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Ruger .454 Alaskan
Guns & Ammo ^ | 12-30-04 | Garry James

Posted on 12/31/2004 2:50:34 PM PST by OKSooner

New Year's Eve gun featurette. Enjoy!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alaska; banglist; revolvers; ruger
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To: rellimpank

You got that right. I guess that the targeted market audience would use this a last ditch effort against polar bears and brown/grizzly bears.


81 posted on 12/31/2004 7:24:41 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: OKSooner

When the grizzly's so close you can smell the salmon on his breath, a double-action revolver is a good thing...


82 posted on 12/31/2004 7:34:18 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: TC Rider

What's that little stag handled nickle plate you have there?


83 posted on 12/31/2004 7:42:42 PM PST by groanup
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To: NY Attitude
I went to the American Derringer site and could not find a 45/70.

They did have a 45/410.

Found this more interesting:


84 posted on 12/31/2004 7:49:22 PM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Rebelbase

The Model Number is M445-70ST and sells for just under $600.00.


85 posted on 12/31/2004 8:11:48 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: Rebelbase

There are several pictures of "Lady D" and yes you are correct the picture is interesting.


86 posted on 12/31/2004 8:13:12 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: Rebelbase
--I saw one-don't remember the make- at a gun show in Rapid City , SD about ten years ago that did have ".45-70" stamped on it--realistically, I believe you can shoot .410 shells in them without getting hurt.

Seriously, I wouldn't let anyone shoot a few ounce piece with even a modest .45-70 load---

87 posted on 12/31/2004 8:13:58 PM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: yarddog

The Webley .442, the Adams .450 were essentially short .45s; black powder. The service marks, I though VI were .455 topbreaks we're all familiar with. The Webley Green used a .476 like our .45 LC. Still all the older .450, .455 could be used in the WG. That was a fine revolver. The .50 and .577 were never made in large numbers. Have shot plenty of Webleys of the various marks, enjoy them thoroughly, the Webley Green the best of the lot.


88 posted on 12/31/2004 8:15:26 PM PST by osagebowman
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To: OKSooner

Oh, is this what we are shooting into the sky tonight?


89 posted on 12/31/2004 8:33:08 PM PST by BurbankKarl (LI)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Wasn't there some dangerous feature to the original Redhawks ? I see to remember a recall of the first guns...

You might be thinking about the very well publicized recall of all "older" Ruger Blackhawks. These were single action revolvers that did NOT use a transfer bar, so the firing pin would actually rest on the primer of a cartridge while the hammer was down.

Ruger to this day, offers a free retrofit of any old style revolver, and you still see advertisements for it every now and then.

Mark

90 posted on 12/31/2004 8:35:45 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: reg45

"Kick, shmick. I'd want the one that makes the biggest hole in the bear."

No kidding. They kick a whole lot less than the bear!


91 posted on 12/31/2004 8:37:08 PM PST by shellshocked
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To: JOE6PAK
Here's my little buddy. I have the .40 model.

Æ

92 posted on 12/31/2004 8:42:50 PM PST by AgentEcho (If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers)
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To: AgentEcho

Saving up for my S&W .500 magnum, a manly mans gun.


93 posted on 12/31/2004 8:47:15 PM PST by eastforker (Ask me about a free satellite TV system!)
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To: oldenuff2no
"Don't short the 45LC in the Ruger Blackhawk."

A wonderfully balanced gun and powerful combo! Great cowboy rush when shooting!

94 posted on 12/31/2004 8:48:58 PM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: OKSooner

While I don't have a Super Redhawk, I do have a Redhawk in .44Mag, and I will fire rounds through it that I would never fire through my S&W 629!

I remember reading an article about just how strong a Redhawk is, and the Super is even stronger!

There was a guy who had loaded up some hunting rounds, and was going to check them for accuracy and chronograph them. So, he went to the range, loaded up a cylinder full in his Redhawk, and pulled the trigger. He expected a very heavy load, and was quite suprised that the cylinder was locked up, and he couldn't fire a second round. He also had a S&W 29, so he loaded the cylinder on that gun, pulled the trigger, and was a bit suprised when the top of the cylinder and top-strap blew off the revolver! In fact, they even printed a photo of it, and it was a miracle he wasn't badly injured.

It turned out that the problem was he wasn't as careful as he should have been while he was working at his loading bench. The containers of two olin powders look almost identical: 296, which is a very slow burning powder, designed for big cartridges and heavy loads and bullets. then there's 231, which is a very fast burning powder, which is designed for smaller capacity cases.

A nice, comfortable load in .44Mag is about 8 grains (a measure of weight) of 231 and a hard cast 240 grain bullet, sends the bullet down-range at less than 800 feet per second. For a more serious load, 11gr with the same bullet will get it moving at just shy of 1300fps, but this is near the maximum load. This load produces about 38,000cup of pressure.

A serious hunting round load in .44Mag is about 29gr of 296 and a 180gr jhp bullet moving at over 1800fps. A less violent load is the same bullet as menioned above, a 240gr hard cast bullet with 25gr of 296, will get the bullet moving at about 1560fps. This load also produces about 38,000cup of pressure.

The problem is that they guy loaded up rounds with 29 grains of 231! That load was so over pressure, it blew the S&W revolver apart, but it only jammed up the Ruger.

Mark


95 posted on 01/01/2005 1:00:03 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: Blue Collar Christian; G32

When I first arrived in Alaska I inquired of an old-timer on what caliber handgun he would recommend for bear protection. He replied the caliber wasn't that important, but the first thing you should do is file the front sight off so when the bear shoves it up your a$$ it wont hurt so much.


96 posted on 01/01/2005 4:45:54 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Trained by English Setters)
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To: Disambiguator
"I've fired one too, but it had a 7.5" barrel. I would be willing to shoot one of these if a bear was menacing me, but I wouldn't use it for target practice (not with full-house .454 loads, anyway)."

If the action is like the Super Redhawk, I probably wouldn't like it.
Shot a .454 made by Freedom Arms. Action was nice and smooth, like it was just rolling off the sear. Owner said it came that way, no special work added.

97 posted on 01/01/2005 5:02:19 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe; All

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98 posted on 01/01/2005 6:02:17 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: groanup
What's that little stag handled nickle plate you have there?

It's a S&W Model 66, actually the same gun as it's longer barreled, blued model 19 brother. It's polished stainless .357 magnum, has a 2.5" barrel, stag grips and a Tyler-T grip adaptor. Nice little BBQ or 'go to Church' gun.

99 posted on 01/01/2005 6:46:28 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: MarkL

The first Blackhawks. Thanks for the correction.


100 posted on 01/01/2005 6:50:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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