Posted on 12/22/2004 7:05:54 AM PST by Graybeard58
Spoken like a Libertarian with anarchist leanings.
I think we can assume he was proselytizing because he stated that he will not pursue the case in court. He seems a committed young man who understands that what he did was in violation of the Constitution and hence will not pursue it further at the expense of the state and his own pocket.
It is appropriate to explain this to your children (if you so determine); it is not an approproate usage of mathematics class time, especially were you told it was not appropriate by the principal.
Why even hire math teachers, just put in a computer dvd that throws random math problems and explains it with a monotone voice. /sarcasm
So what?
-the morality aspect -did you tell your children that bisexuality and or homosexsuality was wrong? That's What.
"Spewing Islam" is most appropriate in this nation and it is already being done. Ir is Christians who get fired for daring to speak of Christ.
http://www.dawanet.com/methods/publicschool.dawapublic.asp
"-the morality aspect -did you tell your children that bisexuality and or homosexsuality was wrong? That's What."
Of course I did; I always endeavor to tell them the truth.
""Spewing Islam" is most appropriate in this nation and it is already being done. Ir is Christians who get fired for daring to speak of Christ. "
BINGO!
"It is appropriate to explain this to your children (if you so determine); it is not an approproate usage of mathematics class time, especially were you told it was not appropriate by the principal."
I dont teach Math.
j/k
I understand your point, but I do think that it is not inappropriate for a MAth teacher to cover subjects the students bring up, say the recent Alexander the Great movie and then ask if he really were homosexual.
The firing of this teacher for using no more than 10 minutes of class time in perhaps nothing more than answering questions I think very inappropriate, unconstitutional and based on an erroneous interpretation of the First Amendment.
I was just pointing out how your position coincides with the NEA position which allows them to get away from teaching the basics and concentrate on not hurting the egos of the students.
This is in a letter, not an official government document, correct? If that is the case, then you can give it no more credit than you can the letter from President Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association that puts forth the notion of separation of church and state. Neither hold any water, but are just Presidents opining.
Then I suggest that your employer sets limits on your "first amendment rights". Right?
This reminds me of "Dead Poet's Society". Mr. Ziegler, I stand on my desk and applaud!
"This is in a letter, not an official government document, correct? If that is the case, then you can give it no more credit than you can the letter from President Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association that puts forth the notion of separation of church and state. Neither hold any water, but are just Presidents opining."
But they are useful for showing the intent of the Founding Fathers and noe of them ever expressed a view of the First Amendment that is the apparent consensus of Constitutional scholars today.
Nobody has hindered him from practicing his faith. He has been hindered from proselytyzing (sp?) while on the job.
Oh yes!
I fully realize that successful teaching is more than just the subject. However, I don't believe preaching in a math classroom at a public school is appropriate. There is a time and a place for that, a math classroom during the school day is neither of those.
Oh, and "what Dick Cheney said to Pat Leahy"!
No. More of your lies. He used a lot more than just 10 minutes. It was a daily thing with him. In the classroom, in the halls, etc. And he was suspended, not fired. He was only fired when he refused to abide by a direct instruction to cease.
But then you don't believe that the employer has the right to fire an employee for disobeying a directive and not following job guidelines.
"No. More of your lies. He used a lot more than just 10 minutes. It was a daily thing with him. In the classroom, in the halls, etc. And he was suspended, not fired. He was only fired when he refused to abide by a direct instruction to cease. "
You acuse me of lyhing and them lie in the same statement, heheh.
He WAS fired for his religious expression whether htey first suspended him or not.
And he admitted to speaking on the subject FOR UP TO 10 MINUTES in a class.
So again, yhou are the liar, not me, turkey.
'Oh yes!'
Oh, no it does not, turkey.
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