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U.S. Should Not Help Tsunami Victims
Ayn Rand Institute ^ | Dec. 30, 2004 | David Holcberg

Posted on 12/30/2004 1:17:50 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Our money is not the government's to give.

As the death toll mounts in the areas hit by Sunday's tsunami in southern Asia, private organizations and individuals are scrambling to send out money and goods to help the victims. Such help may be entirely proper, especially considering that most of those affected by this tragedy are suffering through no fault of their own.

The United States government, however, should not give any money to help the tsunami victims. Why? Because the money is not the government's to give.

Every cent the government spends comes from taxation. Every dollar the government hands out as foreign aid has to be extorted from an American taxpayer first. Year after year, for decades, the government has forced American taxpayers to provide foreign aid to every type of natural or man-made disaster on the face of the earth: from the Marshall Plan to reconstruct a war-ravaged Europe to the $15 billion recently promised to fight AIDS in Africa to the countless amounts spent to help the victims of earthquakes, fires and floods--from South America to Asia. Even the enemies of the United States were given money extorted from American taxpayers: from the billions given away by Clinton to help the starving North Koreans to the billions given away by Bush to help the blood-thirsty Palestinians under Arafat's murderous regime.

The question no one asks about our politicians' "generosity" towards the world's needy is: By what right? By what right do they take our hard-earned money and give it away?

The reason politicians can get away with doling out money that they have no right to and that does not belong to them is that they have the morality of altruism on their side. According to altruism--the morality that most Americans accept and that politicians exploit for all it's worth--those who have more have the moral obligation to help those who have less. This is why Americans--the wealthiest people on earth--are expected to sacrifice (voluntarily or by force) the wealth they have earned to provide for the needs of those who did not earn it. It is Americans' acceptance of altruism that renders them morally impotent to protest against the confiscation and distribution of their wealth. It is past time to question--and to reject--such a vicious morality that demands that we sacrifice our values instead of holding on to them.

Next time a politician gives away money taken from you to show what a good, compassionate altruist he is, ask yourself: By what right?

David Holcberg is a research associate at the Ayn Rand Institute in Irvine, Calif.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: charity; tsunami
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To: RushCrush
Word from the libertarians, eh?

@#$@#$^

The ARI doesn't even represent most objectivists, let alone even a tiny minority of libertarians.

381 posted on 12/31/2004 4:46:48 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Radioactive
Quite simply...

Charity begins at home - NOT at the revenue agent's desk!

382 posted on 12/31/2004 6:11:16 PM PST by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: ImpBill

Just like how the UNION leaders "Know" where union dues are to be spent during an election....


383 posted on 12/31/2004 6:12:33 PM PST by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

How about bullet proof vests and armor for humvees in Iraq...


384 posted on 12/31/2004 6:17:48 PM PST by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
I agree with you...

The government should have AT FIRST forgiven THEIR DEBT...but no he didn't do that he jumped straight into handing out TAX PAYER DOLLARS that should GO TO OUR TROOPS AND NATIONAL SECURITY!

385 posted on 12/31/2004 6:31:42 PM PST by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: All
Ah yes this is a good discussion. Maybe we should take a closer look at what our government does with the money they force us to pay them. Question Authority..what authority does the US Government have to give its taxpayers money to foreigners? I can't find it in the US Constitution, can someone else?

The closest I see is:
Section. 8.
Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;


Does giving money to foreigners provide for the General Welfare of the United States? If so how? Are we bribing nations with foreign aid? Who decides where and how much we should give in order to "provide for the general welfare of the US? Should our aid go just to those nations that are strategic to our defense?


according to the USAID website this is the goal of US aid:

U.S. foreign assistance has always had the twofold purpose of furthering America's foreign policy interests in expanding democracy and free markets while improving the lives of the citizens of the developing world. Spending less than one-half of 1 percent of the federal budget, USAID works around the world to achieve these goals.

How does that relate to promoting our general welfare or defense?


Anyone remember the movie " the mouse that roared"?
It was about a poor make believe country that attacked the US in order to surrender and collect foreign aid. It seems to me there is some truth in that comedy.


more info on UN demanded aid... http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

386 posted on 12/31/2004 7:12:12 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Radioactive

Wow!

"There are too many people stuffed on the beaches of Florida.

There are too many people who make stupid choices of where they live...and I for one do not want to have to pay for their dumb selection of living areas.

If they are flooded out, then let themselves pay for their stupidity.

If their homes are destroyed by volcanoes, then let them pay for their stupidity.

If their homes are destroyed by earthquakes, then let them cover the costs.

