"This is going on your
permanent record!"
You run aground, you're fired.
Period.
I saw it happen often in Vietnam with LST's.
"You run aground, you're fired. Period"
Apparently some guy ran aground twice before he was fired.
This captain might get fired. I'll even go so far as to say he probably will. But lets wait for the judge show up before we shoot him.
To make such a statement you must not know anything about Halsey's career.
"You run aground, you're fired.
Period.
I saw it happen often in Vietnam with LST's."
I am not a Navy man either, but I read about them last night. Indpendent of the issue of the submarine, why would a skipper get fired for grounding an LST (Landing Ship, Tank), much less often? I thought they were designed to be grounded, and beach grounding was one of the purposes for which they were used.
Even if a skipper unitentionally touched bottom with one, if he got off unaided and without damage (which should not be that difficult normally) would that lead to anything? Knowing the friends that I had in the Navy during Vietnam, I would have thought that a "creative" explanation for the incident would have been developed. Seems to me that it would have had to have been particularly egregious with significant damage to the ship.
Or is the Vietnam LST not a landing ship?
uhhhhhh excuse my ignorance . . . but
aren't LST's DESIGNED to run aground?
When is it kosher and when is it not kosher?
This Captain is so fired.
You are so right.
I was on Swift Boats, (was there an entire year...no multiple Purple Hearts) and we ran aground returning to base from patrol. As I reall it was our first patrol without a trainer and wouldn't you know it, we took the wrong passage between two islands and stuck hard in sand. The worst thing was the Coast Guard had to pull us off.
The only damage was we bent one of the two shafts, but you would have thought we ran a carrier into the rocks and it sunk with all hands. The crew spent a week in Saigon being grilled and giving depositions. The OIC was not relieved of command, but was repremanded and was not allowed to re-up after his tour.
Yep, the US Navy does not look kindly upon its skippers who touch bottom; bottoms either.
I am a Navyman too.
LSTs are designed to run aground.
That said, the captain of the SF career is toast.
You got that wrong. I've ridden both LSTs and SSN's (And SSBN's).
The LST (Landing Ship Tank) is the only ship in the Navy that's designed to run aground. If you do run anything else aground though, you better sharpen up your resume.
If the sub was submerged when she went aground, the easiest solution is to blow the main ballest tanks and come to the surface.