Posted on 01/04/2005 2:38:37 PM PST by stockpirate
Not true. They are counted by local election boards using those machines. The above statement is like saying that Ford drives me to work.
Me too. The hard part for me is waiting for the sea to part. He always does it in his time not mine. I need to work him on his timing...lol
Need some angry animals to scare off the trolls...
Well cool, I thought you may have thought I was a troll.
This, by the way, is stupid. The machines should have a paper trail.
Heh ..... At this point, I think every time a nutbag liberal parrots this BS to one of us, we should just respond with, "Yeah, we cheated and kicked your asses. What are you going to do about it, LOSER?!?" Then just stand back and watch them explode.
I know what you mean. Got the same dilemma w/ my own career decision. He always makes things clear in His own time. Take care.
Yep. I think they'd crack if they realized that they, who see themselves as liberators, were rejected by those same "little people" they so-condescendingly claim they want to free, ala the whole "blue collar Bush supporters voting against their own interests" concept, because their liberal ideas are at odds from the ideas the citizenry actually believes.
...and since when has any federal regulatory agency been able to guarantee safety, security or honesty...ever? I'll take my chances with privately held companies with stockholders to answer to, instead of government agencies, every time.
What a coincidence! I have my own list of 18 amazing facts about voting in the U.S.:
1. Kerry falsely accused his own shipmates of committing war crimes, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
2. Kerry met with the enemy in Paris when he was still a Naval officer, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
3. Kerry attended a meeting where people discussed shooting United States senators. He never reported the meeting to the authorities, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
4. Kerry has achieved nothing of note in his twenty years in the Senate, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
5. Kerry has multiple positions on Iraq, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
6. Kerry has a security advisor who stuffed classified documents in his pants, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
7. Kerry was named the most liberal member of the Senate, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
8. Other than his ex brother-in-law David Thorne, Kerry can't seem to find anyone else in the world who likes him personally, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
9. Kerry blamed his secret service agent when he fell down, thus suggesting Kerry can't admit a human mistake, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
10. Kerry saved his campaign by using a home mortgage loan to get around campaign finance laws, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
11. Kerry consistently backed military positions that have been proven to have been wrong, such as his support of the nuclear freeze, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
12. Kerry opposed Reagan's efforts to overthrow the Sandinistas. History has proven Kerry wrong, but 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
13. Kerry could never articulate a reason he wanted to be president other than personal ego, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
14. Kerry couldn't organize his campaign at all, and was often hours late for his appearances. Despite this lack of management skill, 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
15. Kerry insulted the nations that joined the fight against Iraq, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
16. John Kerry had a vice presidential candidate who made millions on junk science, and 59 million people still voted for John Kerry!
17. John Kerry promised to end America's dependence on foreign oil while preventing oil drilling in Alaska, and 59 million people still voted for John Kerry!
18. John Kerry claims to have a plan to solve every problem known to mankind. He won't release the details of these plans, but 59 million people still voted for John Kerry!
Amazing, isn't it?
"I've received a few of those in my inbox over the past few weeks. My response has always been the same: "
Your "reply" was better than mine to all of the e-mails I've gotten. I just typed in "GROW UP" and hit 'reply'.
Well Professor "Evalyn" as a California taxpayer I demand that you get back to San Diego with a piece of chalk in your hand immediately. Classes started Monday.
Shamelessly stealing it :)
10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
Being a database programmer and IT Director for a medium sized company in downtown Seattle, I've thought about how you'd pull off fraud on voting machines like these.
The only way I can think of changing these votes without leaving a blatant trail on the hard drive would be to use a hardware solution: a chip inserted in the motherboard or inline with the keyboard/resistive screen which would intercept the vote and alter it based on a program resident on the chip. The chip would then feed the false vote to the database as though that were the actual vote the voter made in real time.
When the polls closed, all those chips would have to be removed.
Ideally, you'd use an inline chip because if an educated auditor opened the computer they'd want to know why there was an empty chip bed on the motherboard.
Other than that, anyone with a decent computer education and half a brain could determine whether or not votes had been altered on a computer. When you start messing with a database there's a domino effect of changes that occur all over the place: trans logs have to be altered, file access times changed, files deleted, empty drive space wiped.
You'd need a conspiracy of scores of computer professionals to pull it off.
The bottom line is, it just didn't happen.
nah I wont do that right now.....
I am pretty sure that they will create their own denial of service attack by all the DU'ers hitting the site all the time on the 6th anyway and of course, I know I will get my DuFUs....
This is where you lost me.
Up to that point I understood everything.
Ummm, so who was counting the votes in 1992 and '96?
I would guess that the people "buying" the machines wrote the specs.
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