Posted on 01/07/2005 10:58:33 AM PST by VU4G10
I hope that our government prints a good guide for Americans that want to get out before the bottom falls out
However, I believe it was printed simply to keep from having more and more illegals die each year from the risks they take in coming. I see nothing wrong with letting people know of the dangers present in making such a decision and advising them on what NOT to do (which could certainly lead to death)...in fact, one page states that "coyotes" (people, often U.S. citizens who know the land, who are payed to smuggle in immigrants) should not be trusted, because they may trick you into bringing drugs into the country (and personally, I feel coyotes are much worse than illegal immigrants).
Finally, like I've always said, you can't place TOO much blame on someone for trying to find work in another country if none is available at home. You CAN, however, place much blame on the Mexican government for doing little, if anything, to improve their own economic situation.
Hah...ok, I'm done, I know I'm getting the flame, but be gentle. :)
I'm still p*ssed at the official sanction this pamphlet seems to give to illegal invading a sovereign country.
However, the information contained may actually serve to discourage potential invaders by informing them that the streets aren't actually paved with gold up here, and they just might not be warmly received (as our president has led them to believe), and that their choice to 'jump the fence' may have fatal consequences.
BTT
keep from having more and more illegals die each year from the risks they take in coming.
1.19 million illegals were caught trying to enter the country last year, and less than 150 died from all causes...mostly car wrecks when their guides tried to outrun La Migra. That is statistically insignificant and most definitely is not the reason the pamphlet was published. Please don't delude yourself into thinking that the pamphlet is in any way humanitarian in nature.
should not be trusted, because they may trick you into bringing drugs into the country
They don't trick anyone into bringing drugs over, they pay them. How the coyotes are bad is this: they'll take your 2 grand to get you 2 miles across the border and tell you to walk north for a day and a half and you'll be in Phoenix. Then abandon you. 200 miles south of Phoenix.
you can't place TOO much blame on someone for trying to find work in another country if none is available at home.
There's work available south of the border when Mexicans take the knowledge they gain working in the US back home and start their own businesses. That isn't happening often enough, but it is happening.
Thinking, knowledgable people know that this pamphlet is all about promoting illegal immigration. It's only the protestations of the Mexican Foreign Minister and our Open Border supporting press that keep anyone from seeing the truth.
There. That wasn't too bad a flame, was it?
However, you are mistaken when saying coyotes never trick people. True, they do sometimes attempt to pay people to sneak drugs through. Most often, though, they simply tell someone to take a "package" with them and give it to someone on the other side. It's simple, really: why pay someone for something you could get done for free?
Your other point about dropping people off in the middle of nowhere, though, is very true.
I see you're from CA. That puts you on the front lines of the problem...I feel for you.
I live in Sierra Vista, AZ. This is where the dike has finally burst...BP has apprehended more illegals within 50 miles of my house than they have in all other sectors combined. I hike and hunt in the hills and flats here on the border, and the things I've seen would chill you.
As for being Mexican...so is my daughter-in-law...half Mexican and half Spanish. Many of the folks on these threads are considered to be (or are called) racists. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's lawlessness that we abhor, that and the degradation of our neighborhoods that comes with the lawlessness.
Thanks for stopping in to read this, and thanks for your honesty and insight. It's appreciated.
time for barbedwire and landmines
A booklet to fix a "broken economy"?
That's rich.
Here's your "booklet". Find all the crooked cops and politicians, take them out and shoot them.
well, then THAT'S your booklet -- i never said it would be all smiles, peace, and harmony, now did i?
Point is, everyone knows what the problem is. But not every problem has a solution. Rather than getting mixed up in Mexico's mess, I would rather build a very high and very long fence on our southern border.
"It's not quite as bad as I had anticipated. Still, it comes awfully close to being an act of war."
It is an Act of War as it is indeed a violation of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo (1848) that estalished the border. Specifically as detailed in Article V, paragraph 4:
"The boundary line established by this article shall be religiously respected by each of the two republics, and no change shall ever be made therein, except by the express and free consent of both nations, lawfully given by the General Government of each, in conformity with its own constitution."
We have the right to militarize the border under Article XVI:
"Each of the contracting parties reserves to itself the entire right to fortify whatever point within its territory it may judge proper so to fortify for its security."
And we should do so.
Friends of mine moved from NorCal a few years ago to a place literally on the border and they tell me the illegals are bad enough when they cross over - but it is the MEXICAN ARMY incursions that bother them the most.
We're all cattle - the government business is just rounding up and branding more for the mill...
I agree.
If the country of Mexico is an ally, we are in deep, you know what.
They refused to back the US in the Iraq war. The president said if you aren't with us, you're against us. What the he!! happened to that?
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