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Christians Flee Genocide As Fear Sweeps Iraq
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-8-2004 | Jack Fairweather

Posted on 01/08/2005 4:12:06 PM PST by blam

Christians flee genocide as fear sweeps Iraq

By Jack Fairweather at St Matthew's Monastery near Mosul
(Filed: 08/01/2005)

One of the most ancient monasteries in the world, St Matthew's, stands on a barren mountainside in northern Iraq, its last inhabitant a crusty old Syrian Orthodox priest. Nestled between sandstone crags with views of the hills around ancient Nineveh, now called Mosul, it looks like the final redoubt of the Christian world.

Seven thousand monks used to worship here; now there is just one, Father Ada Qadr al-Kars.

St Matthew's Syrian Orthodox Monastery was founded in the fourth century AD

This thinning of the ranks has taken centuries, he said, but in the valleys Iraq's Christian community, targeted with especial ferocity by Islamic extremists for the past year, is disappearing rapidly.

Churches have been bombed, priests kidnapped and Christian neighbourhoods subjected to random shootings, the terrorists' revenge for the community's shared religion with the "Christian" invaders.

According to Church leaders, some 300,000 Christians - roughly a quarter of the population - have fled their homes since the US-led invasion.

It is too early to speak of a humanitarian crisis, with many from the community, one of Iraq's more affluent, able to leave the country in civilised fashion or find shelter in the Kurdish-controlled north. But in the minds of Church leaders there is little doubt as to the nature of the exodus.

"It's genocide. You can see it with your own eyes," said Bishop Putres Harbori, head of the Christian community in Dohuk, near the Turkish border, where 350 families have found sanctuary.

Many fear that Iraq's ancient Christian community is leaving for ever, some nostalgic for better times under Saddam Hussein. Life was good when the Ba'athists were in charge, said Paula Sliwa, 71, one of 60,000 Christians to flee Mosul in recent months.

He belongs to the Assyrian Church, one of several sects in the city tracing their history to Job preaching to the ungodly. He, his wife and five children used to live with 100 other families near the Shaleeka Cunta church on the western bank of the Euphrates.

Iraq's small Christian community has a history of collaboration with the powers-that-be in Baghdad, first with the British in the 1920s, then with Saddam's regime, which boasted the Christian Tariq Aziz as one of its most powerful leaders. Christians often worked in the luxury business, selling alcohol and running beauty parlours.

"I have a large house and two cars," said Mr Sliwa, formerly a well paid government official. "We never had any trouble." But the Christian community in Mosul has been shaken by a wave of vicious attacks, including five car bombs detonated outside churches, killing more than 20, in one month.

Anti-Christian graffiti was daubed on church walls and inflammatory CDs sold in the market. Regular gun attacks began in Christian areas of the city, with several priests kidnapped and told that, as Christians, they were on the side of the American invaders.

"We were used to living in hell," said Mr Sliwa. Then a neighbour told him that his two sons had been killed by the latest attack. "My son's car was 300 metres away. They were slumped in their seats, covered in blood," he said. "The terrorists had shot at any car in the neighbourhood, knowing they would kill Christians."

Mr Sliwa and the rest of his family fled to Angkawr, one of a number of Christian communities in the Kurdish-protected north. That evening his house in Mosul was broken into and ransacked.

Stories like his are common in Angkawr, where 150 families shelter from the oppression and fear that forced them to flee homes in Mosul, Baghdad and Basra.

They say a new breed of al-Qa'eda-inspired terrorists, rather than the former Ba'athists, are behind the attacks. Iraqi police are powerless to protect the community, say families, and US forces rarely intervene, not wanting to be seen to be siding with Christians and thereby exposing the troops to more violence.

For their part, Christian leaders in Iraq oscillate between calling the attacks "ethnic cleansing" and stressing that Christians are suffering along with others in Iraq.

Angkawr, a town of 35,000 people, is defended by guards and concrete barriers. Residents, along with the refugees, want to leave the country as fast as possible, with Syria, Jordan, Europe and America the popular destinations.

Saed Alexis, a local business leader, said: "There is not a person who wouldn't leave Iraq if they could. In five years there will be no one left."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anticatholic; antichristian; catholiclist; chaldean; chaldeanchurch; christians; crusades; fear; flee; genocide; iraq; iraqichristians; islam; jihad; mosul; muslim; nineveh; sweeps; terrorists

1 posted on 01/08/2005 4:12:06 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Funny how they werent fleeing just a week ago.....

and they certianly ARE NOT fleeing in Baghdad....


