But then this is from the guys who keep assuring us that flying cars "ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER!"
Posted on 12/24/2004 12:18:11 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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Shroud was proven to be a 13th century fake several years ago.
Doesnt mean that Jesus was not the son of God, just that the Shroud was a very nice piece of art that got a reputation as something it was not.
It happens all the time.
There is a nice tagline around here that goes something like "Science answers how, Religion answers why".
The picture is not bad. It is what you would expect a Middle Eastern Jew to look like. But ultimately his physical appearance is irrelavant and bordering on idol worship.
I think the importance in all of this is because we have only a limited amount of scripture. Those of us who love the Lord always hope to know a little more. If having an idea of what He may have looked like helps one to pray than there is certainly no harm in that.
Of course people should be careful not to base one's faith on things like the shroud but how can we resist the idea of being a little closer physically to him? Can you imagine how it must have been to walk beside him as the disciples did? Awesome.
Fair enough. What you write makes a lot of sense, especially on a deeply emotional level.
I just become agitated when the debate about teh Shrouds authentiticy someone becomes linked with the debate about Jesus authenticity.
If evidence using modern scientific techiniques shows that the Shroud is not what some would like it to be- sobeit To cling to belief in the Shroud despite clear and indisputable evidence to the contrary (although this is not yet 100% the case) allows those who wish to sully the name of Christ an unfortunate opening.
I have seen Him. He doesn't look like that. His face is very angular. His lips are scruffy. His skin is pocked. His hair is dark and He isn't handsome. His nose is classic but large.
Well said.
I think that's the reason that we don't have physical things to link us to the Lord (I mean from the standpoint of items he used, touched, etc.)
There is always the danger of unintentionally worshipping the items.
(hmm, re-reading what I wrote, let me please say by way of clarification that I in no way mean to assume or intimate that you would fit into that category...)
To answer your question - no. I can't imagine it. I've tried to mentally project myself back in time (so to speak) to envision what that world must have been like and how it must have been for the disciples to relate to the Lord Jesus Christ personally. Consider John for example. Jesus truly loved him like a brother!
I've often asked myself if I had lived in that time period would I recognize the Messiah promised of old? Or would I be skeptical, a doubter - like Thomas?
But I delight in the fact that one day I'll meet Him face to face, not only as my Judge (not to condemnation) but also as my King and Savior.
Wow, that was a wordy post but I'm feeling a little verbose right now, I guess! :o)
So Jesus was Italian. You're right doing a computer rendering of Jesus based on a 13th century italian hoax is the ultimate in junk science.
Jesus was Jewish. He probably looked more like Jon Silver than a young italian kid from Florence.
Where did you see him?
You've seen Him? Where and under what circumstances?
Jesus was real, the shroud is fake. We can't learn what Jesus looked like from the Shroud since whoever faked it probably based the image on paintings from the period which always depicted Jesus the way they wanted him to look.
can anyone give me VERY SIMPLE instructions on how to post a picture?
But then this is from the guys who keep assuring us that flying cars "ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER!"
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