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Bob in Paradise: How Novak created his own ethics-free zone. (Hit piece, but interesting)
The Washington Monthly ^ | December 2004 | Amy Sullivan

Posted on 01/01/2005 4:14:54 PM PST by The Loan Arranger

Robert Novak was in high dudgeon. He and his colleagues on CNN's “The Capital Gang” were squabbling over whether CBS should have run a story on President George W. Bush's National Guard service, a story which relied on documents whose authenticity had come into question. Novak—the show's resident curmudgeon, outfitted with a three-piece suit and permanently arched eyebrow—delivered his verdict. “I'd like CBS, at this point, to say where they got those documents from,” he growled. “I think they should say where they got these documents because I thought it was a very poor job of reporting by CBS.” Resident liberal Al Hunt jumped in to clarify. “Robert Novak,” he asked, “you're saying CBS should reveal its source?” When Novak replied that he was, Hunt pressed him further. “You think reporters ought to reveal sources?” In a flash, Novak realized he had made a mistake; he began to backtrack. “No, no, wait a minute,” he said. “I'm just saying in that case.” So in some cases, Hunt continued, reporters should reveal their sources—but not in all cases? “That's right,” said Novak.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonmonthly.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; cialeak; cnn; georgewill; nixon; novak; robertevans; robertnovak; valerieplame; watergate
Warning: A little profanity in the article.
1 posted on 01/01/2005 4:14:55 PM PST by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger

CBS's source passed phony info. Is anyone saying Novak's source lied?


2 posted on 01/01/2005 4:28:16 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: The Loan Arranger

So, there's no difference between lies and truth?

Thank you, Washington Monthly, for revealing this belief so candidly to your readers.

If only CBS would do the same.


3 posted on 01/01/2005 4:33:43 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (We're none of us prefect.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

When a source lies to a news organization, their ethics should required revelation. That is, for those that have any.


4 posted on 01/01/2005 4:55:47 PM PST by Elvis van Foster
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To: The Loan Arranger

Would they have us believe that they feel obligated to protect someone that duped them? Their "source" (aka DNC) made that dream in which one suddenly realizes that he's naked in a crowed room a reality for them. They won't reveal their source because doing so would be worse than the original fiasco - it would prove that they're in bed with the Democrats.


5 posted on 01/01/2005 5:12:41 PM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: The Loan Arranger

<< ... By exposing the name of Wilson's wife—Valerie Plame—Novak not only put an end to her undercover work on weapons-of-mass-destruction issues, possibly putting at risk the lives of any foreign sources who may have cooperated with her. >>

What utter rubbish.

Plame was "outed" by Wilson, was never an "undercover" "agent" -- more of a bum-on-a-seat clerk -- and sent only her bum-on-an-aeroplane--seat junketing and serial lying dnc-activist "spouse" into the [Niger-pub-crawl] "field."

Bah.

Humbug.


6 posted on 01/01/2005 5:21:04 PM PST by Brian Allen (For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord -- Luke 2:11)
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To: The Loan Arranger
A fraudulent source is not a "source" it's a ruse, an abuser of the First Amendment.
7 posted on 01/01/2005 5:23:40 PM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Read part of it, enough to see it's just another leftie hit-piece on Novak, who the left apparently considers an important conservative. I don't consider him either important or conservative. The only interesting thing to me about this piece was the continual double standard of the left, and their constant attacks on all aspects of the right, including some gratuitous snotty remarks about the Swift Boat veterans For Truth. The left really hates those American heroes. Molly ivens called them the "swift boat liars" again the other day. How about an original thought, you drunken old dyke?


8 posted on 01/01/2005 5:34:27 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: The Loan Arranger
I drank cognac and smoked cigars with Bob Novak on a NR cruise. I found him to be a very decent human being and a blast to be around. I'd be happy to pay for his drinks anytime.

regards,

9 posted on 01/01/2005 6:01:57 PM PST by Mycroft Holmes (Fnord!)
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To: The Loan Arranger

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't mind Novak being forced by law to reveal his sources, but you'd have to have reciprocity and require lefty journalists to reveal their sources. I think the left would refuse the deal. So: deal or no deal??


10 posted on 01/01/2005 6:28:53 PM PST by guitarist (commonsense)
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To: All

asulliva@Princeton.EDU


11 posted on 01/01/2005 7:17:54 PM PST by jimboster
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To: The Loan Arranger
The problem with "unnamed sources" is that it is easily used as a ruse to simply lie and attribute the "information" to some anonymous source. I think that was the case with Woodward and Berstein's Deep Throat and obviously with the Dan Blather phony documents.
12 posted on 01/01/2005 9:44:29 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: cyncooper

FYI.


