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Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground South of Guam
The Associated Press ^ | Jan 8, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/08/2005 3:19:47 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

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To: judicial meanz

You can operate that ship with 24 or so watchstanders.


101 posted on 01/08/2005 5:47:28 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: DBeers

I think we may have sailed together...were you on the 654?


102 posted on 01/08/2005 5:47:42 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: DBeers

Shut up nub...;)


103 posted on 01/08/2005 5:47:48 AM PST by chasio649
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To: judicial meanz
He grounded the USS Decatur a destroyer not a sub. He was court martialed and convicted for the incident. He switched to sub later.
104 posted on 01/08/2005 5:48:10 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Doohickey

Thanks Doohickey....good information.


105 posted on 01/08/2005 5:48:57 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Straight Vermonter
I am sure so ex-dolphins will be by shortly to give you a much better explanation.

I've been waiting for a submarine thread, because I've become curious these past two weeks....I am wondering what the effect would be on a submerged sub in the path of a tsunami; I understand they can travel at hundreds of miles per hour underwater until they approach a land mass.

106 posted on 01/08/2005 5:49:05 AM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham....the ultimate Menage a Quatro)
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To: ThanhPhero

you cant ping active sonar all day, though, that would tell everyone where you were

They would be running on the charts for bearing


107 posted on 01/08/2005 5:50:26 AM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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To: judicial meanz

656 & 619 -could know you...


108 posted on 01/08/2005 5:50:47 AM PST by DBeers
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To: judicial meanz

Can't argue with you there.


109 posted on 01/08/2005 5:51:19 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: DBeers

654, 579, and 712...tad to the 578 for a while


110 posted on 01/08/2005 5:51:41 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: ErnBatavia

They're already under water (hopefully deep). Maybe they could be lifted in their depth, who knows? But they ride out hurricanes no problem.


111 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:06 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: chasio649
Shut up nub...;)

navet god to you buddy ;)

112 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:48 AM PST by DBeers
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To: chasio649

Pardon this old Marine, but ust how does bottom sounding SONAR remain ELINT free??

Cant everyone and their brother hear it, too?


113 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:48 AM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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To: judicial meanz; Jet Jaguar
There's an off chance that "submarine runs aground" for public consumption is really "other nations sub strikes US sub" in reality. It's happened before:

A Brief History Of US/Russian submarine collisions: source (scroll down)

1961 USS Swordfish (SSN-579) is on a spy mission in Soviet waters when a Soviet sub surfaces underneath it.

196? A US sub, possibly USS Skipjack, on a spy mission in Soviet waters, collides with a destroyer. Finally made public in a New York Times article in 1975.

July 1965. USS Medregal rams a Greek freighter.

March 1966. USS Barbel rams a freighter near North Vietnam.

December 1967. USS George C. Marshall (SSBN-654) is grazed by a Russian sub.

October 9, 1968. This appears to be the historical precedent for the Kursk sinking. A Russian sub operating normally collided with an unknown sub in the Barents sea, leaving a sizable hole in the Russian sub. Russian intelligence notes the arrival of a damaged sub in a Norwegian port a few days later.

November 1969. USS Gato's sail hits the hull of a soviet sub.

March 14, 1970. USS Sturgeon bashes her sonar dome against a Russian sub's sail.

June 1970. USS Tautog is rammed by Black Lila. It is erroneously assumed at the time that Black Lila sank.

March 1971. An unnamed US sub operating 12 miles off of the Soviet coast collides with a Russian sub. Reported in the New York Times in 1975.

Mid-1971. USS Dace hits a Russian sub in the Mediterranean.

Late 1971 or early 1972. USS Puffer is trailing a Soviet sub when the Soviet sub unexpectedly dives, bumping into Puffer.

March 1974. USS Pintado rams a Soviet missile boat while on a spy mission in Soviet waters near Petropavlovsk. Reported in the San Diego Evening Tribune in 1975.

November 3rd, 1974. USS James Madison hits an unknown Russian Victor class attack sub in the North Sea. Reported by columnist Jack Anderson.

1981. HMS Sceptre is trailing a Russian sub and rear-ends it.

October 1986. USS Augusta, while testing a new computer sonar system to make detecting enemy subs easier, rams a Soviet sub. The Augusta claims they rammed a Delta class. Others report it was a Yankee missile boat that subsequently sank.

December 24, 1986. HMS Splendid and a Soviet sub were trying to dodge out of each other's way when they collided. HMS Splendid's towed sonar array became tangled in the other sub and was lost.

February 11, 1992. USS Baton Rouge hits a Soviet sub near Murmansk. For the first time, and in response to Yeltsin's demands, the US Navy publicly acknowledges the collision.

March 20, 1993. USS Grayling with a Russian sub in the Barent's Sea.

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Considering that Guam has become a hotspot for Chinese sub activity lately, it could happen.

114 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:49 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Larry Lucido; submarinerswife
"Husband always says: It ain't gay if its underway"
I'll bet submariners can come up with all kinds of good lines at the right time; "Fire the torpedoes" being just one that comes to mind.

(please, no seamen jokes)

115 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:55 AM PST by martin_fierro (</pith>)
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To: RaceBannon

yes you can.


116 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:57 AM PST by chasio649
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To: judicial meanz

Husband was on 6377, 769 & 743


117 posted on 01/08/2005 5:53:34 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: judicial meanz

With some of the missions we did, this topic actually came up during torpedo room bull sessions.


118 posted on 01/08/2005 5:54:14 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: RaceBannon

I'd have to kill you after i told you ;)


119 posted on 01/08/2005 5:54:38 AM PST by chasio649
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To: judicial meanz

You were on the 712? I was on the 712. 96-97.


120 posted on 01/08/2005 5:54:47 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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