2 posted on 01/08/2005 4:15:03 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: blam

The Telegraph is a funny paper. Sometimes they come up with some great articles and scoops, but other times they come up with bizarre articles that seem completely made up on the spot (not saying this is one of them, just making an observation). Anyone else notice this? It's completely hit and miss.


3 posted on 01/08/2005 4:31:04 PM PST by Trippin
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To: MikeinIraq
Just as there are some "terrorists" in Iraq that want to prevent elections, prevent Success, prevent any accomplisments attributed to Bush while there are MANY MANY more Iraqis that want freedom and a stable Iraq...

In the same vein, there are "terrorist media" in the west that want to derail elections, want to prevent Success, and prevent any accomplishments attributed to Bush, while there are at least some in the western media that want a stable and free Iraq, as well as many true freedom lovers in the West.

4 posted on 01/08/2005 4:37:08 PM PST by C210N
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To: blam
Many fear that Iraq's ancient Christian community is leaving for ever, some nostalgic for better times under Saddam Hussein.

This type of editorializing baloney is why NOTHING written by the Telegraph is believable.

5 posted on 01/08/2005 4:37:35 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: MikeinIraq

I read about this in the WSJ months ago. Both the WSJ and the Telegraph are very supportive of the Iraq war.

I fear that this persecution is all too true.


6 posted on 01/08/2005 4:40:17 PM PST by dervish (Europe can go to Islam)
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To: blam; All

Gee, I thought there were no Christians in Iraq... that's why there was a big hubbub about bringing the Gospel there....


7 posted on 01/08/2005 4:41:15 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: Trippin

If this story is true, the US should offer to evacuate any Christians who want to leave and let them into the US. Of course I don't guess it would be practical to try and determine who was Christian - could turn into an easy way for terrorists to get inside. But if it is true, it saddens me to think our troops don't feel they can do anything for fear of inciting more hatred.


8 posted on 01/08/2005 4:43:36 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: blam
"Angkawr, a town of 35,000 people, is defended by guards and concrete barriers. Residents, along with the refugees, want to leave the country as fast as possible, with Syria, Jordan, Europe and America the popular destinations."

Europe? Why are they going to Europe? It's just a matter of time before the genocide begins there also.


Europe's Best Friends

9 posted on 01/08/2005 4:52:32 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: MikeinIraq; dervish
40-Thousand Christains Flee Iraq, Official Says (August 2004)

"BAGHDAD / NAJAF (ANS) -- Tens of thousands of Christians have fled Iraq where fierce battles raged Tuesday August 17, between American forces and the Mahdi Army militia of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, a government official confirmed. (Pictured: From left, President Ghazi al-Yawer, PM Iyad Allawi, Deputy PM Barham Saleh, Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, former member of the governing council. Source: Voice of America). "

10 posted on 01/08/2005 4:53:24 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Just let me tell you guys this. I didnt see it. I was there ok?

I don't tend to trust Human things without seeing it myself....especially in Iraq....


11 posted on 01/08/2005 5:21:43 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: 1stFreedom
Gee, I thought there were no Christians in Iraq... that's why there was a big hubbub about bringing the Gospel there....
One problem since the start has been our ignorance of Iraq. Yes, there are Christians there, and have been since the first century AD. Saddam Hussain was a terrible dictator, but he was an "equal opportunity" dictator... if anything, he had an "affirmative action" program for Christians. Saddam maintained power mostly by keeping the various tribal and religious factions out of government... which let the Christians thrive in that society. Why do you think the Pope was particularly upset with our excuses for this invasion? The man's job is to defend his people, after all... and a lot of Catholics (including Nestorian, Assyrian and Maronite Catholics), as well as other Christians looked to the Pope as the only support they'd have without Saddam. If we were going after dictators who supress religion, we'd be going after Saudi Arabia and China, not Iraq.
12 posted on 01/08/2005 5:47:42 PM PST by rpgdfmx
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To: Destro; NYer; Salvation

I knew this was going to happen.


13 posted on 01/08/2005 6:07:49 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 147,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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To: rpgdfmx

More "class stuggle" stuff from the UK scandal mongers. These gossipy Brits love a juicy pot boiler.
Why bother commenting on this smelly mess?


