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How five newcomers could change Senate
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | December 30, 2004 | Gail Russell Chaddock

Posted on 12/30/2004 6:05:16 AM PST by cfhBAMA

WASHINGTON Call them the five horsemen of the Republican Revolution: incoming US Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Jim DeMint of South Carolina, John Thune of South Dakota, and David Vitter of Louisiana. Their arrival in the US Senate next week gives a powerful boost to both fiscal and social conservatives on issues ranging from judicial nominations and abortion rights to tax reform. It also tips the number of former House members in the Senate to 52 percent - the first time it has passed a majority. More than just an additional five GOP votes, they bring a hard-driving style and ideological focus that is at odds with the collegial culture of the Senate.

"The big question is to what extent they will maintain their House attitudes and behavior ... and the uncompromising, disputatious positions that House members are likely to take," says Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers University in New Jersey.

There's already speculation about how this group will interact with Republican colleagues, especially the moderates who often swayed key votes in the last Congress. They could transform the tone of an institution that has been tottering between its clubby past and the more disciplined, partisan style of the US House.

After a tour of the United States in 1831, French philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville summed up the difference between the House of Representatives and the Senate in a word: "vulgar." The Senate, he wrote in his classic "Democracy in America," "seems to enjoy a monopoly of intelligence and talent," while the House is remarkable for its "vulgar demeanor."

While no senator would draw so harsh a line today, Sen. Robert Byrd (D) of West Virginia came close, when in 1995 he chastised two Republican colleagues and former House members, for contributing to the "deterioration of the Senate" with invective and a "dangerous excess of party feeling."

That's why the arrival of these five former House members to the Senate next week is already stirring strong expectations, especially among conservatives.

"These five incoming Senators have been on the front lines of the Republican ideological revolution in the House. There's a high level of expectation for this class," says Michael Franc of the conservative Heritage Foundation.

A sixth former GOP House member, Rep. Johnny Isakson (R) of Georgia, is a pro-choice moderate with a record of working across the aisle.

While the House moved the Bush first-term agenda with discipline - and virtual exclusion of Democrats in key negotiations - Senate bills faced a tougher slog. Early on, Democrats and a handful of moderate Republicans joined forces against the high end of Bush tax cuts. And, in the face of Democratic filibuster threats, 60 votes became the effective threshold for passing major legislation or clearing judicial nominations.

With a 55-45 edge in the 109th Congress (counting Independent Sen. James Jeffords with the Democrats), Republicans have a better shot at moving the president's agenda. An early test will be judicial nominations. Last week, President Bush announced that he is renominating 20 judicial candidates who did not get a vote in the 108th Congress. Senate majority leader Bill Frist assigned Senator-elect Coburn and Sen. Sam Brownback (R) of Kansas, both strong opponents of abortion, to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The Senate majority leader has also signaled that he may propose a rule to limit the minority's power to filibuster judicial nominations. While moderate Republicans have expressed doubts about this move, the GOP freshmen say they are open to supporting it.

The right to unlimited debate has been one of the defining differences between the House and Senate.

The new conservative senators will also boost GOP efforts to move legislation to cap medical malpractice lawsuits, as well as a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

Still, one of the most interesting flashpoints in the 109th Senate will be over tax reform and the soaring federal deficit. In his House days, Senator-elect Coburn was the terror, even to GOP leaders, over the issue of spending. In a protest over high levels of federal spending, Coburn piled on so many amendments to a 1998 agriculture appropriations bill that the process stalled for a year. Unlike some fiscal conservatives, he also voted against projects for his own district. He describes both abortion and the deficit as "a moral issue."

In his 2003 book, "Breach of Trust: How Washington Turns Outsiders Into Insiders," he blasts Republican congressional leaders for "folding" in budget fights and lapsing into careerism. "During meetings of the Republican conference it often seemed that the sole purpose for our existence was our own self-preservation," he writes.

In the Senate, such former House members will find greater capacity to bring the institution to a halt than in the House. After his election, Coburn told reporters that his goal is to "learn the rules as well as Robert Byrd."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: burr; coburn; conservatives; davidvitter; demint; isakson; jimdemint; johnthune; republican; richardburr; senate; thune; tomcoburn; vitter; washington

1 posted on 12/30/2004 6:05:16 AM PST by cfhBAMA
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To: cfhBAMA

What about Martinez?

