Posted on 01/04/2005 2:38:37 PM PST by stockpirate
18 Amazing Facts About Voting in the USA
Did you know....?
1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S. link 1 link 2 link 3
2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. link 1 link 2
3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers. link 1 link 2
4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." link 1 link 2
5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator in a surprise upset, with votes counted by ES&S machines. link 1 link 2
6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee. link 1 link 2 link 3
7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates. link 1 link 2
8. Kenneth Blackwell co-chaired George Bush's Ohio election campaign. As Ohio secretary of state, he left no stone unturned to surpress the democratic vote. link 1 link 2 link 3
9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters. link 1 link 2
10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail. link 1 link 2
11. Exit polls are usually excellent predictors of election results. Reputable analyses could not find and explanation of the discrepancy between exit polls and results of the 2004 presidential election. link 1 link 2 link 3
12. A Diebold subsidiary employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers. These people helped write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states. link 1 link 2
13. Jeff Dean, senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree. link 1 link 2
14. Jeff Dean was served jail time for planting back doors in his client's accounting software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years. link 1 link 2
15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio. link 1 link 2
16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here with the chimp link 1 link 2 link 3
17. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates. link 1 link 2 link 3 link 5
18. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation. link 1 link 2 link 3 link 4 link 5
Based on a list compiled by Angry Girl link 1 ______________________________________________ Were American's votes were deliberately miscounted?
Please -
1) forward this list to everyone you know 2) use it as grist for letters to the editor (in your own words) and requests to newspapers, radio and tv for election fraud investigation... link to DU 3) write your congressional representatives calling for an investigation http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Evalyn F. Segal, PhD Professor Emerita, San Diego State University Residing at Philadelphia PA USA
Not true. They are counted by local election boards using those machines. The above statement is like saying that Ford drives me to work.
Me too. The hard part for me is waiting for the sea to part. He always does it in his time not mine. I need to work him on his timing...lol
Need some angry animals to scare off the trolls...
Well cool, I thought you may have thought I was a troll.
This, by the way, is stupid. The machines should have a paper trail.
Heh ..... At this point, I think every time a nutbag liberal parrots this BS to one of us, we should just respond with, "Yeah, we cheated and kicked your asses. What are you going to do about it, LOSER?!?" Then just stand back and watch them explode.
I know what you mean. Got the same dilemma w/ my own career decision. He always makes things clear in His own time. Take care.
Yep. I think they'd crack if they realized that they, who see themselves as liberators, were rejected by those same "little people" they so-condescendingly claim they want to free, ala the whole "blue collar Bush supporters voting against their own interests" concept, because their liberal ideas are at odds from the ideas the citizenry actually believes.
...and since when has any federal regulatory agency been able to guarantee safety, security or honesty...ever? I'll take my chances with privately held companies with stockholders to answer to, instead of government agencies, every time.
What a coincidence! I have my own list of 18 amazing facts about voting in the U.S.:
1. Kerry falsely accused his own shipmates of committing war crimes, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
2. Kerry met with the enemy in Paris when he was still a Naval officer, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
3. Kerry attended a meeting where people discussed shooting United States senators. He never reported the meeting to the authorities, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
4. Kerry has achieved nothing of note in his twenty years in the Senate, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
5. Kerry has multiple positions on Iraq, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
6. Kerry has a security advisor who stuffed classified documents in his pants, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
7. Kerry was named the most liberal member of the Senate, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
8. Other than his ex brother-in-law David Thorne, Kerry can't seem to find anyone else in the world who likes him personally, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
9. Kerry blamed his secret service agent when he fell down, thus suggesting Kerry can't admit a human mistake, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
10. Kerry saved his campaign by using a home mortgage loan to get around campaign finance laws, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
11. Kerry consistently backed military positions that have been proven to have been wrong, such as his support of the nuclear freeze, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
12. Kerry opposed Reagan's efforts to overthrow the Sandinistas. History has proven Kerry wrong, but 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
13. Kerry could never articulate a reason he wanted to be president other than personal ego, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
14. Kerry couldn't organize his campaign at all, and was often hours late for his appearances. Despite this lack of management skill, 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
15. Kerry insulted the nations that joined the fight against Iraq, and 59 million people still voted for Kerry!
16. John Kerry had a vice presidential candidate who made millions on junk science, and 59 million people still voted for John Kerry!
17. John Kerry promised to end America's dependence on foreign oil while preventing oil drilling in Alaska, and 59 million people still voted for John Kerry!
18. John Kerry claims to have a plan to solve every problem known to mankind. He won't release the details of these plans, but 59 million people still voted for John Kerry!
Amazing, isn't it?
"I've received a few of those in my inbox over the past few weeks. My response has always been the same: "
Your "reply" was better than mine to all of the e-mails I've gotten. I just typed in "GROW UP" and hit 'reply'.
Well Professor "Evalyn" as a California taxpayer I demand that you get back to San Diego with a piece of chalk in your hand immediately. Classes started Monday.
Shamelessly stealing it :)
10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
Being a database programmer and IT Director for a medium sized company in downtown Seattle, I've thought about how you'd pull off fraud on voting machines like these.
The only way I can think of changing these votes without leaving a blatant trail on the hard drive would be to use a hardware solution: a chip inserted in the motherboard or inline with the keyboard/resistive screen which would intercept the vote and alter it based on a program resident on the chip. The chip would then feed the false vote to the database as though that were the actual vote the voter made in real time.
When the polls closed, all those chips would have to be removed.
Ideally, you'd use an inline chip because if an educated auditor opened the computer they'd want to know why there was an empty chip bed on the motherboard.
Other than that, anyone with a decent computer education and half a brain could determine whether or not votes had been altered on a computer. When you start messing with a database there's a domino effect of changes that occur all over the place: trans logs have to be altered, file access times changed, files deleted, empty drive space wiped.
You'd need a conspiracy of scores of computer professionals to pull it off.
The bottom line is, it just didn't happen.
nah I wont do that right now.....
I am pretty sure that they will create their own denial of service attack by all the DU'ers hitting the site all the time on the 6th anyway and of course, I know I will get my DuFUs....
This is where you lost me.
Up to that point I understood everything.
Ummm, so who was counting the votes in 1992 and '96?
I would guess that the people "buying" the machines wrote the specs.
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