I fail to see why it is my responsibility to pay for someone elses stupid choices"


What a guy/gal! The milk of human kindness NOT!! So, you've never made a bad decision in your life?Amazing! If I were you, I'd look up the meaning of "Karma", and take heed of what it means...or didn't you know that what we give out, is what we receive.

Yikes, looks like you're going to be hit by a Tsunami,tornadoes,hurricanes, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions!Serves you right!


389 posted on 01/01/2005 4:04:53 PM PST by ForeverTopaz
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To: neutrino
I agree. People talk about the U.S. Consitution and how we desire a return to consitutional government...and then want the Federal Government to treat our treasury like their personal charity.

There are political realities to consider. We could not move in one step in the direction you suggest. But, it does look bad this game of continually upping the ante because someone called us stingy and to make our country look good.

There are also considerations with regard to security in that part of the world, at least as I have heard the argument put - not that I am ready to subscribe to it. It goes like this. If we do not step in and help, factions at war with us will and exploit your non-giving to recruit people to their cause.

Now, the best way to handle this giving in a crisis would be for the President to step up to the microphone and make an appeal for private charitable contributions. Show the world how generous we as Americans are, really generous. Then keep a close tally on that. Let him be the cheerleader for the donations instead of just writing the check.

I bet privately we would give as much as the government is pledgeing. The government would then kick in the C130's, military, etc. But cash would come from private citizens voluntary contributions.

390 posted on 01/02/2005 9:33:53 AM PST by BJungNan (Did you call your congressmen to tell them to stop funding the ACLU? 202 224 3121)
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To: BJungNan
Now, the best way to handle this giving in a crisis would be for the President to step up to the microphone and make an appeal for private charitable contributions. Show the world how generous we as Americans are, really generous. Then keep a close tally on that. Let him be the cheerleader for the donations instead of just writing the check.

Exactly. If you ever run for office, I look forward to voting for you!

391 posted on 01/02/2005 2:55:41 PM PST by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: neutrino
Exactly. If you ever run for office, I look forward to voting for you!

Well, that's seven votes.

I'd only hold the office with the intent of holding the job for four years, focused on getting stuff done and not a second thought about reelection. Want to hear a couple of my other key points in my plateform?

392 posted on 01/02/2005 3:50:25 PM PST by BJungNan (Did you call your congressmen to tell them to stop funding the ACLU? 202 224 3121)
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To: bruinbirdman

Most of what Libby Holcberg believes I flatly disagree with, save our full application of his theory as standard practice in the future when, in the advent of a disaster, the recipient of our generosity and/or kindness in the will be France and/or the French. Fk em'.


393 posted on 01/02/2005 4:07:24 PM PST by TeddyCon
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To: ImpBill

I'm sorry, I just find this horribly selfish. Helping out nearly 200,000 people is more important than our freaking national debt.


394 posted on 01/06/2005 5:36:49 AM PST by RightMike
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To: RightMike
I don't mind the helping of people. In fact I give to charities regularly. I just object to using our "tax" dollars to do so. It, in my opinion, is not only unconstitutional, I find it immoral to TAKE citizens money and give it to any people, not in this country and not citizens, for whatever reason.

If we were really flush in the national coffers and not in debt and not funding every year with deficit spending (borrowing against future tax receipts) it might be a different story. And besides the government does not manage many things efficiently as they (the government) is using some one else's money.

It really sticks in my craw my friend, but not that the people don't need the help and that I don't want to help. I just believe it is an individual responsibility and "choice" to do so.

No Scrooge here when it comes to giving.

396 posted on 01/06/2005 2:47:31 PM PST by ImpBill (Twas a very good election for the Republic!)
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To: Forrestfire

Thanks for the link - what an incredible lesson - if only congress would read it....


397 posted on 01/13/2005 1:05:41 AM PST by M. Peach (eschew obfuscation)
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To: Grey Ghost II
"When you failed to do it for the least of these here brethren of mine..you failed to do it for me" You are confusing two concepts. According to Christ, we are all required to be charitable. That, however has nothing to do with the government unjustly taking a disproportionate amount of our wages, such that it's difficult to care for our families, so it can in turn give that money away.

Amen.

398 posted on 01/13/2005 1:17:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: bruinbirdman

U.S. should help, using private funds donated through charities. That way it's true charity, not compulsory.

Davy Crockett said it well:
http://www.trimonline.org/congress/articles/crockett.htm


399 posted on 01/13/2005 1:29:37 AM PST by FBD
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To: Windsong
"When you failed to do it for the least of these here brethren of mine..you failed to do it for me" --J.C.

J.C. never forced anyone to help anyone else. You only make points with him if you do it volunatarily.

400 posted on 01/13/2005 5:46:45 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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