14 posted on 01/08/2005 6:11:03 PM PST by CBart95
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To: blam

Good- give all the Christians time to get out, then send ONE plane.


15 posted on 01/08/2005 6:15:38 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: rpgdfmx
Saddam Hussein was a terrible dictator, but he was an "equal opportunity" dictator... if anything, he had an "affirmative action" program for Christians. Saddam maintained power mostly by keeping the various tribal and religious factions out of government... which let the Christians thrive in that society.

Possibly for reasons similar to why Medieval nobles would put Jews into many court positions: you don't want to hand power over to anybody who could have ambitions for the top job. A Christian COULD NOT become ruler of a Muslim country, so they would not be a worry to Saddam

16 posted on 01/08/2005 6:18:26 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: blam
"...a history of collaboration with the powers-that-be in Baghdad, first with the British in the 1920s, then with Saddam's regime...often worked in the luxury business, selling alcohol and running beauty parlours...'I have a large house and two cars', said Mr Sliwa..."

Somehow, unless it IS the islamo-fascists targeting non-islamo-fascists (which I doubt), I don't think this is a religious thing.

How's about a collaboration thing?

Or a manufactured "news" thing?

17 posted on 01/08/2005 6:18:52 PM PST by norton
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To: blam
I just spoke with a friend on Paltalk whose wife is Iraqi. He says this is happening alot in Iraq. His words:

: yes,,this is happening,,
: many have already left or been killed
: the christain businesses are hit regulary
: yes,,this is true,,happenin all over,,but,,is not the general populations are agree with it,,it is the islamic radical

Just thought I'd pass this along.
18 posted on 01/08/2005 6:28:47 PM PST by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr...The man on my POW bracelet)
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To: 1stFreedom; Coleus; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Gee, I thought there were no Christians in Iraq... that's why there was a big hubbub about bringing the Gospel there....

Out of "Ur of the Chaldees" he came, at the command of God, and with his family and flocks he wandered into the Land of Canaan. We call him Abraham, father of nations, for it is he who begot two of the nations of the Middle East, namely the Israelites, later called Jews, and the Ishmaelites, also called Arabs.

In the first century AD St. Thomas the Apostle brought the Gospel of Christ to Mesopotamia. He was assisted by St. Addai who preached from 37 to 65 AD. After the latter's martyrdom, his work was carried on by his disciples, St. Aggai (65 - 87 AD) and St. Mari (88-121 AD). The Church of the East, also called the East Syriac Church, because it lay east of the Roman Empire, grew rapidly in the following centuries, spreading the faith to Persia, China and India. The competition between the Byzantine Empire and Persia caused the Church of the East to sever its ties to the Patriarchate of Antioch in 424 AD. At that time the Nestorian heresy (1) was raging throughout the Middle East. The Church of the East eventually succumbed to this heresy in large part due to its aversion to the influence of the Church of Constantinople. In rejecting the orthodox resolutions of the Council of Ephesus in 431, the Church of the East separated itself from the Universal Church and was thereafter known as the Nestorian Church.

In 634 Arabs bearing the religion of Muhammad appeared in Mesopotamia and brought the entire region under the heel of Islam where it remains today. In the early centuries of Islamic rule, the Church of the East continued to prosper. Thereafter, under growing Islamic persecution and repression the Church declined. In the 16th century portions of the Church of the East sought relief by establishing relations with the Church of Rome. Thereafter, those Christians in union with Rome were known as Chaldeans whereas the remaining Christians were called Assyrians.

The Christian minorities in Iraq today are among the oldest in Christendom. They make up about 6% of the population numbering fewer than one million out of a population of 17 million.


CHALDEAN CHURCH AL TAHERA IN MOSUL
Photo taken early 2004

This church was blown up by Muslims, early in December.

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


19 posted on 01/08/2005 7:29:06 PM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: Earthdweller
It's just a matter of time before it begins there.

Western Europe had it's chance to stand up against militant islam in Kosovo, instead the west aligned itself with militant islamic terrorists, and bombed Christians.

Western Europe is reaping what is has sown.

20 posted on 01/08/2005 7:36:55 PM PST by gitmogrunt (undecorated and proud. God Bless our troops and their Families.)
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To: rpgdfmx

This tragedy was, alas, eminently predictable. "Democracy" in the Mideast means Islamic rule.


