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Kosovo's New PM: Young and wanted
The Economist ^

Posted on 12/30/2004 3:29:06 PM PST by Alex Marko

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To: Alex Marko

Photos and his war crimes.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:-iUtbr6ifRQJ:www.kosovo.com/ramush.html+%22RAMUSH+HARADINAJ%22&hl=en


21 posted on 12/30/2004 7:13:50 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Alex Marko

Here are some snippets of information against the KLA...

United States Senate Republican Senate Comm.-" The KLA made its military debut in February 1996 with the bombing of several camps housing Serbian refugees from wars in Croatia and Bosnia [Jane's Intelligence Review, 10/1/96]. The KLA (again according to the highly regarded Jane's,) "does not take into consideration the political or economic importance of its victims, nor does it seem at all capable of seriously hurting its enemy, the Serbian police and army. Instead, the group has attacked Serbian police and civilians arbitrarily at their weakest points. It has not come close to challenging the region's balance of military power" [Jane's, 10/1/96]."

"By late 1997, the Tehran-sponsored training and preparations of the Liberation Army of Kosovo (UCK -- Ushtria Clirimtare e Kosoves -- in Albanian, OVK in Serbian), as well as the transfer of weapons and experts via Albania, were being increased." by Yossef Bodansky, Defense and Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy (London), February 1998. Bodansky is Director of the House Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. This report was written in late 1997, before the KLA's offensive in early 1998.]
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/fr033199.htm

Interpols Criminal Intelligence Division Testimony to Congress on Narco-trafficking and Extremist Groups Links(KLA) http://www.theantidrug.com/pdfs/rmutschke.pdf

I can go on and on and on about Drug trafficking, Prostitution rings, and Arms deals between the KLA and middle eastern groups. I work on a related committee that deals with them. And as an albanian, i am disgusted with the KLA. THey should not be rewarded.


22 posted on 12/30/2004 7:19:29 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko

Here you will see a picture of KLA members with BEHEADED serbian civilians. How can you defend this?

http://www.kosovo.com/kladecapit.pdf


23 posted on 12/30/2004 7:21:53 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko
i never stated kosovo will be a direct state sponsor of terror

Alex, I quoted you directly from your previous post. If that's not what you meant, OK--më fal.

24 posted on 12/30/2004 7:22:55 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

Nuk ka problem. Listen, i'm not against ordinary Kosovars, however, the KLA i have a big, big issue against. Post 9/11, as an american, i could never support a group with such shady ties. Kosovo(a) suffered under milosevic and his radical serbian national agenda, however, the KLA made a critical mistake linking up with middle eastern groups regardless of the situation. Now as and AMERICAN, i put the US and its foreign policy first. Kosovo i see as a contridiction to other more important problematic areas. They should have split in the early 90's when Croatia, slovenia and Bosnia did.


25 posted on 12/30/2004 7:27:50 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: BobL
>>>I'd love that to be true, but these clowns in Kosovo were terrorists from the start - and Clinton sided with them.<<<

Dick Holbrooke:(sitting with KLA terrorist)

Mad Albright:(smooching with KLA terrorist)

KLA Terrorist Haradinaj is a Company's asset while at the same time being on W terrorist list as a leader of terrorist ANA in Macedonia.

Condie will have to showel truckloads of Clintonista manure from DOS Augie's stables.

26 posted on 12/30/2004 10:01:10 PM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: mark502inf
>>>>>>that I find so many people who operate like the left when it comes to this issue<<<<<

Mirror mirror on the Wall,
Who is the biggest terrorist KLA supporter of them all?


27 posted on 12/30/2004 10:09:02 PM PST by DTA (Feja e Shqiptarit eshte terorizm)
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To: DTA

C'mon, DTA--that picture is totally unfair. I NEVER eat apples.


28 posted on 12/31/2004 4:32:14 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
>>>>>C'mon, DTA--that picture is totally unfair. I NEVER eat apples<<<<

Poisoned Apple (i.e. veiled support to terrorist cause) is meant to the unsuspecting Freepers.

29 posted on 12/31/2004 7:10:48 AM PST by DTA (Feja e Shqiptarit eshte terorizm)
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To: Alex Marko; ma bell

>>>PS: i'd just like you to know that i, myself, am albanian and do not support the KLA in anyway shape or form.

