doesn't crossing state lines mean she may have committed a federal crime as well?


22 posted on 12/20/2004 11:25:56 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Let's REALLY Split The Country! (http://righteverytime3.blogspot.com))
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
The evil in this world is just unconscionable! Who can you trust anymore. You try to teach your children to see the good in people and that people are inherently good...then these barbaric acts happens. God, I pray this dad finds peace and happiness in his new born daughter and this monster of a woman finds herself rotting in hell!
23 posted on 12/20/2004 11:26:00 AM PST by ladiesview61
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To: Quilla

I keep thinking about picking up the puppy last February, and wondering if it would have been so easy and friendly if this Stinnet murder had taken place last year instead of now.


24 posted on 12/20/2004 11:26:29 AM PST by EllaMinnow (Merry Christmas, Y'all!)
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To: Sunshine Sister

What is going on with Kansas. With death penalty and CCW laws it seems more like Illinois or Mass. than midwest.


25 posted on 12/20/2004 11:27:29 AM PST by G32
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To: Redbob
The murder took place in Missouri, and I don't know the rules there.

Most death penalty cases call for more than just a horrific murder. Sometimes requirements include premeditation or the commission of another felony in connection with the murder. Kidnapping the baby and taking it across state lines would certainly meet the other felony requirement.

26 posted on 12/20/2004 11:27:33 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: EllaMinnow

To think, it could have been that easy. This is really one frightening tale that hits close to home. Stay safe Ella.


27 posted on 12/20/2004 11:29:57 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Sunshine Sister

Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

The murder happened in MISSOURI, which has a well functioning death penalty. I think she will find that out.

The child was kidnapped across state lines.


28 posted on 12/20/2004 11:31:18 AM PST by BallandPowder
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To: Rodney King
Is there any evidence of accomplices?

No one else has been charged

yet.

29 posted on 12/20/2004 11:42:27 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: I still care
I remember last year when ebayers traced down a case of fraud right to the house when the legal system claimed they "couldn't find" the fraudulent sellers.

I have a good friend who was swindled in this case, along with many others. The buyers had no reason to believe they were being ripped off, as the seller had several thousand feedbacks, at 99%+ postives. Once people paid, and didn't get their merchandise, they started communicating with each other, set up a Yahoo group, and eventually tracked the guy down. Without the internet, they probably never would have found him (although, you can say that without the internet, those people wouldn't have bought anything from him, but that's besides the point :) ).

30 posted on 12/20/2004 11:44:31 AM PST by Born Conservative (Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television - Archie Bunker)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

But Dan Rather says the Internet is full of rumors.


31 posted on 12/20/2004 11:47:45 AM PST by rabidralph (Keep your laws off my money.)
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To: Born Conservative

That's great. The empowerment of the individual is perhaps the greatest achievement of the internet. And that is working out in so many ways.


32 posted on 12/20/2004 11:48:48 AM PST by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Tall_Texan

She started passing the baby off as her own as soon as she got back home (which set off alarms with a couple of folks).


33 posted on 12/20/2004 11:51:46 AM PST by najida (Ya know what? It IS my birthday (tomorrow), so thanks for all the hunk pictures!)
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To: Quilla

You too. :)


35 posted on 12/20/2004 11:52:53 AM PST by EllaMinnow (Merry Christmas, Y'all!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I predict she will be offered a plea for 2nd degree murder, and plea out to a manslaughter charge. The defense has already set this one up perfectly. She lost her baby, was INSANELY fraught with grief and not thinking clearly. She will never be convicted of first degree murder. IMO


36 posted on 12/20/2004 11:53:10 AM PST by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they are all cockaroaches)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

This is rather freaky because it reminds me of a post to me from months ago. Someone posted to me on a thread I had posted months before about stillborn babies. It was the first and only post for that poster-name. And it made me rather disturbed as I was expecting at the time. The post was the last on this thread (the tagline plus a related website):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/877452/posts?page=61#61


37 posted on 12/20/2004 12:04:35 PM PST by petitfour
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To: dead
It clearly shows premediation.

I wonder if she has tried the same scheme more than once in the past month or so. Maybe she tried something before but the potential victim was not alone or there were other circumstances that made it too difficult to do this horrible crime.

I'm sure the authorities are looking at her Internet usage. The screen name alone should be enough to establish premeditation but if -- and I say if -- it was found that she has been "fishing" before that would really nail her coffin down airtight. Stupid monster thought she was so clever. This b*tch needs to be sent to hell as soon as possible.

38 posted on 12/20/2004 12:07:08 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: BallandPowder; TonyRo76
At one time in the last 5 years Missouri had 67 prisoners on death row. 66 men and 1 woman.

The woman had her sentence commuted to life in prison due to bad health, if I am not mistaken.

39 posted on 12/20/2004 12:10:28 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Pookyhead

There appear with some regularity stories about women who gave birth and never knew they were pregnant and men who were presented with babies who never knew their wives were pregnant and more than one baby stealing has been carried out by a woman who has convinced her husband that she has bêen pregnant.


40 posted on 12/20/2004 12:12:15 PM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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