21 posted on 01/08/2005 7:56:04 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: blam

Wow. I'm impressed by your links tragic as they are. The article I read confirmed the huge exodus by Christians, out of fear, from Iraq. They are subject to threats and violence that is clearly religiously motivated.

Though I very much support the war in Iraq, I am very afraid of whether the new government will be religiously tolerant.

If there is a non-Islamic constitution guaranteeing religious freedom and equality, there is hope that these kinds of acts will be controlled by the government once they are able to control the violence.


22 posted on 01/08/2005 8:32:24 PM PST by dervish (Europe can go to Islam)
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To: NYer; Askel5; Romulus; sandyeggo; Pyro7480

Bump for Post No. 19


23 posted on 01/08/2005 8:52:35 PM PST by Siobhan (St Thomas Apostle, pray for us.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Tarik Aziz, Saddam's foreign minister, is a Christian in a top job. I think what we all overlooked was that Saddam was a SECULAR dictator who modelled himself on Stalin. This may start a fecal tsunami, but the Osama-Saddam links never were credible to me for that reason. Many countries have had similar dictators -- who focused on modernization at the expense of ethnic and religious loyalties -- who are today seen as unfortunate, but necessary, players in their country's history: Ataturk in Turkey, Porfirio Diaz in Mexico, Stalin, etc.

I'm sorry to say it looks as if we went into this war without even looking up Iraq in an encyclopedia.


25 posted on 01/08/2005 11:23:35 PM PST by rpgdfmx
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To: blam
ancient Nineveh, now called Mosul

Heck I can't blame them for high-tailing it for at least the time being.

Even the Almighty couldn't persuade Jonah to go to Nineveh. Well, at least not
initially!
26 posted on 01/08/2005 11:29:02 PM PST by VOA
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To: blam

Let them come here. We need more Christians and fewer Muslims.


27 posted on 01/08/2005 11:30:33 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: moonpie57; MikeinIraq; NYer

Moonpie, it was happening before as well. Don't let anyone kid you.
We are near Sterling Heights, MI, the Chaldean capital of the state (which as you know is Arab Central). My daughter attended school with 5 Chaldean families and we had another in our Daisy troop. Seriously, every one of them was thrilled with the falling of Saddam. Every one of the mother's I talked to had family members missing.

They may be talking to a group of people that had it easy under Saddam but not all Christians did.


28 posted on 01/09/2005 5:27:32 AM PST by netmilsmom (God send you a Blessed 2005!)
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To: MikeinIraq

Sadly, USA are doing the same horror in Iraq they did in Iran long time ago: help the islamists take power.

So, of course, the Christians of Iraq have to flee before it's too late.They know what tomorrow will look like..


29 posted on 01/09/2005 1:04:25 PM PST by thierrya
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To: thierrya

I dont think we are going to let the islamists take over. I think our goal is for a government similar to that of Qatar or Kuwait.


30 posted on 01/09/2005 1:11:18 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq

I wish you're right..

Regards


31 posted on 01/09/2005 1:37:56 PM PST by thierrya
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To: MikeinIraq
I think our goal is for a government similar to that of Qatar or Kuwait.

I hope our goals are better than that. Those countries are Kingdoms. I thought we were shooting for representational government with constitutional protections.

Also religious freedom in Kuwait is minimal.

The law prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam, although this law is not enforced rigidly. Informal religious instruction occurs inside private homes and on church compounds without government interference; however, there were reports that government inspectors from the Awqaf Ministry periodically visit public and private schools outside of church compounds to ensure that religious teaching other than Islam does not takes place. The Roman Catholic Church has requested that Catholic students be allowed to study the catechism separately during the period in which Muslim students receive mandatory instruction in Islam. During the period covered by this report, the Government still had not responded to the request.

also

Although there is a small community of Christian citizens, a law passed in 1980 prohibits the naturalization of non-Muslims; however, citizens who were Christians before 1980 (and children born to families of such citizens since that date) are allowed to transmit their citizenship to their children.

Religious Freedom in Kuwait

Further women are treated like third class citizens (one male witness equals three women) but that may at last be changing for the better since women have finally been granted the vote. welcome to the 21st Century.

Treatment of Israel is a whole other matter. Suffice it to say that a reporter from the Jerusalem Post who wanted to cover the Iraq war as an embed had to be snuck into Kuwait through US Press credentials. Kuwait forbade Israeli reporters from coming into the country.

32 posted on 01/09/2005 2:48:31 PM PST by dervish (Europe can go to Islam)
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