I think they probably didn't mention him because he's big government.


2 posted on 12/30/2004 6:12:09 AM PST by The Teen Conservative
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To: cfhBAMA

Wonder how long these five will last in that den of thieves and traitors otherwise known as the World's Great Deliberative Body.


3 posted on 12/30/2004 6:16:38 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: cfhBAMA
"The right to unlimited debate has been one of the defining differences between the House and Senate."

Here is classic example of MSM bias. There is no 'right' to unlimited debate in the Senate. For if there were, then one Senator or a small group of Senators could have blocked the Partial Birth Abortion bill, just by debating it to death. They didn't, because they couldn't. I have no doubt that Senator Kennedy, Boxer,and many others would have tied up the Senate 24/7 by continuous debate on that bill, until it was dropped by the Republicans, had they been able to do so.

What an unbiased article would have said was that a super-majority (60 votes) is needed to cut off debate and allow a vote. Unlimited debate is permitted in the Senate, but only if 41 or more Senators agree to it.

My take: The article, and no doubt many others, is intended to drive a wedge between the existing collegial Republicans in the Senate and these 5 new savages coming into the Senate from the House. We'll see how effective the MSM is in this tactic, but something tells me that they won't be as effective as they hope to be.
4 posted on 12/30/2004 6:23:47 AM PST by BobL
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To: BobL
The article, and no doubt many others, is intended to drive a wedge between the existing collegial Republicans in the Senate and these 5 new savages coming into the Senate from the House. We'll see how effective the MSM is in this tactic, but something tells me that they won't be as effective as they hope to be.
Like the roar of a dinosaur sinking slowly in a tar pit, the voices of the Main Stream Media sound deceptively powerful and strong.
5 posted on 12/30/2004 6:30:50 AM PST by samtheman
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To: cfhBAMA
...gives a powerful boost to both fiscal and social conservatives...

The next 'fiscal conservative' senator to be sworn in will be the first 'fiscal conservative'. The GOP majority spends like drunken sailors out on a spree.

6 posted on 12/30/2004 6:34:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Wonder how long these five will last

As long as we voters let them. If they don't pan out we vote someone else in next time. We have to hold their feet to the fire, folks.

7 posted on 12/30/2004 7:16:30 AM PST by shiva
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Wonder how long these five will last

As long as we voters let them. If they don't pan out we vote someone else in next time. We have to hold their feet to the fire, folks.

8 posted on 12/30/2004 7:17:07 AM PST by shiva
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To: shiva

sorry for the double post....my bad


9 posted on 12/30/2004 7:17:45 AM PST by shiva
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To: cfhBAMA

These "powerful fiscal conservatives" will probably vote to increase government spending at an even faster pace.


10 posted on 12/30/2004 7:18:13 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: cfhBAMA
A sixth former GOP House member, Rep. Johnny Isakson (R) of Georgia, is a pro-choice moderate with a record of working across the aisle.

Congratulations, Georgia! When the media describes a Republican who works across the aisle, that is a code word for Democrat.

11 posted on 12/30/2004 7:26:56 AM PST by econ_grad
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To: shiva

I meant how long will they remain the courageous uncorrupted.

By your statement on voting them out, you must live in a habitable red portion of the country.

In Rhode Island, there are more democrat voters in the cemetaries than there are live citizens of either party.
There's no voting anyone out of anything here.


12 posted on 12/30/2004 8:28:41 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: The Teen Conservative

They did not mention him because he was never in the House.


13 posted on 12/31/2004 1:01:45 AM PST by Classicaliberalconservative
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To: cfhBAMA

Tom Coburn is a great guy - they really like him in Oklahoma. He represented for the years he was in the House a district that never sent a Republican to Congress. Tom's a true citizen legislator and I hope he terrifies the party establishment.


14 posted on 12/31/2004 1:08:08 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: econ_grad

Herman Cain would have been much better. But Bush wanted a RINO in the Senate.


15 posted on 12/31/2004 1:09:42 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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