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How to be an illegal: Mexico government publishes guide to assist border crossers
WorldNetDaily ^ | 1/2/05 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 01/02/2005 3:26:22 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Dat Mon

Your "pattern" note reminds me of the movie "Three Days of the Condor" (OK - I know - Robert Redford alert) - where the cia book reader decodes the international plot in a book he is reviewing - then is assigned to an assisanation unit because he knows too much -

You have an interesting theorem. It would be interesting to propose the death of American style democracy when the symbiotic relationship between the capital class and the working and professional classes fails - that is, they are no longer served by similar goals or similar outcomes.

Of course recent history of conservative victories tends to contradict the theory - but maybe that is just driven by how terrible the leftists are.

In keeping with the theme of your comment, I offer this for a tagline - "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean everyone isn't against me".

Diva's Husband


41 posted on 01/02/2005 6:22:31 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
"Mexico, the enemy within"

I like that one, and it absolutely fits the reality here in So. Cal.

42 posted on 01/02/2005 6:22:45 PM PST by norton
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To: exnavychick; WestCoastGal
When will our government wake up and realize we are BEING TAKEN FOR A RIDE????

Well a good start would be for W to stop having VF over to the ranch for dinner every few months.

I.E.= It'll never happen...

43 posted on 01/02/2005 6:29:25 PM PST by ChefKeith (If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled?)
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To: wagglebee

Maybe we should put a letter together for old Vicente
and everyone sign it. Would it do any good? Probably
not - at least he'll know for sure how the American
people feel and what they might do.


44 posted on 01/02/2005 6:45:16 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: wagglebee

I'm suprised the Mexican government is not supplying arms to the "immigrants!" Probably arms will come later.


45 posted on 01/02/2005 6:47:19 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: marty60
Well considering the odds, they did pretty D well if you ask me.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I was being a little tounge-in-cheek, Sam Houston was a great Texican, patriot, general, tactician, and strategist. I join Texans in honoring him.

I also agree he did not have enough military strength to deliver all of Mexico, as you say, he did just fine delivering California.

47 posted on 01/02/2005 7:21:59 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I'm gonna hear it for this.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I'm suprised the Mexican government is not supplying arms to the "immigrants!" Probably arms will come later.

Actually the elites of Mexico are deathly afraid of their large and fast-growing underclass. Allow them weapons? The Mexican army is on the border making sure they aren't obtaining weapons and bringing them back to Mexico.

49 posted on 01/02/2005 8:38:09 PM PST by FITZ
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To: JustAnotherSavage
I'm glad someone besides me remembers all the hype about NAFTA..."It's going to stop illegal immigration!!!!!""

I remember that big lie also --- I knew it was a lie at the time. Carlos Salinas who pushed NAFTA through just lost his little brother --- a drug deal gone wrong. Poor guy --- I think his other brother is still in prison for killing their brother-in-law in another bad drug deal.

50 posted on 01/02/2005 8:47:50 PM PST by FITZ
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To: wagglebee; ALIPAC

My brother just sent me this link!
I'm sickened!

A GUIDE!?

Hello? Federal Government? WAKE UP!!!


51 posted on 01/02/2005 10:27:00 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (Because I fly, I envy no (wo)man on earth. - Anon)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

"...Mexico continues to export one of its most valuable assets, people."
I'm sure that's a typographical error. What they meant to say is "least valuable."
These are people who are illiterate in two languages and have a bent for crime.


52 posted on 01/02/2005 10:35:12 PM PST by henderson field
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To: wagglebee
A Border Patrol spokesman said he does not think the book encourages illegal crossers.

"If they've already gone ahead and made that decision to cross illegally . . . then anything that helps protect lives is worth it," said Andy Adame, spokesman for the Border Patrol's Tucson sector.

What the heck are we bothering to pay this guy...he works for the other side....

Or as Opus once said...."We met the enemey...and he is us.

imo

54 posted on 01/03/2005 6:47:34 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: wagglebee

Today | This Week


Mexico publishes guide to assist border
crossers

Chris Hawley
Republic Mexico City Bureau
Jan. 1, 2005 12:00 AM

MEXICO CITY - The Mexican government is giving out a colorful new comic book
with advice for migrants, but immigration-control advocates worry that some of the
tips may encourage illegal border crossers.

The 32-page book, The Guide for the Mexican Migrant, was published in
December by Mexico's Foreign Ministry. Using simple language, the book offers
safety information for border crossers, a primer on their legal rights and advice on
living unobtrusively in the United States.

Dramatic drawings show undocumented immigrants wading into a river, running
from the U.S. Border Patrol and crouching near a hole in a border fence. On other
pages, they hike through a desert with rock formations reminiscent of Arizona and
are caught by a stern-faced Border Patrol agent.

"This guide is intended to give you some practical advice that could be of use if you
have made the difficult decision to seek new work opportunities outside your
country," the book says.

But immigration-control groups questioned some of the guide's advice.

"This is more than just a wink and a nod," said Rick Oltman, Western field director
for the Federation for American Immigration Reform. "This is so transparent, this is
the Mexican government trying to protect its most valuable export, which is illegal
migrants."

Book distribution

The book is being distributed as a free supplement to El Libro Vaquero, a popular
cowboy comic book, in five Mexican states that send many migrants to the United
States: Zacatecas, Michoacýn, Puebla, Oaxaca and Jalisco. The government plans
to print 1.5 million copies.

