FBI investigates allegations of false Boy Scout numbers

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[Coleus]

The FBI is investigating a Boy Scout Council?

Hmm, I wonder why. Maybe they get federal dollars from housing authority units?

I could see the county prosecutor's office or the state AG's office investigating a local scout council but not the FBI.

Looks like some of the volunteers are about sore about losing some of their camps. Some of these old timers become very attached to the camps. Many put years of money and sweat equity into them.

Scout councils, the local District Executives and district committees are notorious for having paper troops and fudging the numbers. They just love to have the Quality district pin on their uniforms.

In 1968 the national bsa spearheaded huge 6-year membership drive where they wanted one out of 3 boys a scout as it turns out a big scandal broke in the 1970's in Chicago where the district executives took the names off of tombstones and registered them as boy scouts so they could make their goals. Some things never change.

[MKM1960]

This happens in other organizations as well. It seems when MBA's invade the management the groups core values seems to disappear. Blame it on the United Way, they are usually the ones who are encouraging the business side of organizations at the expense of the traditions of their mission.

[ElkGroveDan]

I don't suppose they are going to alos investigate Alabamas welfare caseloads too.

Oh and Planned Parenthood gets a whole load of federal $. No falsified abortion billing I'm sure.

But the FBI are too busy chasing the Boy Scouts, so I guess they don't have time for those things.

[crazyhorse691]

I have not heard of this one. Guess its time to go snooping.

[steplock]

Interesting wording:

"Exaggerating membership numbers could lead to greater financial support, board members said."

Financial support? I did NOT hear anything about FEDERAL DOLLARS?

WHY is the FBI waging war on the Boy Scouts then?

The clintonistas in our govt need to be purged immediately! Especially the pigs in the FBI, CIA, the federal courts and the lawyer scums.

[hattend]

The FBI has time to check out this nonsense as The Queen of King County steals the governorship in Washington State.

Sheesh

[hophead]

I'm glad the FBI is investigating ANY orginization where there may be a problem. They don't usually get involved for NOTHING!
At one time everybody trusted the United Way until they found the Pres robbing it blind. Lets just see if they do the same to the NAACP.

[airborne]

Nice to see our tax dollars being put to good use. NOT!

[airborne]

They don't usually get involved for NOTHING!

Yeh, right! We can trust the FBI!

Waco, TX

[hophead]

Yea right, I truly envision the FBI surrounding a local Boy Scout troop at their summer camp trip. Coming in under the cover of darkness only to awaken the troops with bright lights and loud music. Helicopters roar overhead. Black helicopters no less. Headlines: "325 scouts die in a standoff at Camp Wucumup, no survivors, news at 11." Yea right, let me get my foil hat!

[airborne]

Now you're just being snide.

[Coleus]

74 woman, children and men, incinerated in the prime of their lives; who would have thought this would happen in the USA.

[airborne]

And the MSM just gave Clinton and Reno a pass. Sad!

[Coleus]

And the MSM just gave Clinton and Reno a pass. Sad! >>>

The MSM, the Congress and all of us. I don't recall any mass protests from the conservatives demanding an investigation and prosecution.

Those two and all involved should have been arrested and prosecuted for torture and murder.
They even firebombed thier escape tunnel, what a shame.

[airborne]

The MSM, the Congress and all of us. I don't recall any mass protests from the conservatives demanding an investigation and prosecution.

You are absolutely correct.

Hopefully things are changing. I am very interested to see what the public in Washington state will do about the election fraud.

[Coleus]

This happens in other organizations as well. >>

The FBI coming in or boards selling and consolidating camps.

[MKM1960]

Organizations outside the Boy Scouts. When the Management teams apply Business strategy that don't jibe with the Core Values of the organization. There are typically a lot more charities in the United Way mix than there were when the United Way started. United Way has to slice the pie many more times than it did in the past. To the volunteers the core values of the organization are it's mission and when the Management drops core values for business strategy the problems begin. Basically the Management ends up trying to serve two masters the United Way and the Volunteers. I have a feeling what is going in this case is that the Council's Management has been playing to the United Way side without the Board of Director's knowledge or approval. This in turn has ignited the volunteers ire because of the core value of being morally straight. This is played out across the country in charitable organizations. The volunteers take it very seriously when these things happen especially where money is involved. One case I am familiar with because of moral turpitude and very bad financial controls two secretaries with check writing privileges nearly bankrupted a local chapter of a national charity. The Executive Director accepted the phony financial reports submitted by one of them and the National organization with the local Board of Directors had to call the police into investigate. It was a very sad business. I talked with an old friend who involved in a charity on a regional letter and he said this more prevalent than it appears. Often he said that the national charity will handle the situation, but it is becoming more likely to turn it over the proper law enforcement agencies. There must be federal funding involved for the FBI to be coming into this one.

[moog]

This happens in other organizations as well. It seems when MBA's invade the management the groups core values seems to disappear. Blame it on the United Way, they are usually the ones who are encouraging the business side of organizations at the expense of the traditions of their mission.

The United Way does do some good too. I don't think any of this applies to the Boy Scouts as a whole, but in a funny way, there might be a ring of truth. This stems from a something that happened when I was a boy scout. My dad was scoutmaster and two boys had stopped coming. My dad tried to get them off the rolls, but was told by the boy scout council that they had to be dead. So that is what my dad declared them. The next week one broke his arm in a motorcyle accident and the other broke his leg. I do hope the policies have changed since then or other ex-boy scouts could be hurt:).

[Coleus]

Scouts are registered and are listed on the charter for one full year at a time whether they quit or not.