Posted on 12/27/2004 7:55:49 PM PST by wagglebee
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A comment Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld made during a Christmas Eve address to U.S. troops in Baghdad has sparked new conspiracy theories about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
In the speech, Rumsfeld made a passing reference to United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania after passengers attempted to stop al Qaeda hijackers.
But in his remarks, Rumsfeld referred to the "the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania."
A Pentagon spokesman insisted that Rumsfeld simply misspoke, but Internet conspiracy theorists seized on the reference to the plane having been shot down.
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Who really cares.....this is long past...besides why not shoot the flight down if it was intended to hit another place in DC...we were under attack....Geeezzzz...isn't that why we have an Air Force!!! I for one would expect our leaders to step up to the plate when under attack and attack back, immediately.
I am sorry to hear about your father. I also believe that the passengers on that plane fought with the terrorists. However, I also believe that all communications, including cell phones, was lost on that plane at the end. And I still believe that there is a possibility that the plane was shot down to prevent it from causing destruction somewhere else.
You mean like the French guy who said that NO PLANE hit the Pentagon?
OK. I refer you to post #117.
And could you offer an explaination of what your theory actually is?
Yes, be glad to. My theory is that when all communications with flt 93 was lost the government ordered that the plane be taken down by the Air Force over an unpopulated area.
The debris field is the only evidence you've offered to support your theory the Air Force shot down Flight 93. But you have no evidence Flight 93 ever flew over the area in which debris was found. And when an explaination is provided for how things like singed check stubs are found 8 miles from the crashsite you have no response other than to repeat your entirely unsupported theory. Do you understand how the term "conspiracy nut" evolved?
Sorry that I amuse you. I would not want to think I am helping you form erroneous conclusions based on a lack of knowledge, but don't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself.
My questions regarding "800" are based on cold logic and a in depth knowledge of electrical wiring, not some conspiratorial based fear of government's lack of candor at times.
Usually those types of things stand out like a turd in a punch bowl. This event does not have any of those telltale signs. The mechanics and physics of this crash rule out a shoot down, IMHO.
Yep. It is from people like me who question the evidence which is submitted as proof, or no evidence which is stated as proof. (For instance, Flight 800). Being called a nut is a whole lot better than taking government at their word and using their "so called" evidence as proof.
LOL! Your theory is not a theory at all! It is factual, as admitted by Dick Cheney himself!
The problem is, that we never got close enough and the plane went down before we had the opportunity to down it. (which, we would most certainly have done, given the chance)
The problem is, that we never got close enough and the plane went down before we had the opportunity to down it. (which, we would most certainly have done, given the chance)
Now this I consider plausible. Does it make me abandon my scepticism of an Air Force take-down? Not yet. I kind of like the idea of being a nut. It opens all kinds of avenues to discussions.
Perhaps, but it seems a waste of energy unless something substantive comes from it. Nothing comes from this. The families deserve closure and the government, congress and others have many more things to be attentive to.
Flt 800 and the tail (falling off) incident are perhaps a bit different, as one involves a administration that we knew to be bought and paid for and corrupt, and the other involves an aircraft made in Europe that is still flying in our airspace if it is truly defective.
I for one, have been affected by these incidents and the ramped up security, as I refuse to fly any longer. If I can't drive, I do not go. So these issue do interest me, but I cannot find anything to give me reason to doubt the official line on this particular incident and even if I did, I would weigh it against the continued grieving of surviving families, and the benefits of a continued investigation, if any at all..
Your post, based upon direct knowledge, puts this whole conspiracy thing to bed.
Prayers for your father and for all those other passengers that fought and died that day, thereby proving to the world American's are not sheep and Americans are brave and true and will never give up. . .ever.
I never once accused the Air Force of lying. To my knowledge they have never made a statement. A statement must be made in order to level a charge of lying.
You: "I never once accused the Air Force of lying."
Me: "Do be careful when accusing the Air Force of lying. . .and THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING when you say the Air Force shot down the flight and the Air Force says "no." Be careful when accusing the Air Force of lying. . .especially when you accuse operational, front-line, no-kidding tip'o-the-spear fighter pilots (warriors) of lying in support of whatever political agenda you dream up. They don't need to lie to impress anybody, let alone lie to advance some supposed "cover-up."
'nuff said.
Buh-bye.
and THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING when you say the Air Force shot down the flight and the Air Force says "no."
I asked you before, where did I say the Air Force said "no"? I DIDN'T say it. You just keep saying I said it. Doesn't make it true just because you said it.
Yes, your hilarious lack of technical qualification coupled with your complete blindness to your own self contradiction has been very entertaining!
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