The book comes with a yellow disclaimer saying it does not promote
undocumented immigration, and it repeatedly warns against crossing illegally. But
it gives no information about the steps for seeking a U.S. visa.

Instead, it offers frank safety tips. In the section on crossing rivers, it notes, "Thick
clothing increases your weight when wet, and this makes it difficult to swim or
float."

On crossing the desert, it says, "Try to walk during times when the heat is not as
intense" and says migrants should follow power lines or train tracks if they get lost.


The book warns migrants that they may have to walk for days to reach towns or
roads in the desert and that they will not be able to carry enough water or food.

But it also shows a woman adding salt to a water bottle and advises, "Salt water
helps you retain your body's liquids. Although you'll feel thirstier, if you drink water
with salt the risk of dehydration is much lower."

Mexican authorities say they're just trying to keep migrants safe.

"We are not inviting them to cross, but we're doing everything we can to save lives,"
said Elizabeth Garc’a Mej’a, chief coordinator for the Nogales, Sonora, section of
Mexico's Grupo Beta migrant protection service.

Carlos Flores Vizcarra, Mexican consul general of Phoenix, said he had not seen
the guide until a reporter showed it to him.

He said the guide appeared to be only the latest attempt by the Mexican
government to warn migrants about the dangers of crossing the border without
proper documentation.

The reality, however, is that many migrants will try to do so anyway, he said.

"This is nothing new. It's a way to put it in very simple terms so people will
understand the risks," Flores Vizcarra said. "The intention is out of concern for
human rights. People are doing it anyway. We cannot ignore that there is a very big
migration between our two countries, and people who are coming to work need to
understand the risks."

Mixed messages

Some migrants from Mexico who have crossed the border illegally in the past said
the guide seems to send a mixed message.

"On the one hand they seem to be saying, 'Don't cross,' but on the other hand they
are saying, 'Cross,' " Humberto Morales, 22, an undocumented immigrant from
Oaxaca working as a day laborer in Phoenix, said after looking at a copy.

He doubts the guide will keep many people in Mexico from crossing illegally, but
he said it could help save lives.

"We have lots of programs like this in Mexico, but people keep crossing," Morales
said.

No official at the Foreign Ministry headquarters in Mexico City would agree to an
interview about the comic book, despite repeated requests through the ministry's
media relations office.

The book's pictures are drawn to match the style of El Libro Vaquero. They portray
the migrants as strong and healthy men and women, wading into a river or walking
through the desert.

One section of the book urges caution when dealing with immigrant smugglers,
known as coyotes or polleros. It shows migrants climbing into the back of a
tractor-trailer, a possible reference to the 19 migrants who died in Texas after
being sealed in a tractor-trailer in May 2003.

On getting caught

Another section warns migrants not to lie to U.S. authorities or use false
identification, and it gives instructions on what to do if caught by the Border Patrol.

"Don't throw stones or objects at the officer or patrol vehicles because this is
considered a provocation," it says. "Raise your hands slowly so they see you are
unarmed."

A picture shows a group of migrants running from a Border Patrol sport utility
vehicle, though the text urges them not to flee.

"It's better to be detained a few hours and repatriated to Mexico than to get lost in
the desert," it says.

Seven pages are devoted to migrants' legal rights after they are detained and
another four to living peacefully in the United States.

"Avoid attracting attention, at least while you are arranging your stay or documents
to live in the United States," it says. "The best formula is to not alter your routine of
going from work to home."

The Arizona Republic faxed copies of the guide to the U.S. Border Patrol, FAIR
and two groups that support stronger controls on immigration.

A Border Patrol spokesman said he does not think the book encourages illegal
crossers.

"If they've already gone ahead and made that decision to cross illegally . . . then
anything that helps protect lives is worth it," said Andy Adame, spokesman for the
Border Patrol's Tucson sector.

Beyond protection

But the immigration-control groups said some of the advice goes beyond
protecting migrants and, instead, encourages them.

"A lot of it is disclaimers, but then there's this part about if you're going to cross the
desert, do it when the sun isn't so hot," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of
the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies. "It's a mixed message."

Said John Vincent, editor of a newsletter published by Virginia-based Americans
for Immigration Control: "It really looks like the Mexican government is encouraging
illegal immigration. It shows the contempt that the Mexican government has for our
laws."

The Mexican government produces a similar book aimed at Central American
immigrants who try to enter Mexico illegally. The book covers much of the same
information about legal rights and repeats many of the warnings. It even shows a
group of migrants struggling to breathe inside a truck.

But that book doesn't give the same kind of safety tips on crossing the border or
advise immigrants on how to live peacefully in Mexico.

Reporter Daniel Gonzalez contributed to this article.

Reach the reporter at chris.hawley@arizonarepublic.com


55 posted on 01/03/2005 7:00:56 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: wagglebee

Un-freakin-believable BUM


56 posted on 01/03/2005 7:33:08 AM PST by moehoward
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To: wagglebee; B4Ranch

BTTT


57 posted on 01/03/2005 7:35:09 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Budweiser

I'm surprised our own RINOOBLs in congress are not funding the book.


59 posted on 01/03/2005 7:42:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: wagglebee

Got to protect their second largest contribution to Mexico's GDP.

1 Oil
2 Invaders using Western Union.


60 posted on 01/03/2005 7:47:39 AM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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