13 posted on 01/01/2005 9:47:28 PM PST by Howlin
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To: jimboster

Why does this girl's name ring a bell with me?


14 posted on 01/01/2005 9:49:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: The Loan Arranger

Just another left-wing hit piece. The left wing press hates Bob Novak for obvious reasons.

Its drives them insane that their little attack on Bush and Novak had backfired.

The whole Wilson/Phlame situation was a tempest in tea pot from the very beginning.


15 posted on 01/02/2005 3:26:22 AM PST by rcocean
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Exactly.


16 posted on 01/02/2005 7:25:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: Jaysun

"Would they have us believe that they feel obligated to protect someone that duped them?"

I think they would have us believe exactly that. I also think that they are protecting one of their own, and that they weren't duped, they knew all along that the "documents" were fakes.


17 posted on 01/02/2005 7:26:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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Mission to Niger
Robert Novak
July 14, 2003
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/printrn20030714.shtml

The CIA leak
Robert Novak
October 1, 2003
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20031001.shtml

Novak Recuses Self from CIA Leak Probe
Posted by Scott Ott
December 31, 2003
http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001463.html

Judge Upholds Media Subpoenas in CIA Leak Case (PLAME/WILSON)
Reuters ^ | August 9, 2004 | James Vicini
Posted on 08/09/2004 12:30:56 PM PDT by cyncooper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1188136/posts

Court Holds Reporter in Contempt in Leak Case (WILSON/PLAME)
Washington Post ^ | August 9, 2004 | Carol D. Leonnig
Posted on 08/09/2004 12:37:45 PM PDT by cyncooper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1188142/posts


18 posted on 01/02/2005 7:30:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: The Loan Arranger
Novak did not "realize his mistake", he pointed out the difference. Most viewers probably knew of Novak's situation if they're interested in political machinations enough to be watching "Capitol Gang".

This Amy is a spiteful and deceitful little wench. A talking points recipient who slavishly donned kneepads and typed up her dishonest and malicious screed. As to this:

During the summer of 2003, someone in the Bush White House decided to extract a pound of flesh from former Amb. Joseph Wilson, a critic of the administration's rationale for the Iraq war, by revealing to members of the press that Wilson's wife was an undercover CIA agent

I will state that is a flat out lie. Amy even says it was the actual naming of Wilson's bride that put the end to her "career". Amy is dim enough or dishonest enough to ignore the odious Wilson listed Ms. Plame's whole name on his own bio online for the world to see.

The press must realize that soon Fitzgerald will hit pay dirt on the real story and they are starting to squeal.

I haven't read the whole thing yet---hang on, Amy says Cooper is also a contributor to Washington Monthly. Well, isn't THAT interesting. Cuz Amy falsely claims Miller at the Times wrote about the Wilson/Plame business, when she did not. Also Amy says Miller and Cooper were also recipients of the same leak Novak was. I'm pretty sure that has not been outright alleged (though one can surmise--which means it was NOT the WH) and it defies common sense that this WH, which does not leak, would leak something they ought not to the likes of Matt Cooper who is married to Mandy Grunewald.

/rant, off to read the rest.

19 posted on 01/02/2005 8:07:57 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the alert.


20 posted on 01/02/2005 8:15:52 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

If you ever figure this out, I expect you to post a dissertation on it.

Hope you're feeling better.


21 posted on 01/02/2005 8:18:40 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Thanks, I will write at length as the facts come out, I'm sure.

I've been waiting for the appellate court to rule if Miller's and Cooper's contempt citations stand or not. I'm getting better and will be ready for "real news" to hit soon.


22 posted on 01/02/2005 8:20:29 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: The Loan Arranger
Finally getting around to finishing Amy's fact-challenged little column here and came across this howler:

But unlike journalists Dan Rather and Howell Raines, who provided full explanations and apologies once their errors were revealed—

Dan Rather has provided a full explanation and apology? I missed it. Last I checked he apologized if the documents weren't real but stubbornly insisted (based on nothing) that the underlying charges remain true.

Good grief. I could go on, but Ms. Amy isn't worth the effort. She has demonstrated she is a propaganda whore for the left, facts be damned.

23 posted on 01/02/2005 9:14:39 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: The Loan Arranger
Resident liberal Al Hunt jumped in to clarify. “Robert Novak," he asked, “you're saying CBS should reveal its source?" When Novak replied that he was, Hunt pressed him further. "You think reporters ought to reveal sources?" In a flash, Novak realized he had made a mistake;

Whatever else you think of him, Novak was a moron to walk into that trap.

24 posted on 01/03/2005 7:37:46 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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