Posted on 12/24/2004 8:22:32 AM PST by Chi-townChief
Depends on what kind of pacifist. These left wing anti-war zealots are not true pacifists, they are traitors who only selectivly oppose violence when american interests are at stake but are war mongerers when american interests are not.
However true pacifists, like the amish, are generally consistant, and live out there ideals, in both theory and practise. I had a college teacher back in the day who called herself a pacifist, and was more or less a war mongerer.
By the way, Gandi, who is like the godfather of modernday pacifism, often was quick to point out the difference of cowardness and pacifism, and condemned cowards who used pacifism or non violence as a cloak to hide there cowardness.
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Another story where a peacenik, antiwar activist whacko had a son become an Army Ranger
Anti-war woman's trip to see son serving in Iraq has surprises for both
Yawn.
It takes more balls/ovaries to willingly die in the forum, eaten by lions, than you've got brains to understand what 'self-righteous' means.
Nah, of course not. The credit goes to him. I was just the catalyst. :-)
All that's left now is for the kid to get decorated for machine-gunning an allahful of islamikazis.
I'd PAY to see the look on Daddy-o's face when he heard *that*...
Maybe this idiot will be slightly less supportive of the terrorists now.
Even "true" pacifists like the Amish are parasites, because they can only survive in a robust and free society which will protect them from external dangers, at times with violence. This doesn't mean I despise the Amish. God bless them. But let's be clear: any persons or groups who depends exclusively on others to defend them are parasites.
Then go ahead and die in the forum, parasite. Go and get eaten by lions. AMF parasite.
Thats part of the hitch. They really don't ask for or want protection.
The one amish person I met was absolutley (and bizarely) okay with the idea that they could be wiped out. Some of them would do absolutley nothing but die if they were attacked. Yet I give them repect on one thing, some of them have served in the armed forces, usually in a non-combat role.
I don't know how that doesn't conflict with there religious beliefs, but I know they have done it in the past. I'll grant them this, they don't ask for, nor want, protections of the government in regards to there safety, they do not protest war, and they pay more in taxes they they could ever remotely hope to recieve back in services from the government.
Unlike the fake pacifists of today, who are not anti-war but anti-america, I have yet to see any evidence that the amish do anything but give respect to this country.
I, in no way wish to belittle anyone's attendance of a graduation ceremony, nor suggest the majority political opinions of those who attend such ceremonies. But I've known a large number of soldiers whose parents, and parents of soldiers, who attended these graduations. In every case they were,as far as I could determine, of a political bias, that most FReepers would call radical leftwingers. All were quite proud of their sons service.
Currently one of them, is a self employed woman in her 50s, who currently works out of the same office I do, and looks like a skinny burned out hippie. Though she talks way to much politics to be a hippie. She is, what FReepers would call a staunch died in the wool active radical leftwing peacenik. She supported Kerry of President, but viewed him as a warmonger.
But change the subject to her son's military service or her attendance at his basic training graduation (which she took time off for, that she could barely afford to travel to or attend), and you find it impossible to believe the word coming out of her mouth.
People really are complex beings.
As long as he's a peacenik, he will always think war is unjust and based on lies. He's been a peacenik since college. As a matter of fact, this article describes him as a big peacenik-card-carrying-world class, marching in anti-war protests during Vietnam.
God works in mysterious ways, doesn't He?
I'm totally pro-Amish. I'm glad they've found a place under the sun where they can flourish. But make no mistake, they survive in their little bubble of pacifism because others outside of their bubble protect them. Even if they don't technically ask for it. Technically.
OTOH, you don't notice Amish moving to Colombia or Russia or Iraq. There's a reason why, no matter what they say about not "asking" for protection.
>"ROFLMHO! Since Pfleger's not supposed to have kids anyway, I >find this deliciously ironic. :-)"
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>Yeah, no kidding! I, too, wonder how a catholic priest has >kids!?!
Did you guys even read the article? BOTH his sons were adopted. I don't think it says you can't adopt, only procreate, or do the act to procreate.
I read the article...maybe not as thoroughly as I should have! On the other hand, I figured if Lamar had been adopted, the article would have read "...whom he ALSO adopted..." (see quote below). There doesn't seem to be a mention that Lamar IS adopted...maybe I missed it. OTH (again) the priest is apparently white and Lamar is black. (which ALSO means nothing these days). At any rate, thanks for your comment.
"(In addition to Lamar, Pfleger has a younger son, 25-year-old Beronti, whom he adopted 13 years ago.)"
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