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The Sin of Divorce
Renew America ^ | 01/04/2005 | Adam Graham

Posted on 01/04/2005 12:24:26 PM PST by Keyes2000mt

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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Just curious . . .

Are fiesty, haughty, smug

insults

--a hobby? or
--an avocation? or
--a career? or maybe
--an obsessive compulsion?


1,103 posted on 01/07/2005 3:13:45 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: hushpad

I think it should be harder to get into, too. But also, that shacking up would not be so easy and convenient.

The HOW in a free society is exceedingly problematic . . . at least until the idiots begin to realize that

THERE IS NO

FREEDOM

WITHOUT RESPONSIBILITY.


1,104 posted on 01/07/2005 3:16:58 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: FrankWild
I'm with ya, Frank. I too was shocked at how many social conservatives are divorced.

I am one sinner who believes that the institution of marriage should be strengthened for not only the good of the children but for civilized society in general. Divorce should be discouraged, especially in marriages where minor children are relevant.

Yes, allowing for the minority of marriages where there is extreme mental cruelty, physical abuse, adultery, desertion, etc. I'm at the age where friends are divorcing and each couple divorced because they were unhappy and didn't want to spend the rest of their life in that marriage - all have minor children. I can't think of one of them who is actually happier divorced. The kids sure aren't any better for it.

1,105 posted on 01/07/2005 3:29:42 PM PST by american colleen
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To: FrankWild
What does that have to do with anything? I agreed with the statement: "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."

Don't you? It's scriptural, Frank. How you could then accuse me of twisting scripture takes some serious pretzel logic. That is why I think you just wanted to name me and give me crap, and THAT is why I think you're a re-tread.

1,106 posted on 01/07/2005 6:32:11 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Christine Fraudoire is not my governoire.)
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To: FrankWild
As for the concept of me being a re-tread, I imagine you mean that I am previously divorced. I am happy to tell you that I have been married for over 13 years and my fifth child is due in three weeks.

No, that's not what "re-tread" means around here. And by the way, I'm not divorced either. And I've been married longer than you have.

You DO know that "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" is in scripture, right?

1,107 posted on 01/07/2005 6:33:56 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Christine Fraudoire is not my governoire.)
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To: Bella_Bru

People who go out of their way to personally name others and create issues out of thin air often are.


1,108 posted on 01/07/2005 6:35:20 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Christine Fraudoire is not my governoire.)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Horse hockey. Damn, self righteous author needs to mind his own business instead of declaring that people have sinned.


1,109 posted on 01/07/2005 6:40:53 PM PST by DaGman
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To: Ginifer
And another thing... you must obviously have nothing better to do than print, read, and criticize others in your leisure. I suggest looking up a church in your local neighborhood to give your sermons.

Ginifer, you really ought to do something about your irritibility. Ever bought any Midol?

1,110 posted on 01/08/2005 1:56:49 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Ginifer; snowsislander
You MariaBush have some nerve! Your self-righteous sanctimonious ramblings.

Isn't irony ironic?

1,111 posted on 01/08/2005 2:02:33 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Quix
But also, that shacking up would not be so easy and convenient. <<<

I remember back when those who were shacking up were pretty much "trash". Now there are plenty of couples who want to try the merchandise out before they buy and it's considered SOP by society in general.

Shacking up, IMO, is a major contributer to the breakdown of Marriage. Living together does not reflect real Marriage as its advocates claim. It is simply a convenience for those who lack the ability and fortitude to make a lasting commitment.
1,112 posted on 01/10/2005 6:33:40 AM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: hushpad

WELL SAID.

Living with one foot out the door is not a great way to build trust.

Without enormous trust, intimacy is impossible.

When intimacy is supposedly the goal, yet one foot is maintained out the door, delusions abound; hurts are not far behind.


1,113 posted on 01/10/2005 6:37:23 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

When intimacy is supposedly the goal, yet one foot is maintained out the door, delusions abound; hurts are not far behind.<<<

This is exactly how I see it!

The trust that comes when you know the other will ALWAYS be there creates an environment where anything can be overcome. It's also a great incentive to get along with one another, to communicate, to provide real love, not just "romantic" love.


1,114 posted on 01/10/2005 6:49:05 AM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: Gabz

Sorry this is such a late post--I'm trying to do a little catch up.

I've always enjoyed discussing moral issues, and that was my interest on this thread. You are right that your choices and beliefs are entirely your own, as are any of ours.

Since this thread is pretty much over and your gentle post gave me pause, let me just say I wish you joy and all the best in life.


1,115 posted on 01/11/2005 8:49:00 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Keyes2000mt

I am a Christian man who attends a couple of Pentecostal churches and I've met several divorced people. Most of the time in the U.S. it is the woman that initiates the divorce, although I have heard of several men that have initiated divorces, and in some instances both people mutually agree to divorce. Even if the woman you marry is really nice, there's no guarantee that she won't divorce you, even though you are faithful and try to treat her well. In 2001, a Pentecostal woman friend who is an absolute sweetheart to her friends, separated from her Pentecostal husband, citing words that he had said. She later divorced him. In 2004, another really affectionate woman who was a music leader in a church that I attend separated from her Christian husband. She stopped attending that church for the time being and has remained separated even though there is no evidence of adultery or physical abuse by the husband. While I'm not going to judge these women, but I am concerned that if they don't seek reconciliation with their husbands, that they may lose their future places in Heaven if Conditional Security is true.

The divorce problem in North America is leading many North American men to seek wives from Asian and South American countries in which it is rare for women to divorce. This will mean that more American women who want to marry will be unable to.




1,116 posted on 02/01/2005 1:12:20 AM PST by URist
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