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To: DixieOklahoma

If you are an American and you support secession from the Union, aid rebels fighting the US army and support an illegitimate regime that schemes with foreign powers against the US, then I think that qualifies you as a traitor. And Willie T. knew how to deal with traitors.

Anyway, my post (while I admit it was unnecessarily inflammatory) was not to re-argue the civil war or even the chick's right to wear the dress. I was just wondering how loyal Americans can look at that symbol of treason against the US and feel anything other than shame or anger.




86 posted on 12/23/2004 6:43:49 AM PST by Natty Boh
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To: Natty Boh

You misunderstand how many Southerners "look at that symbol."

To most of us it just represents home--the South.

I am totally against slavery and prejudice. In fact I have been all of my life (and yes, born and reared in the South).

So when I see the flag I think of all the things that are good about my fellow Southerners--the friendliness, the strong belief in Jesus Christ, the importance of family and friends, the community atmosphere of the many small towns and rural areas, the love of nature and farm lands and football.....

I could go on and on. But the point is the flag to us is not slavery. We hate that slavery ever existed here or in the North or anywhere. We are against slavery.

When people say they honor their heritage, to most it means they are proud to be Southerners and all that represents (including ancestors); but never does it mean that they are proud of slavery.

Southerners understand this-----the rest of the country doesn't.


87 posted on 12/23/2004 12:21:43 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Natty Boh
Incorrect. I am simply pointing out inaccuracys. FYI I am an Oklahoman first, American second. I also believe that any of the 13 original colonies have a right to suceed from the voluntary union of states for any reason whatsoever.

Also, the founders left no doubt about the right of states to suceed from the union if they felt it necessary.

Why do you think that Jefferson Davis was not brought up with charges of treason? The SCOTUS would have ruled that succession is legal. Once again, what would you do if some people from another state came to your home town and started rounding up all of the males and raping the women of said town, then burning all crops, while stealing anything of value? I would find the largest group fighting that massive murdering horde and join their ranks.

Shame, Treason, or Anger? where are you from little boy?
88 posted on 12/23/2004 10:43:28 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Alabama - in 2006 vote ROY MOORE governor! - don't let us down!)
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To: Natty Boh
First, I am not defending the actions of either side in a war that was fought nearly 150 years ago. Second, there are worse things than civil war. Acquiesence to a nanny state for starters. We may well be faced in the not-too-distant future between which side we will fight on, the social conservatives, or the amoral rabble. Before anymore reckless, immoral decisions, like Roe v Wade, are handed down by our courts I would rather shoulder a rifle in defense of our heritage even if it means killing fellow Americans in order to do so.

Anyone unwilling to die for their beliefs, most surely values only their own skin and such a one is not worthy to be called an American.

97 posted on 12/24/2004 7:22:50 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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