Posted on 12/28/2004 11:56:55 AM PST by Rodney King
I can't even remember where I've been while under general anesthesia, never mind dead.
Second only to Bruce Campbell in my book! :)
I had a strange experience when my father died. He died on Easter Sunday between 5:30 and 6 am in Dallas TX, 2000 AD.
I was asleep and awoke from a dream around 6:43 am near DC. I had dreamed that my father had come to me to thank me for telling him about God and Christ and that he had to go. The dream bothered me and I laid down and tried to go back to sleep, finally doing so.
I got a call around 7:30 from my uncle about my father's death. When he told me when my father died, I had a chill down my spine like never before.
Was it all just a coincidence? I know many will say so, even if the odds were astronomical. I feel he visited me, but who can know? Started reading up on NDEs after that and didnt find anything like what I had experienced. Oh well.
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"A short time after his "second" death, he did the same thing--rose up out of bed, gasped air and screamed in pain. Again, the doctors couldn't keep him alive and he died--for the third time."
His toe-tag was on too tight.
;)
If I made it to St. Peter's gate 17 times and was revived 17 times, well, when I woke up I'd be pissed.
What exactly are these processes ???
Some people who happily rose from the dead told they saw some bright light during clinical death and met relatives and friends who were already dead by that moment. Others said they remembered episodes of the Judgment of God. Some patients said they left their bodies but stayed nearby, or traveled somewhere and got to some other reality. Moody's book caused serious confusion among average men as well as among scientists. Does it mean that afterlife actually exists and death is just a transition to a better life? Moody was not the only researcher who conducted similar investigations; other researchers also came to the conclusion that there was no death at all.
Did any of them see Hell ? Equiring minds and such
Pravda and the Russian Communist Party refuse to die despite several attempts to kill them off. I don't see anything spectacular in a particular Russian being unable to die.
They are just following in Rasputin's footsteps.
I like the story about Professor Samuel Upham, a man of great learning, wit and faith - for many years a teacher at Drew Theological Seminary.
He was very ill, and when near the end, family and friends gathered at his bedside. Sombody said that Dr. Upham was already dead. Another answered: "Feel his feet. No one ever died with warm feet."
Then, Dr. Upham opened one eye and said, "What about Joan of Arc?"
It appears that this guy did.
Death for a Christian is no big deal. It's scary to contemplate because we all have a survival instinct, and it's terrible for those we leave behind. But actual death for those who have accepted and embraced Christ's sacrifice is like stepping into another room. How do I know? Because the Bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
Cool.
"It must be absolutely fantastic to know that your help in leading him to Christ was important enough to him to make him seek you out to thank you for it."
It was a dream.
That I dreamed of him at the moment he died maybe of significance, but I doubt that I did any more than imagine what he said. I have never read of similar events, but I wonder if any NDEs have involved people dreaming of people during the second persons NDE.
As to the comfortable feeling, well, the Holy Ghost guides and acts on the human heart. I simplyh added my voice to that of two of his brothers and an ex-wife for him to establish a relationship with God. I had a minor role if anything of any real significance.
I do, however, take comfort in the fact that he did finally respond to God, yes.
If you have no sense of time it shouldn't matter. A million years would be the same as an instant.
CS Lewis reported that JRR Tolkien, his close friend and brother Christian, visited him in spirit immediately after dying to reassure Lewis that dying was not scary.
I must say, Dr. Hill, I'm VERY disappointed in you. You steal the secret of life and death, and here you are trysting with a bubble-headed coed. You're not even a second-rate scientist!
That is intriguing.
Do you have any references or URLs?
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