This might very well be the case, however I am highly skeptical considering that your Albanian seems to be of gheg dialect while you claim to be an Albanian-American of tosk extraction. In addition you seem to have trouble "bending" nouns as anyone with even rudimentary knowledge of Albanian should be able to.
http://p083.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm35.showMessageRange?topicID=591.topic&start=41&stop=53

Our buddy mabell here is known to have disguised himself as an Albanian before, using the same poor syntax as you.


30 posted on 12/31/2004 9:48:17 AM PST by GeraldP (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: GeraldP

i lived in a highly populated gheg speaking area in the US. I grew up with it, thats what i learned.


31 posted on 12/31/2004 9:49:37 AM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko

listen buddy, dont question my albanian heritage. I will be on an albanian radio program this sunday. Vet kam lind en amerike, nuk e di me skroj shum, per kuptoj edhe fol mire.


32 posted on 12/31/2004 9:58:20 AM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko

Your rhetoric is completely unconvincing to me, but we'll leave it at that for now. Truth has a way of revealing itself.


33 posted on 12/31/2004 10:02:47 AM PST by GeraldP (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: Alex Marko

What radio program would that be?


34 posted on 12/31/2004 10:05:47 AM PST by GeraldP (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: Alex Marko

"Kosovo expects independence in 2005,"

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me that this Sovereingty has been in the works for around 8 years now? What a quagmire.


36 posted on 12/31/2004 10:10:55 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Rebelbase

Its been longer than that. There has been tensions between serbia and kosovo for a very long time. Mainly due to serbia taking away federal rights to kosovo off and on for 50 years.


37 posted on 12/31/2004 10:17:44 AM PST by Alex Marko
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To: mark502inf

"and there's nothing to indicate any Islamic terrorist action ever originated in Kosovo"

The Kosovo Liberation Army was/is a terrorist organization.
The KLA had links to Al Qaeda.

"after the Kosovar Albanians"

Strange you should mention them. They still do raids and terrorist attacks in neighboring Macedonia.

"both hemlines & alcohol consumption are high. After 9/11, mass demonstrations were held in sympathy for the USA and former KLA came to the consulate in Pristina to volunteer to fight with for us against the Taliban. "

I'm not saying that all, or even most Kosovar Muslims are terrorists. However, the KLA had links to Al Qaeda, and Muslim terrorists the world over came to fight the Serbs. Some of the heroes of the Kosovar Albanians are terrorists.

And anyway, moderate Muslim societies are easily infiltrated and controlled by hardliner terrorist Muslims [Iran, which before the revolution of 1979 was quite western, even selling oil to Israel] as an example.

And when the hardliners take control, all the moderate Muslims cringe, cooperate, and dont resist.


38 posted on 12/31/2004 11:12:55 AM PST by Nesher ("Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum!")
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To: GeraldP

You are claiming I am Knez Marko?


39 posted on 12/31/2004 1:20:53 PM PST by ma bell ("Goddamn it, you'll never get the Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole! Follow me!" - Captain Henry P. ")
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To: mark502inf

"I also think that solutions short of independence can work--some sort of enhanced autonomy & an extended international military presence with no major Serb government or military presence in the province."

So in other words have the Belgrade govenment resonsible for only some areas of Kosovo policy. Like in what areas? Federal laws? Foreign policy? Have Kosovo be responsible for the majority of it's matters?

"Oddly, the very guys the Serbs hate most--Haradinaj & Thaci--are the ones most likely & able to sell a status short of independence. Unlike President Rugova who--while widely respected--is known for his pacifist stands, Thaci & Haradinaj are war leaders who are much more likely to be heeded if they accept a status short of independence and renounce further violence. And both are savvy enough to look at things like Security Council realities and act accordingly."

Maybe, but we should never be quick to trust them. How do we know that they won't stab us in the back someday, at least if they think it serves their interests? At least Rugova is completely trustworthy. I think that we should just have Belgrade and Pristina work out some sort of compromise that both sides can more-or-less live with. THat seems to be the only possible kind of solution for this kind of situation.


40 posted on 12/31/2004 1:56:23 PM PST by Jacob Kell (WE WON! WE WON!)
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